ICloud photo library question

So I can find hundreds of articles telling me that if you iCloud storage is full, your photos won't sync anymore. But if you have thousands of photos, what will happen in my phone is eventually full?
I mean, I have my "optimize iPhone storage" option turned on, but there will be a maximum right? Or are the optimized versions really that small of size?
Thank you in advance for answering my question.
Rafael

Yeah - I'm not seeing anywhere that it states if there is a maximum of "optimized" photos you can keep on your device. I'm guessing that "optimized" photos must be much like iTunes in the Cloud where you can see all of your music (including what is stored in the cloud), but only the music you have actually downloaded will be on your physical device. So only the "original photos" that the management system have left on your device, or that you have specifically downloaded are actually on your device.
Sorry I'm not 100% on that. I'll see if any of our Photo experts know for certain!
But to answer your question about:
"nowhere it's stated that your oldest/never viewed pictures will be removed from your device" I think this covers that particular question:
How does iCloud Photo Library save space on my device?
If you turn on Optimize [device] Storage, iCloud Photo Library will automatically manage the size of your library on your iOS device, so you can make the most of your device's storage and access more photos than ever. iCloud Photo Library stores the original, high-resolution photos and videos in iCloud and can keep lightweight, device-optimized versions on each of your devices. As long as you have enough storage, recent photos and videos that you access the most will stay on your device at full resolution.
To turn on Optimize [device] Storage on your device, tap Settings > iCloud > Photos or Settings > Photos & Camera, then select Optimize [device] Storage. You need an Internet connection to access an original photo or video that’s stored only in iCloud.
So, if original photos are the ones that are actually on your device, then it will remove older and least viewed original photos to maximize storage when needed.
This is supported by the paragraph about turning off iCloud Photo Library:
You can turn off iCloud Photo Library for a single iOS device by going to Settings > iCloud > Photos and turning off iCloud Photo Library beta. If you turned on Optimize [device] Storage, you might not be storing all original photos and videos on that device. To download the original photos and videos, select Download and Keep Originals.
If it is off, you do not have access to those photos that are "optimized", so that supports the idea that they actually live in the cloud.
Cheers,
GB

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ICloud Photo Library questions... how beta-ish?

1 so much for High Res ... however, every time I attempt to download a photo from the new Photos app on iCloud.com to my PC, it's downloaded in low resolution. Like a 3264x2448 (original size when uploaded from iOS) becomes a 2048x1536 when downloaded to the PC.
2 how come that iCloud Photo library isn't available in iCloud Photos (Windows app)?
3 why is Photostream still available ?!? ... the funniest being that activating iCloud Photo Library on iOS activates photostream at the same time ... In that case, the Photo Stream album remains hidden, but probably still activated and eating up space. That's ridiculous. I know, just turn it off.
4 how optimized is "optimized" ... on my iPhone, when I choose to store optimized local versions of photos and videos with iCloud Photo Library activated, there's absolutely no change: all photos, even after hours, remain locally stored in full res and uncompressed.

just to correct something wrong that I said: if iCloud Photo Library and PhotoStream are activated, PhotoStream won't actually eat any space and it will behave like it did in iOS 8.0 - 8.0.2, seamlessly integrated in Photos. Now if iCloud Photo Library is off and PhotoStream is still on, a new album will be created, containing low res versions of both uploaded and downloaded files (like in iOS 7), using local storage again.
Anyway ... expecting iCloud Photo Library to get out of beta ASAP and PhotoStream to go ... for good.

ICloud Photo Library question IOS 8.0.2

Hi,
I have updated IOS to 8.0.2. Now I have an option to turn iCloud Photo Library ON. Correct me if I am wrong, this allows me that every photo or video is automatically uploaded on iCloud... Right? What I want to know is, if this uploading is done only when connected on WiFi, or also when on cellular connection?
Thanks for help!
BTW: Does anyone know where are these photos or videos stored on iCloud? How to get to them on iCloud? These new Photos features with iCloud and syncing are so messy...

