ICloud Photo Library and Family Sharing

Does anyone know how the iCloud Photo Library and Family Sharing accounts interact? I'd rather not have to specify what to share with the rest of the family if I don't have to.

Each family member has their own Apple ID, but uses the main one for purchases. It seems to make sense that each AppleID could have its own Photos library, but I can't find anything in the support area that says this to be the case definitively. I want each family member to have their own Photos library that syncs between their iPhone and their ID. I hope that's how it works.

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HT204264 Will iCloud Photo Library allow family sharing?

I recently spend a lot of time and effort moving our family of 4 to a Family Sharing program. It works nicely for music and apps.
Now that there is this new option for iPhoto I am seriously considering using it to store all our photos (right now we are using a local NAS). Problem is, it appears, is that everyone now has their own account and therefore cannot point iPhoto to the same account for iPhoto.
I suppose to reasoning for this would be that if I'm going to spend $20/Month to get 1TB of storage, I'm not going to be doing it for every account - just the one main family account.
Thoughts?

Apologies - I need to update the footer. Forgot it was automatically attached.
1 - Newest OS, 10.10.2. Newest iPhoto, 9.6.
2 - Agreed and understood. I had the NAS failure the other day, swapped out a disk and am back in action. This was more of a future question. I don't feel like local RAID is appropriate anymore given the cloud options out there... and those to come.
3 - Again, I provided insufficient information. I have a NAS to which I have offline storage of iPhoto. I execute a weekly cron job which rsync's to the NAS - copying a bunch of data. iPhoto, iTunes music, etc.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my clearly obtuse post.
Hopefully the new data is useful.
LarryHN wrote:
Thoughts? Yes!
1 - You state that you have OS X 10.6.8 - Is that correct? what version of iPhoto?
2 - iCloud Photo Library is not available on the Mac (it will be when Photos is released probably with OS X 10.10.3 later this year) Uitil it is released and available no one knows what exactly it will be
3 - You appear to be operating very dangerously as the iphoto library can not be on a NAS (It must be on a drive formatted Mac OS extended (journaled) ) and it can not be accessed via a network (you must access the iPhoto library using a hard wire connection like FireWire, USB or ThunderBolt)
(right now we are using a local NAS)
So you need to provide details
LN

ICloud Photo Library and iPhone Storage

How can I delete just the locally stored photos/videos on my iPhone? I am using iCloud Photo Library and just imported thousands of pics into Photos for Mac. Now, my iPhone can "see" my entire photos library, but I have 18GB of 'Photos' locally stored on the phone. I would like to be able to delete the locally stored pics but when I try to delete any image (whether I know it's one that is locally stored or know it is one that is in iCloud), it says, "This photo will be deleted from iCloud Photo Library on all of your devices." I do not want to delete it from iCloud, only my iPhone. Thanks in advance!

yeah, I don't think they are allowing you to do this. You can only optimize the locally stored photos, and if the phone fills up with those, it will then dump some from your phone but keep them in the cloud. Like you, I was hoping that once you store a photo in iCloud, you could remove the local copy of the photo. and worse, if you do start deleting photos from your phone, it sounds like they automatically get deleted off of the cloud, after 30 days that is. Doesn't make sense to me. Finally, on your mac, if you have more photos than you have iCloud photo storage, it just stops syncing, rather than just storing your most recent pics?!?

Difference between iCloud Photo Library and Upload to My Photo Stream?

What is the difference between the iCloud Photo Library and the Upload to My Photo Stream options in the iCloud settings on my iPhone / iPad? Is it that uploading to the iCloud Photo Library uploads the images to iCloud (for viewing via browser) and using the Photo Stream only syncs the images between iOS devices?
I've had an iPad for awhile but I just got my first iPhone and I'm trying to understand the sync behavior. It seems that with both options enabled (iCloud and Photo Stream), every single image, screenshot, picture downloaded from Twitter, etc is all getting lumped together in the All Photos album and then synced everywhere. I absolutely do not want this. Can I have just a Camera Roll folder that syncs between devices, and then downloads / screenshots / etc stay local to the device without syncing?
I'm coming from Windows Phone, which worked exactly how I just described. Pictures taken with the phone went to the Camera Roll and the Camera Roll synced to OneDrive, and then images downloaded via other apps, or screenshots, went to separate albums that did not sync (unless I configured those albums to sync). This way everything was logically separated, easy to find, and I had complete control over the syncing behavior. This is what I'm trying to replicate on my iPhone.
Oh, is it true that every image *has* to be in the All Photos albums? There's no way to move screenshots and downloads to separate albums so they don't get cluttered with pictures I take? Or can I enable a separate Camera Roll folder?
Jason

