IDE Channel set up advise ?

I have always understood that the optimum IDE set up is to keep hard drives together and CDROM's and DVD together. I understood that if I combined the CDROM on the same IDE as a HD, that the IDE speed would be reduced to the lowest common demoninator (DMA33), hence I've kept them separate.
My current setup,
Primary Master = OS / Boot hard drive (DMA100)
Primary Slave = Download / backup hard drive (DMA133)
Secondary Master = CDROM-RW (DMA33)
Secondary Slave = spare (future DVD-RW)
A recent magazine article (CPU) recommended the opposite, that I place the second HD on the secondary channel and the CDROM on either channel, but preferably the primary.
Since I use the second drive for downloads and backups this makes some sense as backing up the primary HD I would be reading and writing on the same channel (as now) and the internet connection restricts my download speeds more than DMA33 would.
All thoughts, ideas and recommendations welcome. I'm also thinking of adding a DVD-RW at some point so advice for the future config would be appreciated.

Because there is many opinions out there and every system is more or less different I think the only way to find out is to benchmark every reasonable configuration.
If you try configuration you have now (2 harddrives on one channel) you may want to put the faster harddrive (DMA133) as a primary master. I read somewhere that faster drive should be a master.
Also, if you copy files from within the same IDE channel you will get slower transfers. Copying CDs/DVDs at high speeds within the same IDE channel without making temporary file is not recommended.
The answer is not simple :(
I had this issue some time ago and thought about it a lot. Finally, I bought an extra IDE controller and now I have 4 masters :D (2 HDDs, DVD drive, DVD burner). This costs an extra 50 bucks, but everything is smooth now and I am getting maximal transfer from each of my guys :D .

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The k9n only has a single IDE channel, but my dvd drive will only seem to work when I have it set as the Primary Master. Does this particularly matter ?

Uthred,
Run your DVD Drive as Master on the IDE Cable. If you have an IDE Hard Drive you also want to run on there, try it as slave. (I am guessing it would be a backup HD since you have all the SATA HDs listed in your Sig.)
If the DVD Drive does not like the Slave HD, I would recommend buying a cheap USB 2.0 External Drive Enclosure and putting your backup IDE HD in there and plug it in to a USB Port.
It is a solution.
Take Care,
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Sorry to interrupt this discussion but I feel it goes somehow in wrong direction.
If I understand you right you just want to install WXP on your Satellite A300. Am I right about that?
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What you need is WXP installations CD with integrated SATA driver.
Check please this page . There you can find nice description how to find SATA drivers. At the end you can also find link to guide for "Slipstreaming SATA driver into WinXp boot cd using nLite".
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Need inputs regarding the dvd drive on primary ide channel.

Specs:
Motherboard: MSI P35 Neo3 (MS-7935 1.0)
CPU: Intel Core2 Duo E6550
Memory: Team Elite DDR2800 (2x1GB Dual Channel)
Hard drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB 32MB Cache (SATA)
Optical drive: LG GSA-H55L (IDE only) Firmware version 1.02
Graphics card: Gecube HD3870
Chipset: Intel P35/G33/G31 (Rev. A2)
Southbridge: Intel 82801IB (ICH9)
LPCIO: Fintek F71882F
BIOS: AMI V1.1 (11/07/2007)
Hello,
Almost all new motherboards today only have a primary ide channel and the rest are SATA.
I need inputs regarding the dvd drive which is shown in device manager as located on the primary ide channel while the hard drive is located on the secondary channel. Because I would like to update the dvd drive to the latest firmware (version 1.06; to be able to recognize more blank media) but the LG site recommends that the drive (dvd) be located on the secondary ide channel.
I already tried to uninstall every channel from the device manager but all would still be the same after reboot, dvd drive on primary, hard drive on secondary.
Current ide mode in BIOS is set to AHCI+IDE mode, DMA modes are fine (UDMA4 for dvd, UDMA5 for hard drive), boot sequence (1st=HD, 2nd=DVD, 3rd=Floppy drive)
Tried switching to IDE mode only in BIOS but would not detect the optical drive. Never tried RAID+IDE mode since I only have a single hard drive.
I'm not sure but if I try to update the firmware, it might instead try to update the hard drive's firmware instead of the optical drive and make the hard drive unusable.
I would like to know if anybody with this same situation was able to successfully update the optical drive's firmware or is there some way to place the optical drive on the secondary ide channel and the hard drive on primary for me to follow and replicate the process.
Thank you for any replies.

Thanks sir NovJoe for the reply.
Just received the solution from another forum where I posted the same problem.
They said that the flash program for the firmware will detect the drive on its own and would not flash other devices except the optical drive itself. So its pretty safe, and I can confirm this since I just flashed my ODD a little over a while ago and everything went fine. No errors.
Though I'm speaking for the brand of ODD I own and may be different for other brands so take precautions as well. It may be different for the others.