Thank you AxeMan1020! This information helps me, as well.
I am writing to see if perhaps photo streams and shared photos might solve which photo solution (My Photo Stream Vs iPhoto Library) to use when where and why, assisting nikoo_80 - and myself...
nikoo_80 wrote:
Hi,
I have updated IOS to 8.0.2. Now I have an option to turn iCloud Photo Library ON. Correct me if I am wrong, this allows me that every photo or video is automatically uploaded on iCloud... Right? What I want to know is, if this uploading is done only when connected on WiFi, or also when on cellular connection?
Thanks for help!
BTW: Does anyone know where are these photos or videos stored on iCloud? How to get to them on iCloud? These new Photos features with iCloud and syncing are so messy...
Axeman1020 wrote:
By default it uses cellular data. If you turn off cellular data for photos Settings > Cellular > Photos - off) then it will be restricted to wifi.
Just a few warnings, iCloud Photo Library is still in beta so I suggest before turning it on you backup your photos.
Also, once it is enabled, you will no longer be able to sync photos via iTunes and any photos currently on the device that were synced via iTunes will be removed.
By using Photo Streams and shared / auto upload (My Photo Stream) that was also in iOS7, I notice that all of the photos I took, when enabling automatic upload to all my devices, every photo I took was uploaded to iCloud and distributed to iPads and Mac computers, restricted to WiFi only.
When I delete a specific photo, that photo would remain on another device. Removing the share / auto-upload (disabling My Photo Stream) on the phone was able to remove the photos shared from the iPhone onto other devices via iCloud.
Interesting note from AxeMac1020 as using the Beta iPhoto Library disables the ability to retrieve using iTunes or iPhoto after being enabled AND it goes back 30 days only, I like that however how do we preserve photos? Back-up using iPhoto, then enable Library Beta? If this will delete photos once enabled, do we use "Image Capture" or "iPhoto" for import and protection against them being deleted? Seems like a benchmark as majority of photos will be deleted (although I removed all photos completely prior to activating iPhone 6.
I had an issue with the synchronization of photos into iTunes (iOS7) whereas the photos would synch though the storage amount would double as I was selecting events and albums (iTunes sync) while maintaining the same on the iPhone (5), iOS7 related somehow, most likely user error on my part. The point is, with 64GB on that phone, it used 80% of the storage by copying the photos thrice, somehow.
logging into iPhoto, iTunes, I was able to sort, move and remove photos though this is previous to the iCloud Drive & iCloud Photo Library. Does iCloud Photo Library require iCloud Drive and if these are sync'd like iOS7, are these managed on each device, distributed similarly as My Photo Stream? can they be managed on iCloud.com? managed via camera roll / albums/ etcetera ? Are these iCloud Drive managed? Centralized and managed on device that took the photo?
Interesting twist as I hadn't noticed this feature until now! Thank you both !
I am not able to turn iCloud Drive ON yet as my OS X Mavericks require Yosemite OR!!!! Perhaps we have an update!!! I'll check now.
Great resources in this thread! Thanks !

ICloud photo library questions

Hi,
sorry in advance for my poor english, but i'll try to explain the best that i can...
I have an iPhone 6 128GB and an iPad Air 128 GB.
All my pictures were taken using my iPhone (restored icloud backup from iPhone 5s and I have 1200 photos)
With iOs 8.0.2 I enables iCloud Photo Library on both iPhone and iPad.
Well. Now on my iPad i choose the optimized version of photos to preserve space, but the photos don't download automatically, as i see only blank previews in photos app.
I need to scroll the library and they eventually start to download to ipad... Doing this i have the full library on ipad and it keeps more or less 600 MB.
On iphone i also chose to keep only optimized version, but the total sotrage capacity occupied by photos keep being 4,9 GB (as before enabling iCloud Photo library)
As what i understood, it sould have decreased the gb occupied by photos as on ipad... is it correct?
Also, on iPad, if i disable icloud photo library, it says that all photos are going to be removed form ipad, but this does not happen on iphone, like it did not understood that on iphone there are only optimised versions...
Could someone explain me whaty is going on?
thank you
Paolo

just to correct something wrong that I said: if iCloud Photo Library and PhotoStream are activated, PhotoStream won't actually eat any space and it will behave like it did in iOS 8.0 - 8.0.2, seamlessly integrated in Photos. Now if iCloud Photo Library is off and PhotoStream is still on, a new album will be created, containing low res versions of both uploaded and downloaded files (like in iOS 7), using local storage again.
Anyway ... expecting iCloud Photo Library to get out of beta ASAP and PhotoStream to go ... for good.

