IDE problem on NEO board

Hi all.
I just got a NEO FIS2K board today and built a new system using it. Everything works great excpet one thing. Apparently the IDE1 channel is not working because anything I plug into it is not detected in the CMOS. I currently have a Western Digital Raptor 10,000rpm SATA hard drive plugged into SATA1, a Artec DVD-ROM plugged into IDE1 and an IBM Deskstar 180gb hard drive plugged into IDE2. Currently the IBM drive is showing up but the DVD-ROM isn't and if I swap the plugs, the DVD-ROM shows up but the hard drive doesn't. I am not sure what is going on here and would appreciate any help.
Marc

Well... it turns out there was a very simple solution which I found by reading through a bunch of other posts. Apparently if you set the IDE controller to legacy mode you lose one of the IDE channels. The thing is, I had to set it to legacy mode to get the windows XP install to find my SATA hard drive even after installing the drivers by hitting F6.
In other words, if you want to be able to use both IDE1 and IDE2 along with SATA you must use legacy mode when installing Windows XP and have your CD/DVD drive on IDE2 with your SATA hard drive on SER1. Once you get windows XP installed, switch over to native mode and IDE1 will then become available.
Thanks to everyone that tried to help.
Marc

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875p neo board problems

having problems with this board, press power, d lights keep cycling and no screen on monitor, if i clear cmos with jumper and replace, system will boot but say cmos settings incorrect, i go into the bios, set the different settings, save them and then it starts all over again, no screen, d bracket lights just cycling and not stopping on anything to trace problem.
if i select bios defaults the system will boot but say the processor is 2.99 ghz instead of 3.0 ghz, but on restart it starts with problems again
i have put my other 875 neo board in and had no problems. any help would be grateful
mark

I have the same mobo and the last days i look a lot of things about it.
If one of your hdd is sata check to the bios settings integrated peripherals to change the ide configuration (Choose PATA+SATA). Then boot again the system and go again to the bios. Choose the standard settings (if i dont make mistake) and you must see all the hdd's you have and dvd-rom's. Also disable the quick boot and the logo. When you restart the system look the first screen and with one Fkey (you will see it to the first screen) you can choose the first boot device.To the top of the first screen you can also see your bios release. If your disk is ready from your previous motherboard then you must see the o/s loading.
Please tell me if it works.
Dimitris.

K8N Neo Platinum IDE problem

I got everything installed just fine and all is well booting into windows. I then install all the chipset drivers on the cd and reboot. The next time I put a cd in my rom to install a program it takes forever for it to read the cd and also windows gets really slow. I spent a while trying to figure out what was wrong and finally reinstalled windows again. And again same thing, as soon as I install the chipset drivers my Rom goes wack and windows is super slow. So I uninstalled the IDE drivers that the disk installed and let windows install its own drivers and WAAA LAAA problem solved. By the way I use a sata hard drive and the only thing on the ide is my dvd burner. Thats the only optical drive I have. Anybody else have this problem? I even tryed the new 5.10 drivers and same thing.

I've had ide problems with the nforce ide drivers. The windows set always has worked for me. I had to try a few different versions and ended up having version 5.10.2600.412 work for me.
If you are deadset on nforce drivers then that may help if you try other versions but if not the windows drivers seems to not have any problems.