SATA/IDE channel configuration issues

Ok here's the setup:
First SATA Channel: Seagate 7200RPM 80GB HDD
Primary IDE Channel: LG 52x CD-ROM Drive
Secondary IDE Channel: Western Digital 7200RPM 160GB HDD
OS: Windows XP SP1
Mobo: MSI 865PE Neo2-P MS-6728 Version 2
The bios can detect all drives.
If I use the recommended On-chip IDE Configuration mode as mentioned on page 3-23 in the manual, Windows XP loads and then goes through the process of detecting the Primary and Secondary IDE channel.
After detecting it reports that Windows reports that the "Driver is not intended for this platform".
If you look under Administrative Tools in Control Panel is refuses to detect the PATA drive as well.
I tried swapping the PATA and the CD drives around but the above applied.
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First SATA Channel: Seagate 7200RPM 80GB HDD
Primary IDE Channel Master: LG 52x CD-ROM Drive
Primary IDE Channel Slave: Western Digital 7200RPM 160GB HDD
So what's up? I've tried tinkering around with Legacy/Native, PATA/SATA Only etc and I've run out of ideas.

I got similiar problem as b52 when I plugin an old P-ATA deathstar drive as master on first primary IDE and a LITE-ON dvd-rom as master on secondary. When I enter Windows the hardware auto wiz starts working and after a little while reports that two devices of type "IDE channel" have "Driver is not intended for this platform". I currently use the settings Danny recommends above. Weird thing is both the deathstar and the LITE-ON drive seem to work great. Of course I want to get rid of the exclamation marks in my device manager though. I read elsewhere drive emulation software could be a culprit, and renaming/deleting atapi.sys could be a problem solver - but not for me it turned out. Anyone got other methods to try out?
Elsewhere:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?s=545275f1f62ce2dd760878210076e500&t=860407

Dual boot enviorment on primary IDE channel Diamond Plus tried everything!!

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Hi, Bas
I have tried doing that and I get the same thing when I originally got the new Hitachi drive I put that on master and put the other one on slave already formatted does shiffting the c:\ drive to slave make that kind of impact? Also why is the formatte process for sata successful and the IDE is not? Its recommended on these forums that every time you ad a os you should remove all drives that has windows already installed ,does that apply only to sata drives?

Reconnecting to channel set after lost connection

Hi there,
I am beginner to flex and I have a problem with to login after the connection to the BlaseDS has been lost.
Setup:
The flex client calls a HelloWorld Java service exposed using spring-flex. This service is called when the user hit the Hello World button on the UI. The channel set on which this service is exposed is secured and for now we will resort to programmatic authentication. (The user does is not required to input his username and password, just to simplify it a bit).
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I restart the BlaseDS server to simulate an intermittent connection.
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faultCode=Client.Authentication
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        if (charset != Base64Encoder.CHARSET_UTF_8);
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Regards,
Mark

bump! Anyone knows how to solve this?

FIS2R RAID as 3rd IDE channel?

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K9N SLI Platinum - IDE Channel Not Working

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This is my first post... so forgive any dumb stuff.
I build a new PC every couple years for normal home use... little or no overclocking. I have worked in the computer and PC business for 30+ years... so I am fairly competent in this stuff. I am having trouble with my current project.
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I purchased a KT7A Pro board. Upon installing it I found that I could not get the secondary IDE channel to recognize my drives.
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I've tried every drive configuration under the sun, swapping cables, trying drives one by one, enabling and disabling random things that should have nothing do with the price of rice in china, but nothing. Any clues would help, I can't keep taking boards back to the store.

IDE Channel Problem?

Some background...my computer went down because the motherboard went out. I installed a new one and it was DOA...so I went with an MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS (Platinum Edition). I got it up and running and everything is great except I get the following...
Currently, I have 2 HD's on the main IDE channel, 1 DVD-RW and 1 DVD-Rom on IDE channel 2. I have a third IDE HD with an SATA converter on it hooked up to my SATA 1 port. It registers fine and I can access all of the data. I just keep getting this error. When I disable it in the Device Manager, my "SATA" drive goes away.
By the way, I use the computer for music recording. I don't want to hook my HD up as a slave to an optical as this could cause problems. This config worked fine on my other mobo.
Any help is appreciated.
Windows XP Pro w/SP2
Intel P4 3.0Ghz w/HT
2GB Kingston Hyper X RAM

Quote from: Maesus on 04-March-06, 01:15:46
Is your WinXP newly installed with this motherboard?
It could be the SATA converter you probably need a better driver for it. Can you tell more about this SATA converter that you have?
No, it is the same installation that was on the drive prior to the new motherboard. Could I simply re-install the OS and clear this problem up without having to reformat the drive?
Oh, and here's the URL for the exact SATA converter I have.
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[svn] 4290: Bug: BLZ-288 - Consumer is only receiving first pushed message when Consumer and RemoteObject that is used to push the messages use different channel sets but same channel .

Revision: 4290
Author: [email protected]
Date: 2008-12-11 14:24:37 -0800 (Thu, 11 Dec 2008)
Log Message:
Bug: BLZ-288 - Consumer is only receiving first pushed message when Consumer and RemoteObject that is used to push the messages use different channel sets but same channel.
QA: Yes
Doc: No
Checkintests Pass: Yes
Details:
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Ticket Links:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/BLZ-288
Modified Paths:
flex/sdk/trunk/frameworks/projects/rpc/src/mx/messaging/ConsumerMessageDispatcher.as

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Best wireless channel setting for desktop PC, PC l...

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I have the latest BT infinity home hub for over a year. I have all those devices and computers listed in the subject. I have probelm getting wireless connection on all devices working at the same time.
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