Can I share an iCloud photo library between family members?

I am searching for a good photo and video backup solution for my entire family. Previously I was backing up photos to a Windows Home Server that did a weekly backup to Amazon's cloud storage; however, the system disk on the home server blew up, leaving me with the choice to rebuild the server or alternatively look for a more seamless, lightweight solution. I have large quantity of photos and video on a home server data drive, as well as a large number of photos that have been recently scanned to my MacBook pro. We have almost completely transitioned to Apple products and use Time Machine for Macbook backups, so that function of the Home Server is no longer useful.
I like the concept of Apple's iCloud Photo Library; however, I need a solution that allows photos from at least my wife's and my devices to be seamlessly backed up to the library. We use different iCloud IDs. The ideal use case would be that photos taken on any of our devices (across a set of iCloud IDs) would be shared within a single library.
Family Sharing allows you to share a number of things across family members, but currently the photo library doesn't appear to be one of them.
Any pointers on how to proceed? Will the OS X Photo app and the move to bring iCloud library to the Mac make any difference? Any alternative solutions?

Someone else can probably answer the family sharing question better than I can, but I wanted to respond with an alternate suggestion. I didn't find the features I wanted in family sharing, so I didn't give it much of a chance. It did seem like you'd have a separate album for each family member.
I just recently started using Flickr and it's great. I looked into it a few years ago and there were limitations on how many MB's you could upload per day and I don't remember being impressed by the amount of free storage. Now Flickr gives you 1000 GB for free and stores the image in the original quality and size. If you download the Flickr app on your phone, you can set it to automatically upload all of the new pictures on your iphone, ipad, etc. If you and a family member share a Flickr account, you can both auto sync your camera rolls into the same Flickr account.
Personally, I'm using Flickr as a way to automatically back up photos for free. I quickly ran out of free icloud storage and I haven't wanted to pay for more.In Flickr, the auto uploads from your phone are set to private by default, but you could use flickr to share albums with friends who don't own any apple products... unlike icloud photo sharing, that only allows your friends with an apple device to view shared albums.

I have the iCloud Photo Library (Beta) turned on. The photos from my iPhone do get uploaded to the iCloud. The photos are then downloaded to my wife's iPhone (we share the iCloud account). How do I keep the photos from downloading to my wife's iPhone

I do not want all the photos from my iPhone downloading to my wife's iPhone from iCloud? We share an iCloud account. How can I prevent the download to my wife's iPhone from iCloud. .The "Upload to My Photo Stream" is turned off on my iPhone. . I am running 8.1.3.
I have a related question. In order to same space on my iPhone is there a way to upload the photos to the iCloud and then delete them from my iPhone.

The way to keep the photos from downloading to your wife's phone would be for her to go to Settings > iCloud > Photos > and turn off iCloud Photo Library. If that isn't an option, the other option would be for her to have her own Apple ID ( and possibly explore the new family sharing options https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/family-sharing/ )
Regarding the "related question" see the quotes below from iCloud Photo Library beta FAQ - Apple Support
Deleting a photo or video from your Photos app will also remove the item from iCloud Photo Library and from your iCloud storage allocation. Photos and videos you remove can be recovered from the Recently Deleted album for 30 days. After 30 days, your content will be removed from the Recently Deleted album.
If you want to reduce the space used by photos on your phone, rather than deleting them see the following:
How does iCloud Photo Library save space on my device?
If you turn on Optimize [device] Storage, iCloud Photo Library will automatically manage the size of your library on your iOS device, so you can make the most of your device's storage and access more photos than ever. iCloud Photo Library stores the original, high-resolution photos and videos in iCloud and can keep lightweight, device-optimized versions on each of your devices. As long as you have enough storage, recent photos and videos that you access the most will stay on your device at full resolution.
You can turn on Optimize [device] Storage from Settings > iCloud > Photos or Settings > Photos & Camera > iCloud Photo Library on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. You need an Internet connection to access an original photo or video that’s stored only in iCloud.