NEO Boards Unofficial FAQ rev 4/05/2004 - two lights on "P" series

Hi all,
I'll start maintaining this Unofficial FAQ for the NEO boards. The contents of this FAQ are compiled from this forum, user's posted problems, usage issues, compatibility issues reported on the net etc. However, MSI does not responsible for the validity of this FAQ. Please take note.
1. BIOS
Q: I flashed the BIOS and caused my motherboard dead. Can I RMA the board?
A: This does not happen easily. Please be sure you follow the BIOS flashing instruction and wait for the BIOS flashing process to be fully completed before you restart the PC.
If this problem is caused by the recent bios 1.3 for the Intel875 ( MS6758 ) chipset, then he could ask for RMA from MSI Branch offices for Free.
If not caused by the 1.3 BIOS, they can still go through the normal RMA process. Please check with MSI branches.
Q: What is the MSI statement for the bad BIOS flash?
YES. This is the statement :Quote
When you update the bios to v1.4 using the latest flash utility, it will show "Erasing Done and then Programming Done". But actually the process has not been finished yet, you will need to wait about 30 seconds and then the message of "Flash Complete..." is showing up, this will complete the flash process.
By doing this, end user will assume when it display "Programming Done" message, it has complete the flash process which is wrong. We need to wait until the "Flash Complete..." message has displayed on the screen in order for completing the flash process.
By any chance we can remove the message of "Programming Done" and only prompt for "Flash Complete..." so customer will not turn off the system or reboot the system when they see "Programming Done" message pop on the screen?
The new version ADSFI708.EXE has fixed this issue. When you finish the BIOS , it will show the "Verifying the ROM data now" message before it showed up the "Flash Complete".
In short, use ADSFI708.EXE to flash the BIOS.
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Q: Where can I get beta BIOS?
MSI do not support beta BIOS. Use at your own risk. Under special condition such as hardware incompatibility issues and a beta BIOS is a feasible resolution, please post in the forum and let the mods arrange for you.
Latest BIOS:
Released:
875P Neo : 1.9
865PE Neo2 : 1.9
865PE Neo2-PS : 3.3 New![/B]
beta BIOS:
875P Neo : 1.9B6 link1 [Thanks to FlyTSI for hosting]
History: NO INFO PROVIDED FOR 1.9B6
865PE Neo2 : 2.01B link [thanks to FlyTSI]
History:Support Extreme OSB logo. Display L3 cache. Support Prescott cpu & update microcode. Modify Prescott ratio programming.
DO NOT APPROACH THE MODS FOR BETA BIOS! WE DO NOT DISTRIBUTE BETA BIOS!!
Q: What is the best BIOS setting for my board?
A: The optimal BIOS setting is different for each system. It's recommended to read more about the BIOS settings, from the board's manual, and some good guides like this : link.
2. Overclocking
Q:I cannot overclock my system. Can MSI update the BIOS so I can overclock?
A: This board can overclock, but overclocking depends on the peripherals that you are using like memory, CPU, heatsink etc.
Q: Which board has Dynamic Overclocking Technology?
A: Currently only 865PE Neo2-FIS2R
Q: How to disable dynamic overclocking?
A:Yes, you can disable Dynamic clocking directly in the bios setup.
3. CoreCell Technology
Q: which product has CoreCell technology built-in?
A: 875P Neo (MS-6758), 865GE Neo2 (MS-6728) & 865PE Neo2 (MS-6728)
Q: Can I assume that boards with CoreCell chip to have D.O.T ?
NO
Q: Where are the locations of temperature sensors?
CPU - taken directly from CPU pin (same as AMD thermal pin.
System - RT2 (near winbond I/O) same for 875/865 series boards.
4. RAM
Q: I have this RAM xxxx but it does not work with my board. Can MSI update the BIOS to fix this?
A: We would suggest you to use the MSI recommended memory for this part as there are a lot of memory brands out there we can't guarantee that all will work with the MB. Please go to the Product Info page, click "Test Report" and choose "Memory Modules".
For example, 875P : Here and select Memory Modules.
Q: My RAM performance is slow, the benchmark software such as PC Mark, Sisoft etc results are below par compared to other brands. WHY?
A: This issue has been identified. New BIOS update has fixed this problem. Please update to the latest BIOS.
Q: Is there any workaround?
A: There are users here share valueable information of how they tweak their BIOS to achieve good results. Kudos to them! :D Take a look at this link.
Q: What is MAT?
Memory Acceleration Technology. More to read here! Please read all to get the whole idea. You should have the idea what actually it is. :D
Q: Why my Neo2-S/LS doesn't have MAT?!
GOOD NEWS!! After first week of July, the new BIOS release will enable MAT in all Neo2 boards!
Q: What about DOT?
OK. Here is the answer:
Additional Info for MAT support:
