ICloud and non iOS 5 devices

My Wife has an older iPhone and I have an earlier iTouch that will not update to iOS 5. What will happen if I launch iCloud? Will the two older devices still get email and messages?

Maybe we're talking past each other, or my forum searching capabilities stink. I'm not finding the workaround solutions you reference.
Is the consensus from others that, despite the fact that Apple advertises this as a current feature, it really isn't?

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Looking for a good document on family syncing with iCloud and multiple iOS devices

We have recently migrated off of Android devices for the whole family except for a Kindle Fire HD for my daughter. We all have an iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch type device that we want to sync our family calendars/reminders/notes to. Is there a good document on how to setup this family environment so that our notes/reminders/appointments are all in sync on each other's device. That way we all know what each other is doing. Do we each have to have a separate Apple ID or do we all share the same Apple ID to make this syncing work. I think I get how to make this work between my PC, 2 - iPhones (work and personal) and iCloud Web. Now how do I layer on my other family members into my calendar digital Cloud? HELP ME PLEASE. I HAVE A DIGITAL MESS.
Right now I have a personal Apple ID for my personal devices, new iPhone 6 Plus coming. I have a separate Apple ID for my Work iPhone 4s. My wife and kids have iPhone 5s. Wife and son have an iPad.
Please tell me I don't have to go see Rush Limbaugh to figure out how to make all this work.
Thanks,
Bob

You could each have separate iCloud accounts with separate IDs, and also share a "family" account for syncing a family calendar, notes and reminders. That will allow you to maintain still keep your contacts, and other data and photo streams separated while having access to the shared the family data in the secondary account. It also gives everyone their own free 5GB of storage for their backups, etc. The shared family calendar, notes and reminders will appear alongside your other calendars, notes and reminders in the corresponding apps on your devices. You'll just need to be sure to select the correct account within these apps when entering data to ensure it is added to either your personal or the shared family account.
To do this, create your primary accounts in the usual way, by going to Settings>iCloud and signing in with separate IDs and turn on the data sets you want to sync with iCloud. Then create a secondary account by going to Settings>Mail,Contacts,Calendars>Add Account>iCloud and signing in with a different ID and have everyone add this account to their devices as a shared family account. You can sync mail, contacts, calendars, notes and reminders with the secondary account, although you may want to just turn on calendars, notes and reminders.
You can continue to share the same iTunes store ID on all devices if you wish. It does not need to be the same as the ID you use for iCloud. Also, each person should use their own ID (such as the primary iCloud ID) for iMessage and FaceTime, otherwise you'll end up getting each other's text messages and FaceTime calls.
If you don't want to do all of this, and are primarily concerned about sharing your calendars, you can do that as explained here: http://help.apple.com/icloud/#/mm6b1a8694.
Another option to consider is to look into the new Family Sharing feature of iOS 8 if all of your devices will support iOS 8: https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/. The details on this haven't been released yet but should start to appear after it is released tomorrow.

Need help getting songs from iTunes to iCloud and to ios devices.

I just added some CDs onto my iTunes account on my MacBook and they won't transfer to my iPhone or iPad. The titles of the songs show up on my IOS devices within the Music app but they are grayed out and won't play. I'm using iCloud and Music Match. Hopefully something simple. Thanks in advance for your help!

UPDATE - 20 minutes at the Genius Bar and it was resolved. The tech that helped me out had never seen anything like it before but he and another tech starting looking up stuff on one of the iPads that they have which provides them with solutions to all kinds of problems. He tried a few things on my Mac and then kept switching pages on his iPad for solutions. I'm guessing it said "try this and if that doesn't work then go to the next step". Eventually he got it to work so obviously there is a "fix" out there for issues related to iMatch, iCloud, and the Moutain Lion update.
I asked him what all he did to fix it but he said it was too complicated to explain even though it was very simple. Oh well, rest assured that it can be corrected and hopefully someone will be able to post the fix on here so as to save people trips to an Apple Store. One last thing, nothing had to be removed or reloaded in my iTunes account. I hope this helps you out some.

HT4859 MobleMe, Apple Backup, a non-iOS device, and iCloud

If I undrstand correctly, when MobleMe dies in a few weeks, the Apple Backup program will only backup your computer's info to local hard drives as it does NOT use iCloud?

