Identified faces not merging between iphoto and aperture

I've been using both iphoto and aperture programs interchangeably to organize my photos and assumed that the work I was doing in one program was updating the other. Most of the work has been merged between the programs, but I noticed today that the faces I've identified in one program has not merged to the other and I can't figure out how to get them to merge that information I have almost 11,000 photos and it's taking me a huge amount of time to identify faces - definitely don't want to do it twice. Any ideas out there?

Yes, it's enabled in aperture, thank you. I've identified faces in both programs, but the ones I've id'd in iphoto are only showing for that person in iphoto. If I look at the same person (face) in aperture, different photos show (just the ones I've identified while I was using aperture identify faces). I thoiught they would merge and update back and forth, but they haven't.

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Previews are what you view on your display. When you import a photo into Aperture (and I'm pretty sure iPhoto as well), your computer automatically generates a preview for quick viewing. The original images are stored in your library, but it is the preview that you see.
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My thinking was that since you mentioned Aperture, it sounded like you had experience with working with it and with ordering a photo book through Aperture. I guess you were saying that you ordered via iPhoto, weren't happy with the quality and were wondering if Aperture created books were better.
Anyway, if this is the case, I cannot answer that for you. I have never ordered a book through Aperture. If the quality of your images is good, you should be able to get a decent product no matter where you order it from. There is not doubt that the materials used and the print shop that does the work makes a difference, but if your images are good, you should still get a decent product through iPhoto. Perhaps iPhoto isn't the way to go though if you have had poor experiences with them.
If you haven't used Aperture yet, I would highly recommend it though aside from the photo book aspect of this thread. It is a stellar product.
I hope this helps.
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By first merging the iPhoto and Aperture Libraries, then deleting any duplicates, then migrating to Photos.

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Hey there, Apple Support Communities.
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That will not be an easy task, Christie.
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and not all the original pictures can be found by the libraries anymore, though some originals still do exist in other libraries. Steps/process to fix?
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