I realize no one is twisting my arm to use anything. But that doesn't stop me from being disappointed about iOS's photo management capabilities compared to what I was used to in Windows Phone.
I already have unlimited OneDrive storage per my Office 365 account so that's not an issue. I just assumed that iCloud would be a more elegant photo syncing solution since it's built into the OS so that was the path I wanted to pursue. However now that I have a better understanding of the iCloud solution, it's clear that I'll stick with the OneDrive app for iOS to automatically back up my photos there instead of iCloud.
Not trying to be snarky and I do appreciate the info and links provided - those definitely helped.
Jason

ICloud Photo Library and iPhoto/Time Capsule

Ok, so I'm thinking about getting a Time Capsule. I use iCloud Photo Library and also use iPhoto to sync my photos to my Macbook. I have the storage optimizer turned on in iCloud Photo Library.
That being said, let's say that I sync my iPhone to my Macbook and import my photos into iPhoto. Presumably, this is only going to import the photos in the storage-optimized resolution, correct? My goal here is to have my full-resolution photos backed up both to iCloud as well as iPhoto/Time Capsule. Is there any way to do that other than to turn off the size optimization? The big problem problem I see with that is that when my phone gets full and I have to clear off the photos, this clears them from iCloud as well and I'm left with only the Time Capsule backup.
Am I wrong or have they kind of made these two products somewhat incompatible? Is this something that's going to be addressed with the new Photos app for OSX, where you can download the original resolution files from iCloud into Photos and then back up?

Yes, the photos will still stream from My Photo Stream to iPhoto on your Mac, even with iCloud Photo Library Beta enabled. Like before, the camera.app needs to be closed and the device connected to Wi-Fi, and properly charged.
You can see the photos also using the iCloud home page from the Photos.app Beta at iCloud.com .

Can I share an iCloud photo library between family members?

I am searching for a good photo and video backup solution for my entire family. Previously I was backing up photos to a Windows Home Server that did a weekly backup to Amazon's cloud storage; however, the system disk on the home server blew up, leaving me with the choice to rebuild the server or alternatively look for a more seamless, lightweight solution. I have large quantity of photos and video on a home server data drive, as well as a large number of photos that have been recently scanned to my MacBook pro. We have almost completely transitioned to Apple products and use Time Machine for Macbook backups, so that function of the Home Server is no longer useful.
I like the concept of Apple's iCloud Photo Library; however, I need a solution that allows photos from at least my wife's and my devices to be seamlessly backed up to the library. We use different iCloud IDs. The ideal use case would be that photos taken on any of our devices (across a set of iCloud IDs) would be shared within a single library.
Family Sharing allows you to share a number of things across family members, but currently the photo library doesn't appear to be one of them.
Any pointers on how to proceed? Will the OS X Photo app and the move to bring iCloud library to the Mac make any difference? Any alternative solutions?

Someone else can probably answer the family sharing question better than I can, but I wanted to respond with an alternate suggestion. I didn't find the features I wanted in family sharing, so I didn't give it much of a chance. It did seem like you'd have a separate album for each family member.
I just recently started using Flickr and it's great. I looked into it a few years ago and there were limitations on how many MB's you could upload per day and I don't remember being impressed by the amount of free storage. Now Flickr gives you 1000 GB for free and stores the image in the original quality and size. If you download the Flickr app on your phone, you can set it to automatically upload all of the new pictures on your iphone, ipad, etc. If you and a family member share a Flickr account, you can both auto sync your camera rolls into the same Flickr account.
Personally, I'm using Flickr as a way to automatically back up photos for free. I quickly ran out of free icloud storage and I haven't wanted to pay for more.In Flickr, the auto uploads from your phone are set to private by default, but you could use flickr to share albums with friends who don't own any apple products... unlike icloud photo sharing, that only allows your friends with an apple device to view shared albums.

How does iCloud Photo Library and Optimize iPhone Storage Work?