MS-6728 BIOS V1.3 (All 865PE will support)
(Note: No MAT option for 865G due to limitation) Though the 865G have no support for MAT but if you insert AGP VGA card, you could still avail of this function!!
DOT support:
MS-6728, for exist boards, only full version supports it
Q: I want to have both MAT and DOT, can I do that?
Of course you can. However, the amount of setting you can used would depend on your current configurations. The suggested stable configuration if MAT as Fast & DOT as Captain
Q: Then what is PAT?
This is what I found in the forum, written by Assaf.
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Here's what I understand about PAT.
As you may or may not know adding pipline stages to any execution unit will allow you to run it at a higher frequency but it will increase the latancy from start to end (measured in clock pulses).
Now, in order to ensure reliable operation at 800MHz FSB intel added 2 pipline stages to the memory controller (as based on the original dual memory controller in the E7205 chipset)
This they called i865PE and it will only put into action these 2 stages when 800MHz FSB is applied (which it needs the bios to tell it is the case)
Intel take the better yealdes of 865PE and validate them for 800MHz with the 2 extra stages disabled.
These they call 875P.
A 875P bios with PAT enabled simply does not "tell" the chipset it it running at 800MHz so the extra stages are inactive thus reducing latancy relative to a situation where these stages were activated.
A hacked 865PE bios will simply follow the 875P bios rule of not notifing the chipset it is running at 800MHz.
PAT is not an optimization, it's a de-un-optimization
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Q: Can 875P/865PE boards support DDR266 RAM for 800MHz FSB CPU?
Yes, although the product webpage did not highlight DDR266.
Q: My Kingston HyperX RAM always cause errors with 875/865 board!
Known issue. Please read here: http://www.kingston.com/support/faqs/memory/intel_3.asp
Q: My system does not run stably with DDR400
A: Set DDR Voltage to 2.7V and above for DDR400, regardless what the RAM manufacturer advertised.
Q: How to set different FSB:DDR ratio? I can't find in the BIOS
The FSB:DDR ratio can be changed by setting DDR Clock [266,333,400,500,533]. However, your processor's default FSB will affect the ratio. Follow this table:
FSB DDR ratio
133 266 1:1
133 333 4:5
133 400 2:3
133 466 -
133 500 -
133 533 -
200 266 3:2
200 333 5:4
200 400 1:1
200 466 -
200 500 4:5
200 533 3:4
If you have 800FSB (200Mhz) CPU, use FSB200 table. If you have 533FSB (133MHz) CPU, use FSB133 table to get the ratio. Ratio "-" is not available and out of chipset limit.
Examples:
1. DDR400 overclock P4 2.4GHz to 3.0GHz. Ratio 5:4. FSB:250MHz. DDR Clock : 333MHz
2. DDR333 overclock P4 2.4GHz to 3.0GHz. Ratio 3:2. FSB:250MHz. DDR Clock : 266MHz
3. DDR500 Pr default. Ratio 4:5. FSB:200MHz. DDR Clock: 500MHz.
5. HDDs
Q: Can Promise RAID support 2 PATA + 2 SATA = total of 4 HDDs for a single RAID array? RAID-0? RAID-1? RAID-0+1?
Yes, Promise RAID support 2 PATA + 2 SATA (RAID-0 or RAID-1 or RAID-0+1)
Q: Does ICH5R's SATA controller support RAID?
Yes, but only ICH5R, not ICH5. Update: MSI has released beta BIOS 1.81B with ICH5R RAID-1 support. Check the link above in the BIOS section.
Q: My HDD LED doesn't lit!!!
As what I have been told that the HDD LED only lit when there are activities in IDE Primary and Secondary channels. No support for ICH5's SATA and/or Promise SATA activities yet. In other words, the HDD LED will not lit and indicate any activities for your SATA drives.
Q: What is SATA? What is PATA?
SATA = Serial ATA. There was no such "PATA" acronym before. After Serial ATA appeared, people started to find IDE as opposing to Serial ATA, and hence called IDE as "Parallel ATA" or PATA.
Q: I enable SATA in BIOS but I didn't see any SATA Controller listed in the Device Manager!
You will see two sets of IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers - Intel 82801EB Ultra ATA Controller x2, Primary IDE Channel x2, Secondary IDE Channel x2. That's how Windows installed the drivers.
Q: How should I install my HDD for RAID configuration?
Note that the Promise RAID controller only controls IDE-3, SER-3 and SER-4 ports. Make sure you have your HDDs connected to these ports. Make sure you have enabled "Onboard Promise IDE" in the BIOS. Then after the POST screen, press CTRL-F once prompted and go to the RAID setup screen to setup your RAID configuration.
While the ICH5R controls IDE-1, IDE-2, SER-1 and SER-2. For ICH5R, only SER-1 and SER-2 can be set as RAID. So make sure your SATA HDDs are connected to SER-1 and SER-2. But make sure you have enabled "Configure SATA as RAID" in the BIOS. After the POST screen, press CTRL-I once prompted and go to the ICH5R RAID setup screen to setup your RAID configuration.