How do I share one iCloud Photo Library

We are in our late 60's (years of age). We have 3,500 pics on the Mac,
I now have PHOTOS on my Mac, my iPhoto Library is 8.99GB.
I am almost ready to jump to use iCloud Photo Library. I know I will need to up it to 20GB @ .99 cents a month (a deal if all this works out)
How can she and I access my *(our)* photos in iCloud Photo Library.
Our Stuff::
Mac Book Pro 2011 13" OSX 10.10.3 I have two external HD's as back ups, on on Time Machine, on with SupperDupper.
My phone iPhone 5:16GB iOS 8.03,
my wifes iPhone iPhone 5:16GB iOS 6, (yeah, I know!!)
Yes, I will got through the hurdle of upgrading and teaching her iOS 8.03 on her phone.
She has always had an Apple ID but never even used the App Store for a purchase.
So, I do all of that how does she access the pics to show her friends.
Is Family Sharing as bad as many have said: Maybe that's for another question/group.
We have 3,500 pics on the Mac, I have two external HD's as back ups, on on Time Machine, on with SupperDupper.
Thank you Apple Community in advance for any advice of a positive nature.
jojoguitar_mn_USA

You mention she hasn't made a purchase on her AppleID. But does she use unique iCloud features? Does she use her own email, Calendar and contacts provided by iCloud?
If she effectively shares all the iCloud feature set with you, you could safely just use her device(s) as your own. If you look in the iCloud settings you'll notice some can be turned on and off, like mail and calendars, etc. Those services are accessible as a secondary account. The services like Find my iPhone and Photos are only accessible from the primary iCloud account.
If that particular service set works for your needs-
Set the primary iCloud account on her phone with your credentials.
Then the Photo library available via iCloud photos will be the same one you sync with on your mac.
If not - you can't do what you want. You have to set up family sharing and use the Family Album. Share your photos to the Family album and they'll be visible to her, but not her library.

HT6378 Can I share my iCloud-Photo-Library with my wife, so that photos from my iPhone and all photos from my wifes iPhone are in the same Photo-Library?

I have a Apple-ID and my wife has her own Apple-ID, but I want to use only one iCloud-Photo-Library. Is that possible?
I have created a Family-Sharing, but when I now set Foto-Library to on at both of our iPhones, I have one Library for my wife and another one for me.
Is there a trick?

Someone else can probably answer the family sharing question better than I can, but I wanted to respond with an alternate suggestion. I didn't find the features I wanted in family sharing, so I didn't give it much of a chance. It did seem like you'd have a separate album for each family member.
I just recently started using Flickr and it's great. I looked into it a few years ago and there were limitations on how many MB's you could upload per day and I don't remember being impressed by the amount of free storage. Now Flickr gives you 1000 GB for free and stores the image in the original quality and size. If you download the Flickr app on your phone, you can set it to automatically upload all of the new pictures on your iphone, ipad, etc. If you and a family member share a Flickr account, you can both auto sync your camera rolls into the same Flickr account.
Personally, I'm using Flickr as a way to automatically back up photos for free. I quickly ran out of free icloud storage and I haven't wanted to pay for more.In Flickr, the auto uploads from your phone are set to private by default, but you could use flickr to share albums with friends who don't own any apple products... unlike icloud photo sharing, that only allows your friends with an apple device to view shared albums.

Does iCloud Photo Library syncronise ALBUMS across devices?

It is not clear whether the iCloud Photo Library synchronises ALBUMS across iOS devices. NOT just photos - the Photo Stream does that but I have several dozen albums on one iPad and I want the to be recreated on another iOS devices automatically.
Can anyone actually answer this question? It seems simple enough.
Here is what I want to happen after configuring the system:-
The existing albums on iPad A appear on iPad B automatically.
Changes to an album on either A or B are reflected on the other device.
A new album created on either device appears on the other device.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks
ELKAY

Ok. At last I have it. And as far as I can tell my problem can't be solved automatically
As far as I can tel. most existing Albums (which aren't in the iCloud) don't get re-created or synchronised. All albums on your iPad will be deleted (although oddly for me, there are three out of 70 that seem to have been kept).
Turning on iCloud Photo Library turns it on for all devices that have the same Apple ID, and that are on a compatible version of the iOS. Any new album that is created on any device that is part of the iCloud photo library will be synced to other devices.
My approach has been to disconnect one of my iPads from the network which has all my albums and I will work through one album at a time recreating it and adding the selected photos to the album.
Much remains unclear (such as what happens to edits made on a iPad) and for a company whose story is all about ease of use, this has been a very opaque and nerve-racking experience - strating with the hair-raising message when you turn it on about deleting photos from iTunes. Before getting into the iCloud 'dream' I backed up all my photos from all devices to DropBox and from there to a USD drive.
The Photo-stream is another problem - no proper explanation of anything from the vendor - who knows where the images actually reside, and when they will disappear!
My next move is to look at Picasa as an alternative to this half-baked Apple vision.
ELKAY

ICloud Photo Library (beta) - how does it work?

