IDE drives not mouting

I have four Hard drives that were internally mounted in my old G4. When I got my macbook - I got rid of the G4 tower- but I removed all my internal drives- b/c they were 7200 rpms used for video editing and the like. I bought a cable similar to this
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-30504-Serial-Adapter/dp/B000UO6C5S/ref=sr16?ie=UTF8&qid=1293912342&sr=8-6
I cant get any of the drives to mount- at least not consistently. They have randomly mounted a few times but overall i plug it in and nothing is happening.
The four drives are -
seagate barracuda 7200.7
momentus 5400
two ibm deskstars
I'm wondering if there are any steps I could take to trouble shoot this. I thought about firmware update but would that even matter if the drive is not mounting at all? I don't need data off these I just want to get them usable and possibly get an encolsure for them at some point.

I'm also not sure about whether to use jumpers at all or not. Since I am only using one drive at a time I was thinking no jumpers would be needed.
Set the drive jumpers to Master.
For the smaller drive- with nowhere to plug in power- there are two USB cords forking off the cable- the red one I think somehow generates power.
The computer USB ports may not provide enough power for a 7200 RPM drive. One of the USB cables (see if the manual says which) is just for extra power. Try plugging it into a iPad or iPhone charger. Those chargers can provide more power than a computer USB port.

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Quote from: Supershanks on 14-June-05, 05:49:23
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