IChat audio chat downloads how many MB?

Hi,
Just like how when we visit a web page, whenever we do a video chat, there is data downloaded (MB downloaded) right?
However, if I da an audio chat via iChat with an AIM user, in different countris, is there 'data' downloaded?
I kinda need to know this as the hall I'll be staying in charges the internet per MB downloaded.
THANKEW!

During a Chat open the Connection Doctor.
This will tell you the Bit rate per second.
IF you have System Preferences > Quicktime > Streaming set to the recommended 1.5Mbps this is the max that iChat could achieve.
Having said that I have never seen it achieve over 1Mbps.
It is a question of what is the max download you can have and what do you achieve on average and doing the math.
I chat most days and on some days to certain Buddies for Up to two hours
Only once in four years have I exceeded 15Gb download per month but also required my son to play On-line games with his X-Box 360
We have two Macs, two 360's, 4 PCs of various sorts that spend different amounts of time On-line.
That is doing Video chats.
Audio only chats come in at about 30kbps as a max each chat.
Screen Sharing seems to be just under 50kbps.
10:54 PM Thursday; June 26, 2008

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How much bandwidth does iChat audio chat use?

I have a friend who has a broadband connection via a 3G/Edge cell phone connection in Europe. She has to pay for bandwidth in chunks of 500mb. Anyone have any idea how much bandwidth audio chat uses on an hourly basis.

It's complicated by how much data you can send in Video with Audio or Audio only or text chat and by what rate then can accept it.
iChat normally sends Audio chats at about 25kbps up to about 48kbps
After that is a question of ding the math.
This will give the rate that is th Max. What you will not know is how much of that is actually data measured as Download over the service.
10:38 PM Thursday; August 14, 2008

Ichat audio chat not working

every time i want to audio chat with a friend it starts connecting then i wait for about 30seconds then it says that it cant connect because the guy im talking with says that he acsepted my invite but ichat said he didnt please help

Hi,
Welcome to the  Discussions
Presumably the Pop up Log (Use the Reveal Triangle "Details" on th e left) said it was an Error 8 issue ?
It would help to know of the Buddy is on AIM for PCs, a different iChat version.
If you have the Mac Firewall ON (System Preferences > Security > Firewall) then you have to go to the Advanced Tab and set "Allow Signed Apps" and have iChat in the List. Stealth needs to be Off as well.
This will allow iChat through the firewall.
You also have to get it through your Router (Or routing modem).
This requires that you open or allow the ports that iChat uses.
If you want to use the iChat Screen Sharing then set your devices to use UPnP (Universal Plug and Play) which will allow the app to tell the router which ports to open.
Not all devices have UPnP and you may need to use either Port Forwarding or Port Triggering (depending how many computers you have to use iChat over the same connection).
You may also need to turn Off Ping Blocking and any Intrusion Protection (Denial of Service in particular)
The ports are:-
||iChat Ports||TCP||UDP||
|AIM|5190|5190|
|A/V|none|5678, 16393-16402|
|Bonjour|5298|5297, 5298, 5353|
|Jabber|5220,5222, 5223|none|
Note this is the iChat 4 and 5 Range
Add port 5060 UDP for iChat 2 and 3 and extend the group of 10 to 16384-16403 (20 ports)
iChat 4 and 5 also uses an undeclared Random port to do the Screen Sharing part and works if you can and do use UPnP (Or Port Mapping Protocol) to open ports in your routing device.
If you have Error 20, 21 or 22 showing in the first paragraph of the Log then you have a different problem.
Of course similar things ought to be done at the Buddies end.
5:01 PM Sunday; June 6, 2010
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

IChat Audio Chat doesn't work

My friend is trying to do a voice connection with me on AIM, he has a microphone and we can do a voice connection if we are doing video connection, we can hear each other, but its not letting me. How do I fix this?

metroid9824
First, does your friend have a mac or a Windows machine?
Mac-PC audio-only connections are not possible if the PC user has the AIM application, only as part of a video chat.
If he has a PC, then Trillian supports audio-only.
If he is a mac user, what modem and/or router do you both have, what connection speeds, etc?
Dave

App Store downloads - how many times does one need to restart download??