For more comprehensive RAID setup guide, please read this guide written by vango44. Great contribution!!
Q: My SATA HDD always gives me errors, data corruptions and can't boot!!
Check the SATA HDD's bridge chip with a "M" logo, the chip build has to be B5P and above, not B2P/B3P which are known to be buggy. B4P is OK but B5P is better. Maxtor and Western Digital SATA HDDs are known to use this bridge chip. Seagate Barracuda V uses different bridge chip and does not make that much problems compared to Maxtor's. RMA the HDDs if possible. MSI is working on the BIOS to fix this incompatible issues. Get BIOS 1.9B3 or 1.6B2 or above. I have seen around October 2003 that Western Digital HDDs come with B5P bridge chip.
Q: I want to use IDE3 for normal HDD, non-RAID
Set this in the BIOS under Integrated Peripherals:
Onboard Promise IDE : As SATA
Q: What is Legacy mode and what is Native mode?
Legacy mode uses 14 and 15 IRQs. Legacy mode can support up to 2 IDE channels, each IRQ for each channel, which means it can support 2 SATA, or 2 SATA + 2 PATA or 4 PATA. Legacy mode also works comfortably with most OSes including Linux.
Native mode means you may use all available IRQs and can support up to 2 SATA and 4 PATA. Native mode may have issues working with some OSes such as Win9x and Linux, especially on IRQ assignments.If you have Win98/ME, use Legacy mode only!
Q: How to enable both SATA and PATA?
You can use both Legacy mode and Native mode, depending on how many devices you use as described above.
For Legacy Mode:
ATA Configuration: PATA+SATA
S-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes
P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes
PATA Channel Selection: Both
Combined Mode Operation: PATA First/SATA First, depending on which you want to act as 1st Channel.
S-ATA Ports Definition: P0-1st/P1-2nd or P0-3rd/P1-4th, depending on which you want to act as Master.
For Native Mode:
ATA Configuration: SATA Only or PATA only, depending on which you want to be the FIRST BOOT device!
S-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose PATA only
P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose SATA Only
PATA Channel Selection: Both
Combined Mode Operation: PATA First/SATA First, depending on which you want to act as 1st Channel.
S-ATA Ports Definition: - P0-1st/P1-2nd or P0-3rd/P1-4th, depending on which you want to act as Master.
Q: What is S-ATA Ports Definition?
There are two options: P0-1st/P1-2nd and P0-3rd/P1-4th. If you choose P0-1st/P1-2nd, your Port-0 S-ATA (SER-1) will become the 1st IDE Master, ie IDE-1 Master. and Port-1 S-ATA (SER-2) will become 2nd IDE Master. If you plan to boot with SATA HDD, it's recommended to set to P0-1st/P1-2nd. If you plan to boot with PATA HDD, it's recommended to set to P0-3rd/P1-4th.
Q: When I enable SATA+PATA mode, why only IDE-1 or IDE-2 can be used?
If you chose "SATA 1st Channel", IDE-1 will be dropped. If you chose "PATA 1st Channel", IDE-2 will be dropped.
Q: I want my SATA to be the 1st IDE drive in Legacy Mode along with PATA, how?
Set this:
ATA Configuration: PATA+SATA
S-ATA Keep Enabled: don't care
P-ATA Keep Enabled: don't care
PATA Channel Selection: don't care
Combined Mode Operation: SATA 1st Channel
S-ATA Ports Definition: P0-1st/P1-2nd
With this configuration, you can have your SER-1 and SER-2 act as IDE-1 master and slave. But you can only connect your PATA drives on IDE-2 slot.
Q: I am a noob, I want more details.
More info? here
Q: How to support 250GB HDD? Windows only sees up to 134GB.
Follow this instruction: here for Win2000 and WinXP.
Q: I've installed a new SATA HDD, I can find it in Device Manager but it doesn't appear in Windows Explorer at all! HELP!!
You need to format the HDD, not just SATA but also PATA HDD then only Windows Explorer can see it and assign it with a drive letter. To format a HDD, right click on My Computer, select Manage, look for Disk Management. You should see a no-drive-letter unformatted drive there in the list. Get it formatted by right click on it and choose the obvious option there is.
6. Onboard Sound
Q: My onboard sound lost after I overclock the system!
Goto BIOS setup and lock AGP/PCI to 67/33.
7. Universal Serial Bus [Thanks to Danny for contribution]
Q: Why doesn't my board have USB2 ports?
A: The ICH5 and ICH5R chipsets support up to 8 USB2 ports. Under Windows XP when you view your USB settings using Device Manager you will see 4 Intel 82801EB USB Universal Host Controllers and 1 Intel 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller; Windows 2000 is similar, you are looking for "Enhanced". If you don't see "Enhanced" you need to install SP1 for XP or the latest service pack for W2K. If you have these service packs installed and still don't see enhanced, used the Device Manager to remove the 5 controllers and reboot to allow Windows to correctly install the right drivers.
Q: If I have 8 USB2 ports, why does Sandra tell me they are USB1.1?
