IDoc Inbound Processing for CREMDM & DEBMDM

Hi experts,
I'd like to gather some feedback from you regarding the topic ERP IDoc Inbound Processing for CREMDM & DEBMDM. As you all know, there's currently no option to directly process CREMDM/DEBMDM IDocs in ERP. Currently you have to use PI for splitting the CREMDM/DEBMDM message into its related ADRMAS and CREMAS/DEBMAS IDocs.
My areas of interest are:
1) How satisfied are you with the current situation? Does the split work? Are there issues or problems in the current message handling? What are the Pro's and Con's from your point of view?
2) What would be the requirements for a CREMDM/DEBMDM handler? What would you expect? Maybe you have implemented something similar on project basis and could post some feedback?
One painpoint I'd see with a CREMDM/DEBMDM inbound is that you'll lose the IDoc Monitoring capabilities. The message split allows a single record tracing in the IDoc Monitor (as there is a 1:1 relation between IDocs and records). This changes for the mass processing. The monitor would display only the status of the IDoc and you'd need some other monitoring capabilities to check the results on record level. What are your thoughts about that? Is the monitoring important? Would the application log be a feasible solution for that challenge?
Additional comments are welcome, of course.
Best regards
Michael
PS: @ Matt, please contact me by mail. thanks.

Hello ,
Here are some other pain areas regarding the message split :
1. Complicated monitoring proess & reprocessing error idocs : We have to monitor ADRMAS & CREMAS or ADRMAS & DEBMAS during inbound processing. Also we could not find any best practices to reprocess error idocs. E.g. If ADRMAS fails & CREMAS succeeds what is the impact . Also the impact if it is reveresed. We know for sure that if CREMAS fails , vendor will not be created / updated. But we could not find specific pointers for ADRMAS failures.
2. It is a tedious process to link CREMAS with corresponding ADRMAS idoc specially when SAP maintains internal number range for vendors.
3 . The process is complicated if you are managing customer or vendor contact information with contact address . We could succesfully implement the integration but it took us a while to reach end-point.
4. Splitting really does not seem to support if ERP maintains internal number range.
5. Another major issue we observed is , if ADRMAS is under process & corresponding DEBMAS or CREMAS is posted , it fails raising the message that Account is locked. Default serialization does work in ERP system . But overlap of few microseconds also cause this error.
Hope this helps !!
Please let me know if you need any other specific details since we have used MDM - ECC integration using PI to its maximum extent .
Regards
Yogesh

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