8.0.2 has an option to enable iCloud Photo Library (beta), I am trying to understand how it works before I turn it on...
The description says it will auto-upload the entire iPhoto Library to iCloud so other devices that can access these photos by using the same Apple ID. It also has sub-option to keep original photo or keep optimized photo on the device. So questions:
1. This feature seems to do what Photo Stream does, will new taken photos be auto-sent to iCloud and Photo Stream?
2. Does iCloud Photo Library count iCloud storage?
3. Those albums synced with iTunes, will they be uploaded to iCloud Photo Library, and no longer sync with iTunes? Will they be deleted from devices? Will the iTunes Photo Sync selections be disabled?
4. Here "iPhoto Library" refers to the photo library on devices only, or it includes the Photo Library on computer? My Mac iPhoto/Aperture also signs in the same Apple ID, will those photos on my Mac be auto-uploaded to iCloud?
5. Presently I sync selected photos to devices via iTunes, if iTunes Sync is disabled after enabled iCloud Photo Library, how can I send selected photos to devices?
Thanks

2-factor authentication sounds good but what if in the cloud sends your photos to someone else's account?
yeah I know sounds like someone with no idea about how these things work, well please read on.
i posted this last night on tis same forum, and have not received any help on it so far:
subject: Major security issue! I can see 100's of other peoples photos, Help!
Oct 1, 2014 4:39 AM
Using iPad Mini / iPhone 4S
I have just recently enabled the iCloud Photo Library (Beta). I also use MS Onedrive and i have it setup to automatically backup all my photos and      videos from both my iOS devices.
Today i opened Onedrive for no particular reason and clicked on the Photos tab, this shows the progress of photos being backed up, only this time i      scrolled down to find that there was hundreds of photos from different families mixed in with mine dating back to 2002! Naturally the first thing i am      thinking is who is looking at my photos/files. What is going on!!!!
Let me just assure anyone reading this, that the owner of these photographs would not appreciate anyone else having them, these are Kindergarten,      public school and family photos of complete strangers. and all my photos are mixed in between them.
Is anyone else having this issue
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular (MM), iOS 8, iOS 8.0.2

How does iCloud Photo Library backup photos & save iCloud space

I was reading about how to free up some space on my iCloud account (5GB).
Since the Camera Roll is the only thing that is backed up to iCloud, I would periodically import all my photos to iPhoto and delete them from my device. This would make the Camera Roll pictures move over to my other albums which are NOT backed up to iCloud. Now I ran into some apple documentation which explains what exactly gets backed up on an iOS device and its reads like this:
Photos and videos on your iOS devices, unless you turn on iCloud Photo Library beta on your iOS 8.1 device. If you turn on iCloud Photo Library beta, your photos and videos are already stored in iCloud, so they aren’t included in your iCloud Backup.
So basically if I turn on this iCloud Photo Library on my iOS device, it won't back up any photos to iCloud, because they are already stored in iCloud? What does that mean? Is this going to free up some iCloud space if I turn it on on my device? If so, how exactly does it work that will save me space?
Thanks

santiagofrommiami wrote:
And of those 4.3GB of backup, my Photo Library is 1.4GB.
So my question is, how do I prevent my Photo Library from being backed up to the cloud, since I already have a backup of it everytime I connect to iPhoto and it copies all those photos to my mac?
I don't know, sorry. It's supposed to work alongside Photos & iCloud, so that photos are stored only once. When it doesn't work you have a couple of options as I see it –
Delete the old backups on iCloud to hopefully start over (I don't like deleting the only backup of anything).
Forget about iCloud backups & use iTunes to backup instead, it might not be suitable if you have no computer etc.
Buy more storage for iCloud.
I don't use iCloud backup, it bemuses me with issues like this, there is no easy way to resolve when it fails.
And one more question while we are at it...can I erase iphoto from my computer now that I have the new Photos app?
That is up to you. If you are happy you do not need it & have a backup of it go ahead & remove it. You can re-download it from the app store if it is already in your Mac App store account.