A: When lower speed devices are plugged in, or high speed devices are plugged in without USB2 operating system support, they are routed to the low speed host controllers. High speed devices are routed directly to the Enhanced host controller when operating system support exists.
Base on http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/manuals/29865602.pdf
8. CPU - contributed by Danny! :biggthumbsup:
Q: I have an 800 FSB Pentium 4 CPU, but the bios is set for 200! If I set it to 800 it crashes! What is wrong?
A: The FSB rating of the CPU is 4 times the FSB rating of the motherboard. To quote Intel: "This is accomplished through a physical signaling scheme of quad pumping the data transfers over a 200 MHz clocked system bus and a buffering scheme allowing for sustained 800 MHz data transfers." So valid settings are 100 for a 400FSB CPU, 133 for a 533FSB CPU and 200 for an 800FSB CPU.
Q: The Windows task manager and the Device Manager show I have two CPU's. What's wrong?
A: Your CPU is a model that has Hyperthreading technology and it is enabled in the bios. To quote Intel: "It allows software programs to "see" two processors and work more efficiently. This new technology enables the processor to execute two series, or threads, of instructions at the same time, thereby improving performance and system responsiveness."
Q: Do these boards support Prescott CPU?
Update: Prescott spec is not finalized. There might be more requirements needed other than meeting FMB guideline. It is hard to say if current motherboards can fully support it. [/color]
This is the latest info from MSI. Check this link here
9. Power Management
Q: What are S1/POS and S3/STR modes?
S1/POS = Power On Suspend, nothing turn off just that everything is running in extremely slow.
S3/STR = Suspend to RAM, PSU only powers 5V_STBY to the board for RAM refreshing, the rest all off.
Additionally,
S4 = Suspend to Disk. Win2k/XP calls it "Hibernation" mode. In this mode, the RAM and CPU state images are copied into the HDD. After S4 mode, you can safely remove the power cord.
S5 = Soft Off. PSU still supplies 5V_STBY.
G3 = mechanical off. No power at all to the board.
Q: Where to set the standby modes?
For S1 and S3, you can set the standby mode to either S1 or S3, not both, in the BIOS. Note that Windows cannot choose which standby mode to run. You have to set it in the BIOS.
For S4, you can only set it in Windows 2k/XP (and ME, but not 98).
10. Others
Q: I have MSI FX5900 which has double sided fans, can it fit in the board?
Most boards can fit the FX5900. Including, the NEOs' MS-6728, MS-6758, and others like KT4A ultra, MS6777 Nvidia board.
Q: Why my NB Temp value is always stay the same?
On 875P Neo and 865PE Neo2, there is no NB temp sensor! The value you read from CoreCenter does not mean anything. Please update to the latest CoreCenter.
Q. What are the two lights on my "P" series board for?
A. These are the Overclock Signal Lights:
1. Green, Green: Both AGP and CPU are dynamic overclocking.
2. Green, Red: The memory is overclocking to 533MHz.
3. Red, Green: The external frequency is overclocking to 350MHz, and the frequency between the north bridge and CPU is 1400MHz.
4. Red, Red: CPU is dynamic overclocking now.
There are more to come soon. Please do not reply or request for FAQ contents in this thread. The FAQ will be picked up from the popular threads. Thanks.
Update History:
6/23/2003 : Added onboard sound lost fix
6/25/2003 : Added HDD LED
6/26/2003 : GOOD NEWS!! MAT to be available in all Neo2 boards!
6/27/2003 : SATA, PATA
7/1/2003 : 865G MAT support!!
7/7/2003 : MAT + DOT support
7/7/2003 : Prescott CPU support
7/7/2003 : DDR266 RAM support for 800MHz FSB CPU
7/17/2003 : Prescott CPU support UPDATED
7/18/2003 : SATA & PATA updated
8/15/2003 : latest BIOS updates
8/15/2003 : RAID-1 support for ICH5R
8/16/2003 : RAID configuration
9/02/2003 : beta BIOS updates - 1.81B
9/03/2003 : beta BIOS update for 865 - 1.52B
10/03/2003 : beta BIOS update for 875 - 1.9B3
10/06/2003 : beta BIOS update for 865 - 1.6B2
10/08/2003 : beta BIOS update for 865 - 1.7B1 link provided
10/13/2003 : minor updates on old issues
10/16/2003 : NB temp sensor?
10/19/2003 : Promise IDE3 for non-RAID function
10/20/2003 : Prescott updates
10/21/2003 : FSB:DDR ratio
11/21/2003 : Legacy, Native mode, SATA+PATA Configuration
12/01/2003 : BIOS 1.9B6 for 875P
12/15/2003 : Prescott Support, 250GB HDD support, BIOS 1.9 FINAL
1/11/2004 : BIOS 2.01B for 865PE Neo2, BIOS 3.30 for 865PE Neo2-P
1/12/2004 : USB 2.0 [thanks to Danny for contribution]
1/26/2004 : SATA + PATA Revisited
1/26/2004 : Added 8. CPU [contributed by Danny]
1/27/2004 : Added formatting SATA HDD in WinXP
1/28/2004 : updated on SATA+PATA and links with Danny, Vango44 and Uruk Hai's contributions :biggthumbsup:
1/28/2004 : Added power management
04/05/2004 : Added two lights on "P" series boards [Danny]

