Ichat av 2.0 -trying to ichat kids w/ Grandpa who has old emac

Problem: grandkids want to video chat w/ Grandpa. Grandpa has emac w/ 10.2.8. Got macaully webcam. Installed, works perfectly. Problem: Grandpa's emac didn't come with ichat av, only regular ichat 1.0.1 (v51.4).
Is there any way I can get his Mac to do video chat? I can't find ichat av 2.0 anywhere - version tracker shows a link, but when you click, they bounce you over to a version that requires OSX 10.3, which he doesn't have. I don't even know if I can update his powerpc G4 from 10.2.8 to 10.3 - there doesn't seem to be a download for going from 10.2.8 to anything. Any ideas short of buying him a new computer?

Hi Sepurina,
Welcome to the Apple Discussions
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The link in the Above Line covers your issue in the whole of iChat 2.x
It is worth reading many of them for suggestions.
10:17 PM Friday; April 27, 2007

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badolina
Error -8 indicates that some of the necessary ports are not open.
You can read how to set up iChat by searching this board or reading these tutorials:
http://www.mvldesign.com/videoconferencetutorial.html
http://www.ralphjohnsuk.dsl.pipex.com/
But you might fare better with Skype instead. Download from www.Skype.com, one version for the Mac and one for the Windows machine.
Let us know how you get on.
Dave

How do I reinstall iChat, how do PC users video iChat with me, and should I just use skype?

1. I deleted iChat awhile ago by mistake. I searched ichat in Macintosh HD, and the only result was iChat the application file, but its icon is a faded out IWeb icon. When I click on it, it just bounces on my dock, until it disappears and an error message pops up stating it quit unexpectedly. I tried dragging the result to my desktop then redragging it into my Applications folder, but the same thing still happens (faded out iWeb icon instead of iChat icon, bounces, quits, error message). I also tried installing the iChat AV (forgot which version) and iChat Update 1.0 Universal, both of which said I had to have 10.4. I have 10.5.8. Also, if this makes any difference, the current faded out iChat in my Applications folder says its version 4.0.9. I do not have my reinstall CD, and do not want to call support and have them send me one. Considering I bought my macbook in late 2008, and my warranty is up, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't help me anyways. I also do not know of anyone who has a mac so the sharing option can be crossed offed. Is there a downloadable version of iChat for 10.5. users?
2. If I somehow managed to reinstall a working iChat, how would PC users connect to me and vide chat?
3. Should I just use skype? Would i have to download anything? Is skype video chat free? What are the differences between iChat and skype, and which one is better?
Thank you for your time!

Hi,
Reinstall Instructions
Be SURE to Download (Manually) and Install the COMBO version of the last Update to the OS you did as iChat will need to be Updated (Software Update will think it is already done and you need to Fool it)
Re 2).
In theory it is just a question oif you using a valid AIM name in iChat
This could be one registered with AIM or one from @mac.com or MobileMe if paid for or a current trial.
In Practice it can need a bit of tweaking at both ends
They Need to allow the AIM App through the Windows firewall as an Exception (AS with any Non Microsoft app)
They may also need to turn off the "Real Time" option that does not work to iChat and effects A/V chats as well. (It is Sending as you type). It will be in one of the Menus of their Budy List.
Post back for more if you get stuck.
Re 3)
Skype does offer free Video Chat and some people resort to it when iChat to AIM does not work.
It is free (At present - and you only pay for the Connection to and from real phones)
Skype was bought by Microsoft within the last week and things may change at some point in the future.
iChat has better Video
Audio depends on the capabilities of your Mac and their PC but is probably about equal.
Connection methods differ and iChat's Video and Audio Chats are technically more secure (you can in fact log out of the Buddy List as they adre Peer-to-Peer where as Skype uses a little bit of everyone's bandwidth (Between 40 and 100 other End Users)
Other options are here
Video options are from 8 onwards
Mebeam is now called Koowy. (Video Chatting in a Web Browser using Flash)
NOTES;
Google Do a Plug-in for Intels to allow you to use their Web Mail Page Chat Option
It can Conflict with Flash if you use more than one option.
10:24 PM Tuesday; May 17, 2011
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb( 10.6.7)
 Mac OS X (10.6.7),
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

HT2515 can I use ichat to talk to someone who has skype?

Can I use ichat to talk to someone who has skype?

Hi,
No.
9:39 PM Sunday; November 11, 2012
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
 iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images."  No, Seriously

I recently installed Mavericks and now I can't video chat with sister who has ichat, is there a fix?

Is ichat on an older machine compatible with Mavericks Messages video chatting? Is there something I can do to video chat with someone who has ichat on an older machine? They aren't going to upgrade so am I stuck with Skype? We really liked ichat.

Yes, I can video chat with someone on Skype. I only ichat with my younger sister and she doesn't ichat with anyone else. I don't have anyone else to try out the video chatting with in Messages. She's not tech savy and doesn't feel comfortable doing anything to her program. A friend may try to get her up and running on Skype, we just liked chatting with the Mac programs.

IChat... the most dropped calls since ... who?