I am having a bit of an issue with AppStore, I purchased Rome Total War, granted a whopping 4 Gig download, however Apples infrastructure seems to be a bit on the weak side as the connection gets dropped on the server side.
Anyone else seeing that too? My DSL is fine otherwise, but it is very annoying to see that I can not get to the product I purchased for more than 24 hours now... I did expect a far better user experience from this.
Thanks,
Bernd

Yes I have apps installed on the SD card. Shifting them to the internal memory is not really an option (would leave very little free space over there which would then cause other problems). Besides, if the phone allows you to install the apps on the card, shouldn't they work from there? Yes, they should.
Without the card, there will be no custom apps and the phone would be almost useless (will turn into a basic device used to make calls and send text). To me, this is not an option. Also, I don't see how it would solve the problem automagically after some time.
The card doesn't seem to be faulty. I tried to connect the phone without the card inserted and it got connected alright for two times but the USB mode chooser froze the third time, just the same as with the card inserted. So a new card is probably not going to solve the problem.
Must be something strange happening here. Maybe it's due to the apps installed on the card rather than the internal memory, but I just cannot install all those apps within that limited space.
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Audio chat works on one machine, but not on the other!

First up, my setup:
Comcast Cable Modem -> Linksys Router -> iMac (Core2Duo), PowerBook (G4), Vonage
Both systems running OS X 10.4.10. Both systems are connected through their Airport cards (ethernet cables are pulled) to the router.
To better debug the problem I turned the Firewall and LittleSnitch off on both systems.
The router's firewall is turned off as well.
Port forwarding is also checked, and the PowerBook is not even listed having any ports forwarded at all (that's the one iChat audio chat works).
There must be something blocking the iMac... but I can't seem to figure it out. Any help greatly appreciated!
Here the error message when trying to start a audio chat on the iMac:
Date/Time: 2007-10-03 21:53:13.057 -0700
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R2232)
Report Version: 4
iChat Connection Log:
AVChat started with ID 996873621.
blafusel13: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
0x1763daf0: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
0x1763daf0: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
blafusel13: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
0x1763daf0: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -22
blafusel13: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -22
Video Conference Error Report:
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[VCBANDWIDTH_DETECTIONFAILURE]
[20]
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From: "blafusel13" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=950727899
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To: "u0" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=999461336
From: "blafusel13" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=950727899
Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Max-Forwards: 70
To: "blafusel13" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=950727899
From: "u0" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=999461336
Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE
Contact: <sip:[email protected]>
Event: conference
Expires: 3600
User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
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To: "u0" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=999461336
From: "blafusel13" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=950727899
Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
CSeq: 1 INVITE
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User-Agent: Viceroy 1.2
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Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Content-Length: 0
Video Conference Support Report:
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Max-Forwards: 70
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From: "blafusel13" <sip:[email protected]>;tag=950727899
Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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Max-Forwards: 70
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Call-ID: 90351360-7235-11dc-9ae6-fc6fa15013c4@lip
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[2]

well, i updated the router (latest firmware is from april 2006!). rebooted the modem, then the router, restarted ichat. same problem unfortunately. however i found some geeky cool-aid on macosxhints. a shell script which configures the router to enable dmz, and another one to disable dmz. with a little shell script one should be able to enable dmz, start ichat. and upon quitting ichat disable dmz. not the best solution, but this will help me out...
thanks to tony for his help! (we should send him a fruit basket or something 8)
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20051015142349372

How do i do an audio chat with Googletalk users on iChat?

I just got Tiger OS with the new iChat and I was expecting to be able to do an audio chat with my friends who have Googletalk on their PCs. Unfortunately, the audio chat option is greyed out next to all of their names on my buddy list and I can only type chat with them. How do I fix this?
FYI, I already looked at some of the other posts and at the googletalk website, and I am already using a jabber account with the server as talk.google.com, my gmail ID, and the port set at 5223 as directed. My computer does have a built in microphone. What am i missing?