How does iCloud Photo Library and Optimize iPhone Storage Work?

Even Apple Phone support can't answer these questions:
How does iCloud Photo Library (Beta) from yesterday's 8.1 update with Optimize iPhone Storage turned on work? (I'm on an iPhone 6)
It only stores your iPhone/iPad versions on your device, which is amazing. Why would you need anything else? It freed up around 8-10GB of space on my device which is amazing. But how does it work when you use it?
When you email it seems to ask you, when sending what size you want to send like it's always done. It gives you the original 2.4MB version. This works like I'd imagine and when I received the test email the photo was correct. In this case I assume it hits iCloud and sends it from there, not your actual device. (Like it doesn't re-download it to email it). Correct?
When posting to Facebook, does it do this same thing? Or is this something Facebook has to build into their iOS app in an update? Or does it just work? Correct?
When posting to Instagram, does it grab the right version. Obviously the phone optimized version should be fine, but when viewing on a Desktop version of Instagram at instagram.com, will it show the right version?
Sometimes I backup photos using Image Capture on the Mac. If I did that right now, would it only grab the iPhone versions? Obviously I can just test it but it'd be amazing if someone who knows these things could explain all of these use cases.
Do you need to be on
In closing it's more of how does this work? Does it work? Why wouldn't you want to use this feature if it saved space and made more sense? I guess I just would love some real clarity since not even the blogs are explaining how it works in every application.
In closing part 2. It does seem to work really well, it's just those fringe cases. I just viewed all my photos on https://beta.icloud.com/#photos and they're all there, easy download of the high res, delete, it deletes from my camera roll on my phone, it's amazing, it works, it's magic. Just tell me what issues there are with storing only low res iPhone on my device and if there are none, game on!
Thanks!

santiagofrommiami wrote:
And of those 4.3GB of backup, my Photo Library is 1.4GB.
So my question is, how do I prevent my Photo Library from being backed up to the cloud, since I already have a backup of it everytime I connect to iPhoto and it copies all those photos to my mac?
I don't know, sorry. It's supposed to work alongside Photos & iCloud, so that photos are stored only once. When it doesn't work you have a couple of options as I see it –
Delete the old backups on iCloud to hopefully start over (I don't like deleting the only backup of anything).
Forget about iCloud backups & use iTunes to backup instead, it might not be suitable if you have no computer etc.
Buy more storage for iCloud.
I don't use iCloud backup, it bemuses me with issues like this, there is no easy way to resolve when it fails.
And one more question while we are at it...can I erase iphoto from my computer now that I have the new Photos app?
That is up to you. If you are happy you do not need it & have a backup of it go ahead & remove it. You can re-download it from the app store if it is already in your Mac App store account.

Moving Photos from iCloud Photo Library to Local Storage

Scenario - I've a fully migrated library of photos/videos using iCloud Photo Library on iPhone and Mac. It's near the limit of the iCloud storage plan I purchased and want to retain. I'd like to move older and less frequently used content from iCloud Photo Library to more permanent archival storage.
[This is for two reasons. First, I prefer to use the Full Resolution setting on mobile devices, and that will be impossible as the entire library grows beyond the storage capacity of even the largest mobile devices. Second, I don't feel the need to pay for super-sized iCloud storage for content rarely needed and only needed on a Mac.]
The only option I've identified in Photos to do this is to Export (and delete from iCloud), which exports the original photos, but does not preserve useful Photos metadata and organization, such as Albums.
What one would might like to see is a way to designate selection portions of the Library for local storage only (including backup within the Photos app library package), so those photos can be manipulated within Photos alongside iCloud content, but don't consume iCloud or mobile device space. Or, in the alternative, one would like to see a way to Export content to merge into a separate Photos library package, preserving the metadata/organization. In that way, one could maintain one Photos library as current iCloud synced content, and one or more local-only Photos library packages with archival content (with, importantly, the Export function to move content between the two preserving metadata).
Does anyone know if there's a way to do this? If not, Apple, would you consider coming up with a way to address this need?