Dear [Maesus],
I have tried to duplicate the issue, I saw it only once when I reflash the BIOS and then change the CPU clock setting.
My procedure as below…
1. Boot system
2. Update BIOS to 1.9 version
3. Restart the system to BIOS setting
4. Change the CPU Bus Clock to 229
5. Save the setting & exit and then the system restart automatically
6. And then I saw the CPU is only running 1.86GHz (my CPU is 3.2GHZ FSB 800MHz)
But I would like to explain that my procedure as above is incorrect.
The correct procedure should be as below….
1. Boot system
2. Update BIOS to 1.9 version
3. Restart the system to BIOS setting
4. Load BIOS setup default first
5. Change the CPU Bus Clock to 229
6. Save the setting & exit and then the system restart automatically
7. And then I saw the CPU is running 3.66GHz (my CPU is 3.2GHZ FSB 800MHz)
Note: To load BIOS setup default setting after reflash BIOS that is because all original default setting will be erase after upgrade BIOS. So we always recommend customers to load BIOS default setting first before change any BIOS setting.
BTW, we have updated the BIOS version to support Prescott CPU. Users can decide to update it or not.
The new release BIOS as attach file.
Best regard!
[MSI Staff]

Help!!! Intel 865P Neo Board

Dear All,
Currently, I've changed my MSI board from Intel 845GE Max-L to 865P Neo Board and seems like I was unable to play games (eg: NFS HP2, C&C General). When I start up the game, after the movies introduction, supposed it will reach the main menu, but it hang there, no display, my monitor power cut off, no sound either. I can't see anything at all.
Everything was running fine, except running games. Should be Intel 865P better than Intel 845GE. Hope you guys can help me solved this problem for me. The BIOS setting is set to default, no overclocking.
I've change my system from:
P4 2.0GHZ
MSI Intel 845GE Max-L
512MB PC2100 (DDR266)
to:
P4 2.53GHz
MSI Intel 865P Neo Board
2X 256MB PC3200 (DDR400) = 512MB
Using the same graphic card:
Hercules 3D Prophet Radeon 8500LE Series (4X AGP Card)
Pls help!!! Thanxs!!!!
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Originally posted by funks
Try forcing your RAM to 266 in the BIOS and see if it works any better..
Any ideas how to do it?? I can\\\'t find any setting for RAM to be set to 266 in the BIOS...
Hmmm, it\'s in one of the menu options (where you can set processor voltage and such)..
There\'s 4 possible settings for it when I looked (266, 333, AUTO, 400)..
Take it off AUTO and set it to 266..
I tried wat you have told me...set to 266MHz
still the same... Monitor power will just cut off. Cannot see anything. Do u guys think is the power supply prob?
I'm using a 300Watt PW. but I was wondering if PW not enough, it will not be able to bootup.

MSI P965 Neo board failure ?

I have the P965 Neo board running perfect for two years, for a few weeks ago the system didn't startup, a long beep sound came from the MB. I opened the case, checked connectors etc. and replaced the memory modules. After that the system runs ok, no problem occurs for almost three weeks.
For a few days ago, out of the blue, the system didn't startup: error message: "WARNING Have option ROM can not be invoke (Vendor ID: 10Ech, Device ID:8167h)"
I reset the system and it passes the POST, the WINDOWS XP splash screen shows up but after a few seconds the blue progress bar stops.
I reset the system again and now the WINDOWS XP splash screen stays fade out, no progress bar
I reset the system several times, after a few times the system normally boots up and is ok.
I tested the HD with Speedfan Smart utility and it is found ok. Also no virus etc is found. I checked the device manager, no driver problems.
Yesterday the system had the same problems (XP boot blue progress bar stops, sometimes the progress is very slow) but after a few restarts the system boots normal and is ok.
Tonight, after I had opened the case to measure the voltages, I startup the system but no problem occurs. The 12V and 5V are ok
I think I have a hardware problem but I'm doubt what hardware (MB,RAM,PSU,processor) causing this kind of problems.
Can you help me ?
thanks,
Herman
My system:
MSI P965 Neo-F
Intel Core2Duo E6400
XFX Geforce 7600GS
DIMM 2x1GB DDR2/533 Nanya
XP SP3
BIOS W7235 IMS V1.5

Quote from: NovJoe on 03-July-09, 21:57:34
Clear CMOS and try booting the system again.
Was the system like this from Day 1 or this only happens after something has been done?
Thks NovJoe ....
The system had run without any problem for more than 2 years.
I presume I have a connection problem on the MOBO or other hardware. If I place the PC case in the cabinet under my desk, the problem occurs. If I have the PC on the floor there is not any problem. It also happens only when the PC is cold.
I asked my hardware supplier, he suggested to test the hardware with a special self booting hardware test CD. It will cost 40 euro. I searched for such a CD on internet but didn't find one special for MSI boards. Do you know where I can get such a CD ?
regards,
Herman

865P Neo board outdated

Hello,
just wondering how come this msi 865p neo board had only 2 bios revision
and it is removed from the product's front page ? Is that because there is nothing
more to update/correct on this mainboard ?