Hi
This page still says nothing about Audio chats
http://www.google.com/talk/otherclients.html
11:46 PM Monday; May 1, 2006

Audio chat with iChat (Mac) and Trillian (PC) not working

I use iChat on my Mac (actually, we have tried two different ones with the same results) and the person I want to have an audio chat with is using Trillian Basic (just downloaded) for his PC. We tried using the AIM client on his PC and that didn't work... I looked through the forums and several suggested using Trillian.
We are both able to text chat with each other, but when I try to initiate an audio chat, it tells me almost immediately that the other user has declined my invitation. He never gets an alert. Basically the same thing happens the other way as well.
Any ideas? Is there a setting on the PC that needs to be set for this to work? I can iChat with Audio to other iChat users from my Mac(s), so I am thinking that the PC is the problem.
Thanks!
\frank

Frank
I use iChat to videochat with my sons, who use Trillian on the PC. It's not that easy to set up, opening ports, enabling Trillian through the XP firewall, etc.
You might fare better with Skype. Download from:
Mac version
PC version
If you do want to persist with Trillian (and the results are much better once you've got it set up), try this tutorial:
http://www.mvldesign.com/videoconferencetutorial.html
or this:
http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/
Let us know how you get on.
Dave
PS You can't do audio-only chats between iChat and AIM.

IChat audio not working during video chats

For the last month or so I have been unable to get normal audio connections during iChat video chats.
The person on the other end can hear me, but the audio I hear from them pops in and out and frequently seems muted. I thought it was their computer at first, but now the problem seems to be happening to me chatting with different people that are on different computers. It's also not an internet problem at my home, because the problem occurs consistently when I am at different locations, in different cities.
It's not my mute button, and I've checked my sound preferences in system preferences and everything looks okay. This seems to be associated with a system software upgrade and I'd love to know how to fix it. Running OS 10.6.4 on a MacBook Pro 17".
I read some of the other discussions on this topic and couldn't find a solution, or anything I could easily understand how to fix.
Thanks for any help!

Hi,
iChat 5 uses your whole Internet speed.
This is different to iChat 4 and Earlier that was capped by what was set in System Preferences > Quicktime > Streaming (Also not there in Snow Leopard).
If you and your Buddy are on vastly different Internet speed iChat will try to match the lowest Upload speed at both end.
After that Buffering tries to smooth out the natural variances in Connection speed you have.
This is where the issue mostly lies.
iChat has always tended to drop Audio before any picture issue show up.
As the Max setting in Quicktime was 1.5Mbps a 5% or even 10% variance was handled by iChat.
However in iChat 5 you may be on a 20Mbs+ service both Up and down and 5% of this is more than can be handled by the iChat Buffering.
What you can do is Limit iChat in the iChat Menu > Preferences > Video/Audio section > Bandwidth Limit.
Set it to 500kbps as a start.
Get your Buddy to do the same no matter what version they have.
If this is successful then try the 1Mb setting.
You can change during a chat.
If you have the Connection Doctor Open (Video Menu) you can watch the Bit rates change as the Buffering smooths this out.
Get you Buddy to Increase his Bandwidth Limit once the Bit rate has smoothed out.
Essentially repeat for each increase until you find what speed you can manage predictably and works with the most amount of Buddies.
NOTES:
Don't try below 200kbps. The real world lower Limit is 100kbps and you need some for any variances if someone only has 128kbps upload.
384Kbps is the lower limit for a 4 way Video chat with you as Host, so 500kbps is more than enough. You will only see figures in the Connection Doctor above this if both ends are on a very fast service. (Higher speeds as Host does stop 3rd and 4th Buddies causing a quality drop off).
Things that can impinge on your Connection Speed are other computers such as one doing a Download of something. You are left with a smaller Portion (Bandwidth).
Other apps also use some Bandwidth which is why iChat refers to the control as Bandwidth Limit - allowing enough for other apps.
11:44 PM Saturday; September 11, 2010
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"

Update to kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?

kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
(To Replace http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406147 if Accepted. )
How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? iChat FAQ 3 (Updated 7/12/2008)
Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
A Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3 or Leopard and iChat 4
A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
(hosting Multiple person Mac to Mac AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link. AIM (the Site) now call this version Classic and it cannot be Installed On Vista
Note: there is also Trillian which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic version just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
Note: It has been noted that this file is now apparently included in Windows XP after Service Pack 2 and above.
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning at Message 570)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to chat One Way but have sound will be both ways.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the pargraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
No Camera and No Mic will cause iChat to End the chat with "No Data Received for 10 Secs"
Summary
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) the other.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here about AIM 5.5 but is transferable.
And Also here
My Web Pages particularly all of Page 12: What if your Girlfriend Lives a Long Way Away ? have more information.
I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.
4:24 PM Sunday; December 7, 2008

kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
(To Replace http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406147 if Accepted. )
How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? iChat FAQ 3 (Updated 7/12/2008)
Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
A Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3 or Leopard and iChat 4
A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
(hosting Multiple person Mac to Mac AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link. AIM (the Site) now call this version Classic and it cannot be Installed On Vista
Note: there is also Trillian which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic version just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
Note: It has been noted that this file is now just another link to the Standalone application. This might be an error by AIM or a newer version that includes the file.
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning at Message 570)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to chat One Way but have sound will be both ways.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the pargraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
No Camera and No Mic will cause iChat to End the chat with "No Data Received for 10 Secs"
Summary
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) the other.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here about AIM 5.5 but is transferable.
And Also here
My Web Pages particularly all of Page 12: What if your Girlfriend Lives a Long Way Away ? have more information.
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9:19 PM Friday; December 12, 2008

Kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?

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How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? iChat FAQ 3 (Updated 3/4/2009)
Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
See bottom section on AIM 6.5 and 6.8 on XP and Vista.
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or receiving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ability to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a recipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
A Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3 or Leopard and iChat 4
A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
(hosting Multiple person Mac to Mac AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link. AIM (the Site) now call this version Classic and it cannot be Installed On Vista
Note: there is also Trillian which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic version just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this.
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end works better)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning at Message 570)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to video chat One Way but sound will be both ways.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the paragraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
No Camera and No Mic will cause iChat to End the chat with "No Data Received for 10 Secs"
Summary
PC end gets AIM 5.9 or Trillian Pro.
The PC end allows the app through the XP Firewall.
AIM 5.9 needs "Tuning" to Camera and Mic.
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) One-Way.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here about AIM 5.5 but is transferable to AIM 5.9.
And Also here
My Web Pages particularly all of Page 12: What if your Girlfriend Lives a Long Way Away ? have more information.
<hr>
AIM 6.5 and 6.8 On Vista and XP
AIM 5.9 or earlier can not be installed on Vista.
AIM 6.5 and 6.8 use a new video codec with a description of "Real Time IM"
AIM have an FAQ page about this
Below the pics is this quote
What do I need to use Real-Time IM?
You and your buddy need to be using AIM® 6.8 or higher to use Real-Time IM. Unfortunately, Real-Time IM does not yet work with older AIM clients, iChat®, or AIM® for Mac®.
See items 5 through 13 on this page for alternatives including Web Browser based ones.
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This is the 2nd version of this tip. It was submitted on Saturday; April 4, 2009, 9:52 PM by Ralph Jonhs (UK).
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This is the one I have been wating for
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406152
kichat: Look and sound great in iChat!
Ian's First FAQ
Also New Today
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121775
kichat: FAQ 2 - How to get my router to work with iChat?
And
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121665
kichat: FAQ 1 - What do I need to start in iChat ?
11:20 PM Thursday; March 16, 2006

How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?: FAQ 3

How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? (Updated 24/11/05) iChat FAQ 3
Applies to iChat 3.x and iChat 2.x
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
1 Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3
A DSL (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM or .Mac.com account name.
(hosting Multiple person AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link.
Note: there is also Trillian Which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the file from item 2 Here
Note: It has been noted that this file is now just another link to the Standalone application. This might be an error by AIM or a newer version that includes the file.
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Nescape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall.
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then, Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to chat One Way but have sound returned to you.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the pargraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
Summary
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) the other.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here
My Web Pages
Happy Chatting.
Ralph

Hi Ralph,
Just a type, you misspelled Netscape...
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Nescape count as well)

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Hi,
iChat uses the same protocols to do Video or Audio chats no matter if you use an "AIM" Buddy List or "Jabber" one.
However in the Case of a Jabber one, the Buddy also has to be using iChat.
This is because Jabber Apps (including the standalone App called Googletalk for PCs) use different Protocols to do Video and Audio Chats.
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 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
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How many of my own computers can I download my Adobe E11 CD on to .

Hi , I am a complete newcomer to photography and photoshop , and I have just recently bought Adobe Photoshop Elements 11 .
I have two old laptops and an old desk top , and so I was wondering which computer to insert my Adobe cd into . It'll probably be the desk top , then I wondered if I can download the cd on to my other laptops , but I've read it's only 2 home computers that I can use them on .
So , I have 2 questions....
1] How many home computers for my own use can I download Adobe E11 on to ?
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