IChat and msn

Is apple ever going to come out with a version of iChat(and mail) that is compatible with hotmail and msn messenger?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

I am not a product manager in Apple nor in MS, so I can't tell them which protocols to implement nevertheless they wont listen to me (alone). Honestly I don't even mind whether they should implement it in iChat or in another software, but the fact are that:
1) Most web camera's (90% or 99%) are not supporting Mac.
2) Skype has video support for windows but not for Mac.
3) MSN on Mac has no video support.
4) And even Apple, don't take care of us by giving us something that does work cross platform.
So at the end of the day whether this is XMPP/Jabber or any other protocol, Mac users are getting nothing useful to use for proper video chats.
BTW according to latest market researches MSN is leading with over 60% worldwide market share, 70-90% in Europe, Latin America and Asia, and neck to neck with AOL in the US.
Hey guess what..(?) 99.9999% of the users around
the
world use Windows.
It's probably closer to 90% (~3% Mac, ~5% Linux,
leaving about 2% other).
Why not give the 0.00001% of us
loyal to Mac a proper way to connect to our
families
and friends, who use MSN for video chats???
I suspect it's because Apple is a US company. In the
US AIM rules, in Europe it's MSN. In Asia i've heard
that ICQ is still popular (but ICQ and AIM use the
same protocol now anyway).
Frankly i don't want Apple to add MSN capabilities to
iChat, and i'd rather they depreciate the AIM
capabilities in favour of more work on XMPP/Jabber.
If you want interconnectivity i suggest you email
Microsoft (,AOL and Yahoo) and ask them why they
aren't supporting the IETF standard for IM, which is
XMPP.

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