ICurve or iLap?

I'm having trouble deciding which laptop holder I should buy. I would like the extra space for a keyboard, mouse, and external display. Does anyone have any first hand experience with both or even one of these laptop stands?
Thanks

Boyle's Law.
Essentially your cool air underneath the computer is a place for the heat to dissipate to. The underside of the computer being metal on a Powerbook is a very good heat conductor. And there are vents on all Mac computers. You are as much pushing the hot air out as trying to let cool air in to the point of equilibrium on anything that conducts heat. If there is nothing to let the heat dissipate, a solid that is not a good heat conductor, the heat will just stay where it is. Air being an excellent conductor of heat, being it is pretty much all gaseous anyway will let any heat dissipate from the computer that wouldn't otherwise. The key is to have a good heat conductor under areas of the computer that make heat. If there is none, that is a problem.

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