Even Apple Phone support can't answer these questions:
How does iCloud Photo Library (Beta) from yesterday's 8.1 update with Optimize iPhone Storage turned on work? (I'm on an iPhone 6)
It only stores your iPhone/iPad versions on your device, which is amazing. Why would you need anything else? It freed up around 8-10GB of space on my device which is amazing. But how does it work when you use it?
When you email it seems to ask you, when sending what size you want to send like it's always done. It gives you the original 2.4MB version. This works like I'd imagine and when I received the test email the photo was correct. In this case I assume it hits iCloud and sends it from there, not your actual device. (Like it doesn't re-download it to email it). Correct?
When posting to Facebook, does it do this same thing? Or is this something Facebook has to build into their iOS app in an update? Or does it just work? Correct?
When posting to Instagram, does it grab the right version. Obviously the phone optimized version should be fine, but when viewing on a Desktop version of Instagram at instagram.com, will it show the right version?
Sometimes I backup photos using Image Capture on the Mac. If I did that right now, would it only grab the iPhone versions? Obviously I can just test it but it'd be amazing if someone who knows these things could explain all of these use cases.
Do you need to be on
In closing it's more of how does this work? Does it work? Why wouldn't you want to use this feature if it saved space and made more sense? I guess I just would love some real clarity since not even the blogs are explaining how it works in every application.
In closing part 2. It does seem to work really well, it's just those fringe cases. I just viewed all my photos on https://beta.icloud.com/#photos and they're all there, easy download of the high res, delete, it deletes from my camera roll on my phone, it's amazing, it works, it's magic. Just tell me what issues there are with storing only low res iPhone on my device and if there are none, game on!
Thanks!

santiagofrommiami wrote:
And of those 4.3GB of backup, my Photo Library is 1.4GB.
So my question is, how do I prevent my Photo Library from being backed up to the cloud, since I already have a backup of it everytime I connect to iPhoto and it copies all those photos to my mac?
I don't know, sorry. It's supposed to work alongside Photos & iCloud, so that photos are stored only once. When it doesn't work you have a couple of options as I see it –
Delete the old backups on iCloud to hopefully start over (I don't like deleting the only backup of anything).
Forget about iCloud backups & use iTunes to backup instead, it might not be suitable if you have no computer etc.
Buy more storage for iCloud.
I don't use iCloud backup, it bemuses me with issues like this, there is no easy way to resolve when it fails.
And one more question while we are at it...can I erase iphoto from my computer now that I have the new Photos app?
That is up to you. If you are happy you do not need it & have a backup of it go ahead & remove it. You can re-download it from the app store if it is already in your Mac App store account.

ICloud photo library and iPhone/iPad storage space

Hi,
I use iCloud photo library beta for some time and it's a great feature for apple product. However, I'm a bit worried about what happend after some time. Now I have 20Gb of storage in iCLoud and 16Gb iPhone 6 and iPad air 2. On both of them is the "optimize iPhone/iPad storage" checked. What will happen after I would put 20Gb of photos to the iCloud and the iPhone and iPad wouldn't have enough storage to handle them (even when the photos are optimize)?
Thanks for any response or a link where it is discussed,
Jakub

Hi jakudo,
"optimize iPad/iPhone storage" means that photos don't have to take any storage capacity of your devices, if you are using your devices storage capacity e.g. for other content like music, apps etc. Your photos will be stored in the cloud and only a some of them are stored locally as long as you have storage space available. The only thing you have to do, is upgrading for more storage as soon as your passing the 20 GB.
With kind regards,
David

ICloud photo library and iCloud storage

How do I clear up my iCloud photo library because I uploaded all my photos to my Mac so they're safe and I deleted a lot from my phone because I had no use for them since they're on my computer but I still have like no storage on my iCloud. So is it best that I turn off I loud library to clear and then after 30 days turn it back on ?

yeah, I don't think they are allowing you to do this. You can only optimize the locally stored photos, and if the phone fills up with those, it will then dump some from your phone but keep them in the cloud. Like you, I was hoping that once you store a photo in iCloud, you could remove the local copy of the photo. and worse, if you do start deleting photos from your phone, it sounds like they automatically get deleted off of the cloud, after 30 days that is. Doesn't make sense to me. Finally, on your mac, if you have more photos than you have iCloud photo storage, it just stops syncing, rather than just storing your most recent pics?!?

I turned off iCloud Photo Library and switched it back on, and now it says my photos won't fit on my Mac.

I migrated my iPhoto Library to the new Photos app with no problem, and when it finished migrating, I switched on iCloud Photo Library, again with no problem. My entire photo library uploaded, and I chose to keep the originals stored on my Mac.
This all went according to plan, but I just switched iCloud Photo Library off, and then on again, and now it says that the "full-resolution photos and videos stored in iCloud will not fit on this Mac." This is can't be the case, because the full-resolution files are already on my mac, that's where they came from before I even uploaded them to the cloud. It seems like it's trying to download them all again, without recognizing that the same photos that are in the cloud, are already on my Mac.
Any advice on how I can solve this?