Hi,
The Apple App is called Messages on both iOS and Mac OS X devices.
The iOS version on iPhone can send SMS to non iOS devices.
At present (although rumoured to be coming) the Mac version cannot SMS to iPhone or non iOS devices.
However IF you have an AIM Login (AND some Apple issued IDs are valid AIM logins) and the person is using US phone on one of these carriers then the app will send SMS using the AIM service as sort of "translator" from IM (Instant Messages) to SMS
Basically you add a +1 (Country Code) to the Number and Add that to your AIM Buddy like it was Buddy.
Messenger tends to refer to MSN messenger or possibly Yahoo IM app that is called Yahoo Instant Messenger.
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Contacts and Calendar with iCloud and non-iCloud devices

I have a mix of non-iCloud and iCloud devices and macs, both at work and at home. Calendar has continued to sync correctly between all devices, however contacts is definitely not syncing between iCloud and non-iCloud devices. Bookmarks are also not coming across from iCloud devices to non-iCloud macs. Mail is working fine. I'm surprised that there is such variation in core apps. I would have expected iCal and Address Book to both work (or not work), but this seems not to be the case.
Keen to know if this is the norm for other uses of mixed environments?

I have a Macbook. Mac OS X 10.5.8. And an iPhone 4, as well as an iPad 2 - both on iOS 5.
There is a really really annoying and silly issue with syncing contacts and calendars across my Mac using iTunes (cable) and the iCloud options when my Mac does not support iCloud.
When I create / amend a contact or an event on my iOS device, if I choose (or more likely than not, the default option) "iCloud" for my contacts / calendar, the creation or amendment does NOT appear in my MAC even when syncing over cable with iTunes.
I have to choose ONE to edit - either the iCloud version OR the "from my Mac" version.
This is extremely annoying and silly - so much for Apple's seamless integration of products.
Of course, the easiest way out (and I am assuming Apple's preferred option) is to
(1) get a new Macbook Pro / Air that has OS X Lion which has iCloud inbuilt. - but that is just wasteful as my Macbook is still running flawlessly. (until now)
Or to do the unthinkable and tinker with electronics when you are totally clueless (like I am) and to
(2) upgrade to Snow Leopard and then to Lion - yeah right... have you friggin read those reviews?!?!
Is Apple intending to solve these issues for the non iCloud / iCloud group of users and make the Apple experience better again?
Or just because the company is doing great financially, and selling more products more than ever, and yet still have huge huge markets to conquer, gonna just ignore the above issues and just wait for our patience to wear thin, and do (1) - buy yet another new product.
OR we could switch to android and samsung and PCs and what have yous... please do not make us make this choice!!!

Configure an iCloud mail alias on an non iOS device

hello,
I was given a non-iOS device, the one that compete with the iPhone, and in its default mail client I successfully set up my iCloud mail as IMAP, but I want use one of my aliases to send mail from, is it possible?

To clarify, I have an iPhone as a personal device, the other device is for work purposes, but would like to configure my iCloud mail to have options.

HT3965 What about with the new iTunes and a non iOS device like my iPod nano 4??

The apple help forums don't tell me how to rename a non iOS device with the newest iTunes where you can't highlight the name or even right click! Help?

Check this doc, and post back:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61711

All my mail have disappeared From my mac and my iOS devices. Seemingly from the iCloud server as well. How can I recover them?

All my mail have disappeared from my mac and my iOS devices. Seemingly from the iCloud server as well. How can I recover them?

Well, you can't since the emails are stored on icloud's mail server. Try this test, using a computer's browser, log into icloud.com and check the mail page. If they are gone, then they are really gone.
Now, I thought I could go into a Time Machine backup and view old emails from a day ago. Unfortunately, Time Machine doesn't seem to save icloud based email, since regardless of the past date I go to, only the current emails show up, not older ones. My conclusion is that I wouldn 't be able to recover them from a TM backup.
What had you been doing on the mac or device that causes emails to be deleted? (I hope you don't have a family member or friend using the same icloud account - they may have deleted all emails by mistake.)

Can I search email archive on iCloud server from iOS device, or can I only search what it has downloaded locally?

Can I search email archive on iCloud server from iOS device, or can I only search what it has downloaded locally?
I currently have an iPhone and iPad, and am soon changing over to a Mac. When that happen I'd like to try to see what I can migrate over from the Google ecosystem to the iCloud ecosystem.
1) Currently I have the Gmail iOS app (a webapp container) that can search server-side of several years of email archive. Can iCloud do this using the iOS native mail application? Or is the search just limited to what the device has downloaded locally?
2) Do I have to use a @me.com address for the full iCloud email sync to take place between server, Mac, and iOS devices?
Believe it or not I've read quite a bit about the iCloud services, but the answers to these questions were far from clear. Many thanks for the help.

