IDoc Acknowledgments

Dear XI Experts,
I've read through all of the corresponding Idoc Ack. posts and the How To Guide but still can't figure out why my scenario just won't work.
I've set up a File -> XI -> Idoc scenario and want to receive an acknowledge back in XI and send this out via the Mail Adapter.
File conversion works, Idoc is received in the R/3 system, an ALEAUD Idoc is sent back to XI and references the original Idoc. The problem is, I keep on getting an error at "technical routing of response" within the processing of the Acknowledgement.
The sender of the ALEAUD is the R/3 system, which is correct, the sender interface though is "http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">Acknowledgment which I've never created and which is also not present!
Also the receiver of the acknowledgement gives me a headache, as it's the original file sender business system, the receiver interface is as well "http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30">Acknowledgment. How can that be? I've even deleted all receiver and interface determinations regarding the inbound processing of the ALEAUD message.
Does anyone know where this mysterious Acknowledgment interface comes from and why there's a receiver and interface determination even though I didn't configure it?
Thanks a lot!
Michael

Hi,
I think that the entry within IDX_ALEREQUEST does not have any effect on my Acknowledgments. What I expect is that after the entry within IDX_ALEREQUEST has been applied, all ALEAUD messages are treated as separate XI request messages. I can select the corresponding port of the sending system, the partner no. of the receiver is a wildcard, so it shouldn't matter what value I enter there, but this all has no effect on the acknowledgments...
Maybe it's because XI recognizes the sender/receiver interface as "Acknowledgment" (which I did not even create). But How do I get it to identify the ALEAUD Idocs as ALEAUD IDOCs?? The receiver namespace for example is automatically determined as http://sap.com/xi/XI/Message/30. Where does XI get this from?
Anyone any idea what I'm doing wrong?

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Idoc acknowledgments...HELP !!!!!

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Confirmation aleaud
Sys A <--
Sys B <--
*Sys C*
EDI Partner -
> XI -
> R/3
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This is my question Gurus...
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3) Message Code --> _______________ to ________________
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asas

Hi,
Please check this
setting up Audit Response.
/people/saravanakumar.kuppusamy2/blog/2005/01/20/configuration-tips-for-a-business-serviceintegration-process-to-send-back-ale-audit-idoc
For IDOC, you could have ALEAUD as an acknowledgment IDOC.
Check this document on handling IDOC acknowledgements. This might give you some pointers.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f6d2d790-0201-0010-9382-b50b499b3fbe
have a look at the Alert Framework, which can be configured to send mails to specific persons if an interface processing fails.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/942f3ffed33d67e10000000a114084/content.htm
There are two types of JDBC acknowledgements Transport level and application level.
IF the JDBC call is asynchronous you can set up for transport level acknowlegement in the send step in ur BPM.
if the JDBC call is synchronous then JDBC adaptor will generate a response message with a tag update count, which gives you the number of rows that were updated.
refer to the following link, which details about reciever jdbc
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2e/96fd3f2d14e869e10000000a155106/content.htm
just check out these links
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/29/345d3b7c32a527e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/7b/94553b4d53273de10000000a114084/content.htm
The following link has entire configuration of Receiver XI Adapter (including acknowledgements)
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/f4/0a1640a991c742e10000000a1550b0/content.htm
Thanks,
Bhargav.
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Idoc Acknowledgements - Logical System Name

All,
Stuck with a few issues with Idoc Acknowledgments which I hope SDN can help me with. For ease of understanding the problem, am splitting this into 2 Scenarios ,
Scenario 1
SAP R3 (Idoc ) - XI - File ( Business Service)
R3 Triggers Idoc to XI and XI sends this as a File to the target Application. AleAdudits can be sent back to the R3 system as shown in <a href="/people/saravanakumar.kuppusamy2/blog/2005/01/20/configuration-tips-for-a-business-serviceintegration-process-to-send-back-ale-audit-idoc">this</a> blog by Saravana by adding the Logical System Name to the Business Service.
Issue :
R3 has configured Partner Profile with respect to XI and this cannot be changed. To send the Idoc Ack's back to R3 we need to add the Corresponding Logical System Name to the Business Service.
The problem is - what if the Idoc is to be sent to 2 Different Business Service / Systems. The R3 expects an Acknowledgment with XI as the sender partner but we cannot share the same logical system across different Business Systems / services . The easiest solution seems to be to create different partner profiles in R3, one for each Business System / Service. But this is not possible currently.
Scenario 2: 
R3 - XI - BPM - Target
Idoc triggered from R3, are sent to a BPM and then from the BPM to a file. Everything works fine.
But, the problem lies that when the Ack needs to be sent back to R3, The ack errors out because no Logical System Name is associated with the BPM.
We do not want to add another logical system name to the BPM and thereby create another partner profile and the problem is similar to Scenario 1.
Solutions Explored
1. In the ACK_IDOCAdapter , I tried to select option Take Sender From Payload and Take Receiver from Payload.
But this does not seem to help. I can see the trace in MONI saying the ACK_IDOC adapter is choosen to send the ack back to R3 , but it does not take the Partner Names from the payload of the AleAdudit and errors out with error Unable to convert..
2. As this AleAduit is sent from XI back to R3 and is not a R3 (AleAduit) - XI - R3 (aleaduit) case, adding a entry as shown in Section 6 in
<a href="https://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.comhttp://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb">this</a> document will not help.
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I hope the description of the problem made sense, if no, do let me know.
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Bhavesh

Bhavesh,
Your problem as i understand -> The problem is - what if the Idoc is to be sent to 2 Different Business Service / Systems. The R3 expects an Acknowledgment with XI as the sender partner but we cannot share the same logical system across different Business Systems / services . The easiest solution seems to be to create different partner profiles in R3, one for each Business System / Service. But this is not possible currently.