Got a problem that has been coming to light slowly... but with regular frequency.
I'll be chatting away with someone and not getting any answers. Yes, some of my friends walk away from me as I'm talking to them...
BUT --
Both from my end and their end I'll loose messages.
It happens on both sides of the conversation. They'll send me a screen shot of them talking away that I never saw... yes, my chat window's open the whole time... and sometimes I'll send them a screen shot of me talking away that they never got.
Can't be normal... but any way to ward this off?
Thanks
CaptM

Hi Captain,
Catching up on older posts.
Sometimes this does happen. I have had it happen in regular Saturday Chat I have.
I find that as I turn my computer off when I am not using it that it pays to run something like MacJanitor or Cocktail and force the Cron scripts now and then.
Something in the things that gets rotated seems to need this.
Losing Stacked icons for other iChat 3 Buddies seems to be an indicator.
As Jan has said dropping files or Pics on the Buddies name can get around some problems with sending them in the Text field of chats.
Sometimes deleting com.apple.AIM.plist can help for a period.
This seems to point to ichat not always getting the right "flag" information back form the AIM servers about capabilities or Buddy list updates as to who is on-line and such.
Sorry for the late check in.
10:32 PM Saturday; March 17, 2007

My phone was stolen, but I had no data left and so can't locate it till the person who has it tries to use the internet. I backed up all my photos on iCloud, and want to get them on my PC. I installed iCloud onto the PC and still can't find my pictures?

My phone was stolen, but I had no data left and so can't locate it till the person who has it tries to use the internet. I backed up all my photos on iCloud, and want to get them on my PC. I installed iCloud onto the PC and followed the instructions and still can't find my pictures, says my photostream folder is empty, but it shows on iCloud that i've used most of my storage which is true, so they must be there somewhere?
Any ideas? I'd really appreciate the help! Thanks

Yes, I filed police report, but there is nothing they can do until I get back to them on the tracking. It's been offline. I'm sure the whoever took it can find a way around breaking in the ipad..i really was hoping to get my pictures and videos of my kids back

I'm trying to buy more storage on my iPad but when I get to the "buy" button, it has my old Apple ID and I can't go any farther. I've changed my Apple ID on all my devices, logged out, logged back in, rebooted, etc., but that one area still has old one.

I'm trying to buy more storage on my iPad but when I get to the "buy" button, it has my old Apple ID and I can't go any farther. I've changed my Apple ID on all my devices, logged out, logged back in, rebooted, etc., but that one area still has old one.

You can't buy more storage on an iPad. You are referring to space on iCloud and that probably won't accomplish what you are trying to do.

Having a problem with my ipad... I tried to install ios and the ipad has frozen

I am having a problem with my Ipad air. tried to install ios and my ipad has frozen

Click here and follow the instructions.
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Hi there. I have a problem with sound on my 4s. When you move the volume slider up, it sounds well. But when I move the volume slider down I will hear barely and unclear sound in my headphone.I tried different headphones but result is same as old one.Help

Hi there. I have a problem with sound on my 4s. When you move the volume slider up, it sounds well. But when I move the volume slider down I will hear barely and unclear sound in my headphone.I tried different headphones but result is same as old one.Help

Try A and B
(A) Restart iPad
1. Hold down the Sleep/Wake button until the red slider appears.
2. Drag the slider to turn off iPad.
3. Turn iPad back on, hold down the Sleep/Wake until the Apple logo appears
(B) Reset iPad
Hold down the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button at the same time for at least ten seconds, until the Apple logo appears
Note: Data will not be affected.

HI, I am trying to connect my macbook pro, 18 months old, to a projector using the mini display port and a cable/connector to a VGA port on the back of the projector. It all fits but the there is nothing happening? no mirroring option. Any ideas?

HI, I am trying to connect my macbook pro, 18 months old, to a projector using the mini display port and a cable/connector to a VGA port on the back of the projector. It all fits but the there is nothing happening? no mirroring option. Any ideas appreciated. Many thanks

to get to the Detect Displays button you have to hold down the Option key and the button appears.
SeanfromFulham wrote:
Many thanks, however I don't seem to have any relevant options under displays.

I am trying to move my itunes library from my old pc to my new imac, home sharing is on and I can see the shared library. My problem is that when I check the shared library to import it to my imac I cannot import it. Can anyone help me?

I am trying to move my itunes library from my old pc to my new imac, home sharing is on and I can see the shared library. My problem is that when I check the shared library to import it to my imac I cannot import it. Can anyone help me?

You need to transfer the iTunes Library from the most recent backup you made before the hard drive was replaced.
You can't transfer the full iTunes Library from the iPad back to iTunes.
There are third-party Windows applications that will transfer data from an iOS device, but they don't re-create the iTunes Library exactly as it was before.

I recently bought a new i phone 4 as my other one had seen beter days and for the last sevral days have been trying to transfer my photos ect from my old phone to my new one after I've plugged my old iPhone into iTunes to back it up i then plug in my i

I recently bought a new i phone 4 as my other one had seen beter days and for the last sevral days have been trying to transfer my photos ect from my old phone to my new one after I've plugged my old iPhone into iTunes to back it up i then plug in my one to transfer it over I've had no luck I've tryed restoring my new phone to the last time i backed up my old files the phone restores but always to its own backup point wen i first connected it to iTunes can anyone help me please?

Since this is the second computer you've had this problem with, I recommend you look for answers on the iPhone forum. My thinking is it is an iPhone issue rather than a computer issue (unless it is some software incompatibility).

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