Icon Creation Question -- What format are custom shaped icons saved as?

I have Adobe Photoshop CS and Adobe Illustrator CS. I am assuming that one of those are able to create custom shaped icon format images for using on Mac folders.
I am able to save usable icons for folders as .psd format.
However, they are always square or rectangular, with a blank background around a non-square/non-rectangular image.
I'm not able (don't know how) to save icons as custom shapes that only appear as the custom shape when in use on a folder.
Examples
The .psd file in Photoshop is only the blue disc shape, but when it's saved, the white background is added by default.
.psd format image being used as icon on a Mac folder
http://aycu04.webshots.com/image/11643/2005780580547335471_rs.jpg
Info box of the .psd image, when copying the small top-left icon image to paste over the top-left default folder icon image in the default folder's Info box
http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/10335/2005722217103974447_rs.jpg
A randomly selected custom iPod icon that was downloaded from an Icon website, already on a folder
http://aycu23.webshots.com/image/11302/2001094680500985005_rs.jpg
Info box of folder
http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/9890/2001025358503314932_rs.jpg
I know how to use the Save for Web feature in Photoshop using the .png-24 selection which produces a transparent background, but that format doesn't work for icons.
What format(s) do I need to save images as to use as custom shaped icons on Mac folders?
A detailed reply would be very appreciated.
17" iMac G4, 1GHz PowerPC, 768mb RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

The easiest way to get what you want is try Iconographer:
http://www.mscape.com/products/iconographer.html
It is quick, easy and a mere $15. You can do it "by hand" but it can get a bit complicated or iffy.
1. Create the icon you want in Photoshop, format is 128x128 pixels at 72dpi.
2. Make sure you have a transparent background layer, flatten the file
3. Save as a tif file: myicon.tif
4. Launch Terminal and type the command:
tiff2icns /path/to/myicon.tif
You can get Terminal to fill in the path for you, just put a space after the command, then drag the file into the Terminal window and drop it.
Hit the Return key. With luck you will have a new file "myicon.icns" with the transparency preserved.
5. Actually using your icon requires the icns file to actually display the icon so you can copy it from the GetInfo window. The only sensible way to do this is to download the freeware program icns2icon:
http://www.icons.cx/goodies/
6. Launch icns2icon and drop your new icon file on it. Now when you do GetInfo on the file there will be an icon to copy.
Iconographer is easier and better. If you want to make a bunch of custom icons with transparent backgrounds it is well worth the 15 bucks.
Francine
Francine
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