{quote:title=Nissin101 wrote @ 3:36pm EMT:}{quote}
Well I was able to move photos from the camera roll to the photo library by sending *the pictures via email to my dad's blackberry, then saving them to my computer from his phone, then putting them back on into the photo library*.
This is what I said originally.
{quote:title=Nissin101 wrote @ 4:08pm EMT:}{quote}
Alright I guess that answers my question then. However, just as I said I was able to transfer photos from my camera roll to my photo library, so at least that is possible.
I never said that I did it directly, neither did I mean to imply that I was looking for a direct solution. This I guess is where our misunderstanding comes from. I just did not feel like repeating the whole process I went through. Regardless, I would rather this thread not derail into who said what and whose misunderstanding who. I now know that it is not possible to get pictures from the photo library to the camera roll in any way, so my question is answered for now at least.

IPhone video sync quality to iphoto after iCloud photo library enabled

I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this works.
Since I opted to enable my iPhone 6 to optimize videos and photos that are stored locally on my phone, I presume this means that after I record a video, this will be synced to iCloud photo library in full quality, and thereafter removed from my phone, only to be replaced by a compressed version of the same video, and thereby reducing the amount of space needed on the phone to store the video in question. Correct?
If so, why is the result of a manual sync with iPhoto a couple days after enabling the feature, all my videos in full resolution? I mean framerate, data rate and resolution is the same as it always has been and doesn't seem compressed in any way. I know how iCloud would compress the file because of the current download bug on iCloud.com also discussed on this forum that only makes it possible to download the compressed version of the videos even though it seems to store them in full quality. The compressed version is only 720p and about 3500kb data rate.
Any clues? Maybe it's just a beta bug. I mean the videos on my phone should all be a compressed since I can see the at iCloud.com and thereby also sync to iPhoto in compressed form.

Because IMO Apple has never cracked photo management, I organise all my photos on my MacBook and sync the photo's folder to my iPad and iPhone via iTunes. This gives me the organisation I require, but it means I cannot do much at all with the synced folder except view the photos on my iPad and iPhone.
I just enabled the iCloud Photo Library on my iPhone, this deleted all the iTunes synced folders from my device, I expected it to upload all those photos to the cloud and then delete them from the device, but it actually just deleted them all and uploaded a few odd's and sods I had in my camera roll.
I am currently unsure how to get my main photo library into the cloud as the Photos app is not yet available for Mac!
So do not enable it if you manage your photos like me and you want your back catalogue!!
I am very hopeful that Apple is about to crack photos management in an MASSIVE way, but until the Mac Photos's app come out continuity between iOS and Mac OS is still very broken.

ICloud photo library size

Hi all,
I just have a quick question regarding iCloud photo library size.
What happens when the iCloud photo library is larger than the space on my iPhone?
My iCloud photo library size is 4gb (I am still within the free 5gb) however, the space on my phone is under 4gb.
All of my photos have been uploaded on the iCloud photo library beta for Mac/ Yosemite.
I'm aware that there are 2 options within the iCloud - Photos menu which are "Optimise iPhone Storage" or "Download and Keep originals"
Now I thought that regardless of which option you selected they would still store a local copy on your iPhone, but what happens when even the optimised versions take up more space than your phone can handle?
Sorry if I'm being a bit slow here, I'm just slightly puzzled by this one.
Thanks

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One lesser-known feature of iCloud documents (I can't speak for Photos quite yet) is that storage on your iOS devices is dynamically managed - if a document hasn't been accessed from the iOS device in a long time, it will automatically be removed if space is needed (the way RAM is managed on a Mac) - all you have on the iOS device at that point is document metadata (title, etc.). If/when you need to access it again, it'll be re-downloaded. Note that it's different on a Mac - every iCloud document is cached on your Mac - I guess the assumption is that you have the space, and that accessing documents while working offline/off the grid is more important to someone who's using a laptop.
I expect iCloud Photo Library will work similarly, if not identically: On iOS a thumbnail of everything, larger images of items that are actually opened and viewed. If available storage starts to dwindle, the higher-res versions of the least-frequently viewed items will be removed until they're called for again. On Mac, a complete cache of everything, at full resolution.

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