Yeah; You are right...Unfortunately the i865PE came out right after, and there is no market for it anymore, So as far as a New BIOS release :nooo:Unless some unforeseen Problem arises ...........Sean REILLY875

Strange ide problem with 845 ultra

i have got a really strange problem with my 845 ultra board
I have a 2.0 GHz cpu in it, 2x 256MB Nanya CAS2 ddr, , gf4ti and a Realtek nic, onboard audio
ide ports:
primary master: IBM 80GB hdd
primary slave : Lite-On dvd
secundary master: Lite-On 40x cd-rw
Whenever I burn a cd, the whole system hangs while writing the lead-in and lead-out, after that is complete,everything works fine again
Also, when i add files to my Winamp playlist, I always get a general protection fault in Winamp.exe...
And, yes I did check my ram with Memtest86, it is fine
Even a fresh install of either windows 2000 sp3 or windows xp doesn't have any effect, even with all WHQL certified drivers installed
The strange thing is: If I connect all ide devices on a Promise Ultra100 TX2, all problems disappear.
So, is my onboard ide controller dying?
btw, all ide devices work fine in my brothers k7t266 pro2..
edit: fixed it
Never knew that the Intel ide drivers needed to be installed.
I have never needed any ide drivers for any board,so this surprises me.

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Originally posted by wonkanoby
power supply details,make model,combined amps 3.3 and 5 v
Enermax 431W EG465PVE
combined amps
min - 185W
max - 220W

MSI K9N Neo board- and Windows 2003 R2

Hello,
I am having some compatibility issues with running a K9N Neo board and Windows 2003 r2
--I cant get core center to run
--I cant get audio/sound to work, it is all installed except for one thing.
so then i killed by loading XP drivers that it did not like.
Does anyone have a list of the minmum drivers off my CD that i should install to get it going, or are they on the MSI site for W2k3? I could not find them.
This machine works totally fine with XP and Vista.
thanks

That is mostly correct, absolutely. But it happens that Microsoft thought-up some security measure or two that prohibits some - for example - updating procedures. Here is an example, but I doubt that is your problem. Please note the kb number, you don't have to learn Swedish.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922582/sv
Modificacion: Very few companies do I believe produce special 2003 drivers. Don't think I ever saw any MSI ones, anyway. Isn't it enough that XP and Vista works? Those are better for gaming, entertainment, VOIP and such.

K8N Neo4-FI Major IDE-problems (Only Pio on some disks)

Just registered so hello everybody!
I just got me a new rig which is seen in my sign. It took me a long time to figure out that you couldn't install Win on the Sata drive without having all of the IDE disks offline, but eventually I think I read that somewhere here and made a successful installation of the incredible Win XP .
When I was finished with installing I connected all the IDE-drives (Ch01: Seagate 160GB as master and Seagate 300GB as slave; Ch02: Seagate 80GB as master and NEC DVDRW as slave - all jumpered properly) it took me an even longer while to figure out that IDE wouldn't work at all with the supplied (and/or downloaded) Nvidia drivers. But I read that somewhere here too.
Now my rig is pretty much set up, but not working as it should - and when you've just spent some 800 Euros on a new comp you don't want to engage in compromises.
Problem is that having the IDE drives connected (regardless of configuration) makes the boot time incredibly long, while with only the SATA drive connected it is very rapid. But the problems doesn't stop there...
The slave on Channel 1 (the 300GB) and the master on Channel 2 (the 80GB which is not on the controller card) are both ran in PIO mode, and this seems impossible to change. I have read a lot about IDE problems with the Nvidia chipsets on this forum including what is in the FAQ and other places about how You should config your IDE drives to have them work properly but nothing seems to work. I'm beginning to consider sending MSI an angry e-mail telling them what I think about this bullsh*t.
Does anyone have an idea apart from what has been written and explained already on this forum (I'm pretty certain that I've read it all).
Best,
C

Quote from: c-boy on 24-March-06, 04:45:26
I'm upping this a little...
I narrowed the problem down, and I'm getting desperate now. Unfortunately, the MSI support hasn't been of much help so far.
I've read and read at all sorts of forums and the ones to blame are NVIDIA, since many people regardless of their board brand have issues.
However, I have now connected the 300GB with NVIDIA drivers, and it is found, and present in the disk manager, but no data is found. It is also marked as "unallocated" in the disk manager. Since I'm a musician and that disk has a lot of samples and music I need I don't wanna format it although I may be able to get all data back if I do.
When the drive is connected with the intergrated WinIDE drivers the data on it is found but it doesn't perform in anything but PIO mode.
I've had the new system online for almost a month now, and my Win installation is getting set-up to what I need, therefore I don't really want to reinstall. But, do you folks think that it would help to reinstall Windows? And not go anywhere near the NVIDIA drivers again.
I'm suspecting that they f***ed everything up at first but I'm not sure. I'd be ripping my hair off if I reinstall Windows and the problem remains.
I also invested in hi-quality ATA cables from Thermaltake recently, no difference though.
Any input (on topic) would be appreciated.
Regards,
C
What a coincidence, I happen to be having a similar issue. My sec HDD (maxtor) appears on Computer Managment/Disk Managment as "unallocated" as well.
I have tried any trick that I know of without any success. Reading your post gave me the idea of buying an expansion card. However, I refuse to spend the money on something that should work in the first place.
I strongly belive that the issue here lies on the mobo itself, as I have been able to get it to work on only one IDE conector.
Hey let me know if you ever manage in getting it to work.

