ICloud Nightmare

I have a problem with Apple's iCloud.
It all started a few months ago when a friend recommended my mom to activate the iCloud Sync on her iPhone. The friend, trying to be helpful, activated the automatic iCloud Sync to the existing iTunes account she used on her phone. The problem was, and is, that my mom does not have her own iTunes account but instead had been using mine because she has an aversion and general distrust of technology. This set-up of sharing an iTunes account with her was never a problem until I got a new 4S the following month, activated iCloud (which I had never used on my previous 3G because I had been avoiding that software update), and received all of her contacts, calendar dates, pictures, etc. I was annoyed and, being the oldest child of a generally technologically-challenged family, I was expected to solve the problem. My first thought was to make my mom her own iTunes account and change her over to that iCloud account. What I didn't know was changing iCloud accounts causes all information synced with the previous account to be erased off of the device, so my brilliant Plan A effectively blew up in my face. Two very stressful, scream-filled hours later I gave up trying to route her information from my iTunes/iCloud/iPhone to hers and just reactivated my iCloud on her phone to restore all of her info. I then relegated myself to deactivating iCloud sync on my own, new device and (manually!) deleted all of her stuff from my phone.
Fast-forward to today: My phone has been acting up, i would like to Restore it but I now have several months worth of information I don't want to lose. iCloud seems like the easiest way to back up my stuff, and in general I would like to be able to use my own iTunes account to store my own information. My mom is still technically the sole user of my iCloud and she now has an iTunes account that has not been used since my failed attempt to separate our siamese-synced iPhones. My mom is also a particularly high-strung neurotic who refuses to lose any information on her phone (she won't even let me touch her phone anymore since the iCloud fiasco, she thinks I'll "break the cloud" again).
Please help me separate my mother's information from my own so we can resume our own lives. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, I've spent many hours on the phone and at the store with Apple Techs who are generally confused about this problem and how to solve it without my mom losing a good chunk of information.

This would be impossible unless you contact Apple them selves. Maybe they can help you.

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    I came back to try and get back on track recently. My only way forward was to forget about it and start again.
    AND THEN!!!
    I stupidly used pages on my ipad to edit a document from our development partner the other day. I opened my pages today, the document was there- then in front of my eyes all the documents shuffled around. Guess what- the doc I had edited disappeared.. In shock i called Apple Support. He asked me to check on icloud. com. 15 documents, not the one i want, advisor can see my doc- i cannot. I feel naseous.
    THIS CASE HAD ALREADY GONE TOO FAR. BUT NOW I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!!!!
    How can i escalate further? There must be a way. This is not acceptable! Apple are messing with my life!!!!! I'm losing too much time and money- it's just not fair at all. Something MUST be done by way of compensatiing for this series of errors!!!!

    There's nothing anyone here can do for you, and I'm afraid I have little sympathy.
    2000 hours of "irreplaceable work" and at no point during those 8 months did you think "Gee, I really should back up all these hugely important files just in case my iPad gets stolen, lost, breaks or some other disaster occurs"?
    As soon as you noticed something was amiss, or even at the point when you still had access to 60% of your documents, why did you not take the opportunity to download a copy of them via iCloud.com (on any computer) and save them safely on a memory stick or other backup device?
    Having just one copy of any file is asking for trouble. Backing up regularly is the No.1 rule of computing. Apple is not responsible for your lack of any backup routine. Apple advise you to backup regularly. Being able to backup your iPad should've been your motivation for spending an hour or two of those 2000 getting the MacBook up and running.

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