2) iCloud only syncs email between .me/.mac addresses. For other accounts like google, you set up the account in the mail app and if they're IMAP accounts, you can sync between the google server and any devices you have defined that account on.
I'm not absolutely sure about 1) since I haven't had to search going back years - I use MailSteward for that on the mac. On my iPhone/iPad, when I go into a mailbox and the emails are not immediately available, it downloads them. I suspect for a search, you need the emails downloaded.

Emoji not appearring correctly on non-iOS devices

When I send an e-mail or sms with an Emoji, it just displays as a square at the receivers end.
Why doesn't Apple send Emoji as a picture insertion in an e-mail, for receivers on non-iOS devices?
Or do Emoji in fact display correctly on some non-iOS devices?
Does anyone have experience with this where it has worked with a non-iOS device?

Radix__ wrote:
When I send an e-mail or sms with an Emoji, it just displays as a square at the receivers end.
That means the receivers device is using older technology and does not yet have a font for Unicode emoji, which have been the standard for several years now.
You can ask Apple to use some non-standard system like pictures via
http://www.apple.com/feedback
but it's not realistic to imagine they will go backwards like that.

HT5029 How do I link my subscribed calendars between icloud and my ios devises on a windows pc?

How can I link my subscribed calendars between icloud and my ios devises on my windows 7 pc?

I am having a problem that I cannot find addressed. My old computer TOTALLY died - it won't even turn on to deauthorize, back-up, and all those other steps given to transfer my music. All the info I have found, says you can authorize up to 5 devices etc, but so far, nothing is working. I just want to transfer my library, and don't have hours to spend on this. I have searched and searched, and really sincerely need help, and please - only helpful comment - yeah, obviously I am missing something some where. If anyone can offer some kind advice, I would REALLY be grateful!
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Texting a Non-iOS device with Messenger

If I want to use messenger to send a text and the recipient does not have an Apple device - can it be done with Messenger?

Hi,
The Apple App is called Messages on both iOS and Mac OS X devices.
The iOS version on iPhone can send SMS to non iOS devices.
At present (although rumoured to be coming) the Mac version cannot SMS to iPhone or non iOS devices.
However IF you have an AIM Login (AND some Apple issued IDs are valid AIM logins) and the person is using US phone on one of these carriers then the app will send SMS using the AIM service as sort of "translator" from IM (Instant Messages) to SMS
Basically you add a +1 (Country Code) to the Number and Add that to your AIM Buddy like it was Buddy.
Messenger tends to refer to MSN messenger or possibly Yahoo IM app that is called Yahoo Instant Messenger.
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 iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
 G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
 MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
 Mac OS X (10.6.8),
 Couple of iPhones and an iPad

TS3672 how can i send readable emoji to other non-ios devices?

how can i send readable emoji to other non-ios devices?
whenever i try to send a text message with emoji to other non ios devices it appears question mark (?) on that device,

Hello, Claire,
This question would appear to have nothing to do with Apple Remote Desktop, Apple's software for managing networked Macs, so this probably isn't the best place to ask this question. I'd suggest asking in the forum for your version of Mac OS X.
Please note that unless you own the complete rights to the music you used in the slide show - that is, you composed and performed it yourself, you didn't just buy the track on CD or from a download store - or you purchased the music from one of the "royalty free" services, then it would be a copyright violation and hence illegal to send that slideshow to others unless you remove the music track.
Regards.

TS2755 can i send imessage to any non ios devices like any andriod phone

can i send imessage to any non ios devices like any andriod phone?

I'm pretty sure you are full of it unless it was for a specific carrier messaging option. you CANNOT use iMessage with android devices. only iPhones, iPod and iPad running iOS 5.1.

Hi,i want send sms to non ios devices using iMessage from my ipadmini cellular .how?

.Hi,i want send sms to non ios devices using iMessage from my ipadmini cellular .if possible

You can't do that through the Messages app. It can only do iMessage, and iMessages can only be sent to iOS devices.
There are many SMS apps in the app store that may do what you want. Search the app store and try them out.
~Lyssa

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