HELP: Cannot get 200GB Maxtior Drive to show up on system with 875P Neo board

I just put together a system with a 875P Neo board, Intel 3.2Ghz HT Extreme Edition CPU, 32GB Scsi Drive on an Adaptec SCSI card, and two Maxtor Drives. The First is a 120GB which set as the primary on IDE1 (DVD Reader & DVD Writer are on IDE2) and the second drive is a Maxtor 200Gb Drive set as the primary on IDE3. When the system boots up It sees the 200GB on IDE3 as DMA6 and proceeds. When I look at it in the Bios Setup the two DVD roms appear and the 120GB drive appears, nothing appears in the IDE3 slots.
The system runs Windows XP off the the SCSI drive , which is derive letter C.
I am running the 1.9 bios I downloaded a last week off the MSI web site.
Have I set something wrong in the bios settings?
I do not see the CPU listed as well.
Any sugestions? I am trying to avoid going out a buying an ATA/133 Ultra DMA IDE card.
Thanks for the help,
Dave

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Originally posted by DaveGershon
Thanks,
That took care of it.
Does this BIOS show the details about the CPU (ie like the 2MB of L3 cache)?
Thanks,
Dave
Hey Dave, how well does your Extreme Edition processor perform?

Hi, After I installed Mac Lion, I have problem with the tamil font while typing in Neo Office. Especially with the letters "e-Ex: தெ" and "ai-Ex:தை". Please help me I know its not bug from Apple It shd be some problem in neo.

Hi, After I installed Mac Lion, I have problem with the tamil font while typing in Neo Office. Especially with the letters "e-Ex: தெ" and "ai-Ex:தை". Please help me I know its not bug from Apple It shd be some problem in neo.

Is your problem due to the keyboard or to NeoOffice Characters? You have to change probably the font. Not all fonts are supporting all Unicode sets. Which font you have in your NeoOffice set to write Tamil? Try with Arial Unicode MS for example.
Are the letter e-Ex and ai-Ex right in your posting? If they are right, how you inserted these letters in your posting? By copy and paste or by typing? If by typing, your question is related to NeoOffice. Probably you should reinstall or update NeoOffice? Or switch to OpenOffice?
marek

ATI Radeon 8500LE on MSI 865P Neo Board

Dear everyone!
Has anyone run on ATI Radeon 8500LE 64MB on a MSI 865P Neo Board together? Currently, I running this graphic card on MSI 865P Neo Board and seems like everytime I started to play games, it will hang! When I change to Riva TNT2 gfx card, it can play my games. Seems like MSI 865P unable to run my ATI Radeon 8500LE....
Perviously, I use MSI 845GE MAX-L, yet no prob faced running on my 8500LE card.
Anyone have any advice or patches or anything to fix this bugs? Pls advice!!
Thanxs alot!!

none of the suggestions on that thread worked for me
and i dont understand why you should disable features that will make the radeon perform at a lower level.
this is what i did to stop the 9700 pro from crashing.
Fresh install of windows then install service packs FIRST THING install chipset INF drivers before anything else.
I had trouble with the Catalyst 3.2 drivers. The 3.4 cats work fine for me. Also in the bios AGP apeture set that to 256mb. If the cat 3.4 drivers dont work try the 3.1 drivers

AGP Voltage on an i875P NEO board & APG8X vid card???

I found this statement on intel's website:
"What add-in AGP cards can be used?
The D875PBZ AGP socket is keyed for Universal 0.8 AGP cards that comply with the AGP 3.0 specification or 1.5 V AGP cards that comply with the AGP 2.0 specification.
The AGP connector supports 8x, 4x AGP 3.0 add-in cards operating at 0.8V, or 4x,1x AGP 2.0 add-in cards operating at 1.5V.
Note: There is no support for AGP 2x operation or legacy 3.3V AGP cards."
Even though this statement is geared towards an intel motherboard, it looks like to me that if you have an AGP8X graphics card, then you better set the AGP voltage in the BIOS to 0.8V
By default, the NEO board is set to 1.5V
Any thoughts?

leave bios alone and it will sort it out

For everyone having memory problems with this board

I have been working on my memory problems with this board. Memtest failed every pass yet memory was fine and board was fine. Was using Kingstone Value Ram
Set bios version back to 1.7
set preformance to fast
set memory to
2.5
4
4
8
Set voltage to 2.7 if that does not work go to 2.75
now working great no more blue screens or os getting corupt it seems to run like a charm
Thanks to the people who have posted sefull iformation even know you have to dig deep to find it.

i was having mem problems with this board. But i set up bios v2.2 - ram voltage 2.75 - performance mode: slow and ram timing by SPD.
Seems to work great for me but my video card is messed up so my comp dies every ones in a while.

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