You may not really be connected to your WiFi network.
Your router may not have given your iPad a valid IP address. Go to Settings > Wifi > your network name and touch the ">" to the right to see the network details. If the IP address starts with 169 or is blank then your router didn't provide an IP address and you won't be able to access the Internet.
Sometimes the fix can be as simple as restarting your router (remove power for 30 seconds and restart). Next, reset network settings on your iPad (Settings > General > Reset > Reset network settings) and then attempt to connect. In other cases it might be necessary to update the router's firmware with the latest from the manufacturer's support web pages.

Help! switched off icloud photo library and back on and now reuploads 35k 180GB photos!

I have already uploaded 35,000pics and videos totaling 180GB to icloud but as the last items upload seeemed stuck I went to settings and i turned off and back on photo library. That was it! After opening again photos app, aftera scan of my photos, it started REUPLOADING AGAIN 180GB 35,000 photos!!! Please help, I'm desperate!

I've tried this too, but it wasn't uploading them all again, it was just checking every photos and only uploading new ones ... but it checked each and every photo! I have a problem with duplicates instead, and it is the duplicates that get uploaded!

ICloud Photo Library & Family Sharing

Hi there,
is there a way to share the "iCloud Photo Library" with Family Sharing ?
Since iOS 8 do not allow to use "Share my location" on multiple devices a.k.a. "Find my Friends" (Me & my wife use one iOs account) I have to use two accounts with Family Sharing. But now the "My Photostream" is gone on my wife's device as expected.... So can I have this with "iCloud Photo Library" ?
For me it makes no sense that I have all photos and my wife don't...
Sven

Each family member has their own Apple ID, but uses the main one for purchases. It seems to make sense that each AppleID could have its own Photos library, but I can't find anything in the support area that says this to be the case definitively. I want each family member to have their own Photos library that syncs between their iPhone and their ID. I hope that's how it works.

Is there a way to prevent pictures/video from uploading to iCloud photo library from my iPhone and just have pictures/video from my Macbook in Photos upload to iCloud Photo Library?

I would like just my imported photos and video in the Photos App to be synced to my iCloud Photo Library, and not the photos and video from my iPhone. Is there a way to do this?

You can either sync them back to your iPhone is you have them saved on a computer, or you can restore from a backup if you have one. Those would be about your only options. iOS: Back up and restore your iOS device with iCloud or iTunes

Missing movie files in my project since iOS 8 and iCloud Photo Library

Hello all,
I've been to New York at the start of 2014 and created an awesome movie project in iMovie for iOS. That was when iOS 7.1.2 was the most current release. Today, I wanted to finish up my project. I'm currently running iMovie 2.1.1 on iPad air 1 running iOS 8.1.2 and iCloud Photo Library is enabled since day one. I Opened the project today and iMovie told me there are missing movies in the project and offered me to search for them. It only found 2 out of 140 or something. Now my project timeline is filled with clip with exclamation marks and many transitions with pictures in them are missing too. I tried to download clips that are in iCloud by tapping the Cloud icon but iMovie still cannot find them. Ive also tried importing from iCloud drive, disabling iCloud photo library and syncing the movies from iPhoto using iTunes on my iMac but iMovie cannot link them to the project. I'd hate to see hours of editing work to go down the drain.
Hope someone can help.
RF

Ok, so sinc you turned iCloud photo library, that automatically delets all of your current photos. I found that out the hard way. I'm sorry to hear that your editing has gone to waste. It is still odd that some media was saved though.

Photo's not syncing with iCloud photo library from and to iPhone

Photo synchronization stopped working from and to my iPhone 6.
Currently new photo's taken on my phone aren't uploaded to the iCloud photo library and new photo's uploaded from my mac to the iCloud library aren't showing up on my iphone. I still have enough space available on iCloud.
It worked fine until two weeks ago.
Any suggestions how this issue can be resolved?
Thanks,
Koen

My process was turning on iCloud Photo Library on my imac only at first and uploaded my 70,000 pics which took about 2 weeks (did much of it at night). After it was done I turned it on my three devices at the same time (iphone 6, iPhone 6+ and iPad 2). The download to the devices (eg thumbnails) took about another week and it seemed to work largely fine until recently. It doesn't however really work on my iPad 2, but it's so old I'm not too surprised.
My only issue now (hopefully) is the response time on the 6+ which seems quite slow. Good luck and I would try to turn it on and see what happens. But be patient, at first it takes quite some time.

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