If the IDOC is sent to 2 different business services/systems/Integration Processes, then it is very logical that an ALEAUDIT be sent for each of these business systems/services. Ideally, you SHOULD NOT look at sending a common ALEAUDIT for different recievers in XI, the reason being, failures could happen only for one receiver and NOT for others. Failure could be in the mapping/content conversion. I am assuming here that you are configuring XI to send back "ALEAUDITs" only for System Error Acks(hoping it is possible, since i see 3 XXXs in the IDXNOALE table).
So, it is logical that you configure a different LS in R/3 for each reciever system/service/IP, all these LS's will have one entry for ALEAUDIT in the Inbound params entered in WE20.
If your intention is to send ALEAUDITs back only in case of errors, it makes sense to create an entry for each receiver in R/3. If not, then it is a limitation.
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Saravana

IDoc confirmation to PI

Hi,
We're looking to set up IDoc acknowledgments. We've set up everything as we figured it should be (WE20, BD64, Configuration, etc. etc.) but still R/3 doesn't send ALEAUD IDocs back to PI.
Our PI system is a 7.11, the R/3 system is ECC 6 EhP4.
The scenario is as follows, asynchronous:
Adobe Forms calls a webservice
Webservice translates data to IDoc
IDoc is sent to R/3
When the IDoc is processed we'd like R/3 to send back an ALEAUD IDoc to PI, sadly enough, it doesn't ...
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Kr,
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Hi,
>>>(WE20, BD64, Configuration, etc. etc.) but still R/3 doesn't send ALEAUD IDocs back to PI.
did you configure and schedule report : RBDSTATE which sends the idocs?
full config shown with screenshots in my book:
http://www.sap-press.com/product.cfm?account=&product=H3059
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where i can disble the acknowledgements in idoc to file scenario.
Kiran

Hi,
If you want the ack..
Go throughthis steps..
go to transaction SXMB_ADM on XI SAP system
Choose Integration Engine Configuration
Select "Execute"
Choose "Specific Configuration"
choose New Entries
Select :
Category : RUNTIME
Parameters : ACK_SYSTEM_FAILURE
Current Value : 1
and save it.
The below link contains everything about IDOC acknowledgments
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb
Might help you..
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Yesterday I deleted the entry from SMQR transaction, I have SOAP->RFC->SOAP scenario it is working fine, but SOAP->XI->IDOC scenario is giving me the error , Please let me know how do I solve this issue.
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Hi Ragava,
are u expecting the IDOC acknowledgments as RFC responds if so try to follow this links it may help you
setting up Audit Response.
Configuration Tips for a Business Service/Integration Process to send back ALE audit IDOC
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Hi all,
I am having small doubt regarding the setting acknowledgement to Idoc while doing Idoc to File scenario.
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Hi Sridhar,
The below link contains everything about IDOC acknowledgments
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/903a0abc-e56e-2910-51a8-9dc616df56eb
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We need to send from SAP system idoc acknowledgments that we receive from external application. And we need to apply relatively small time intervals (eg 1-2mins) of sending those.
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What I am thinking is a smarter way of indicating whether given idoc was already acknowledged - eg. in idoc control or status record.
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Hi All
I have SOAP to IDOC scenario which is successfully working.
Now the requirement is SOAP needs an accknowledgement that IDOC is successfully posted.
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Regards
Dheeraj Kumar

hi,
point no 1. as Grzegorz explanied with examples:
http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ABAP/HandlingIdocAcknowledgements
but it's better to use a custom idoc in this case (approach No 2.)
why ?
as standard IDOC for ack can be used in PI for message acknowledgment and you may need it in the future
so it's better to copy the standard one into a custom on and use it for your SOAP scenario only
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http://www.sap-press.com/products/Mastering-IDoc-Business-Scenarios-with-SAP-NetWeaver-PI.html
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Hello,
I have a scenario where a sender SAP system sends an IDoc via an Interface Mapping to an Integration Process.
This worked perfectly fine on our development environment, but after transporting the scenario to our quality systems I got the following acknowledgement error:
Unable to convert the sender service name of integration process to an ALE logical system.
What could be the reason for this? We have a logical system on the sender SAP system set up for the XI system itself but not for the Integration Process.
We also use SYSTAT IDocs and there we set the the logical sender system name to the logical system for SAP XI and not for the integration process.
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I raised the same question a few months back.Answer to this question is in the same thread.
Idoc Acknowledgements - Logical System Name
You will have to select option "Restore Original Parties for Idoc Acknowledgments " in the Acknowledgment Idoc adapter.
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In the HOW TO HANDLE IDoc ACKNOWLEDGMENTS doc do i do this configuration in my XI box or my receiving ECC box?

Hi Derrick,
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No Parties are interseted in selected data
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Hi,
I'd suggest
http://www.sap-press.com/products/Mastering-IDoc-Business-Scenarios-with-SAP-NetWeaver-PI.html
... 5.10 ... IDoc Acknowledgments ... 183
... ... 5.10.1 ... Sending Acknowledgments from an SAP Application System ... 184
... ... 5.10.2 ... Sending Acknowledgments from SAP NetWeaver PI ... 187
everything with screenshots
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Ohhh.. i think lot of confusion
I answered earlier also in terms of non SAP systems. Lets talk only in terms of Idoc
In case of idocs, only receiver system decides whether an acknowledgment IDoc should be sent back to the sender based on the ALE configuration (for ALEAUD). So this would only be possible in Idoc - XI - Idoc scenario. In any of the other scenario u will not get ALEAUD back.
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Hi friends.
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