Idoc packaging at sender side

Hi all,
What is Idoc Packaging?
I have a scenario(Idoc to file) where sender is sending multiple idocs and I have to collect it without using BPM is it possible? Can Idoc Packaging help me in this.. If yes kindly give me all the development details too.
Thanks in advance,
Anu Singhal

Hi Anu,
Please look into the below thread for michal's answer:
IDOC Packaging on outbound side
You can refer the below blog for collecting multiple idocs without using BPM in the sender system only.
/people/stefan.grube/blog/2006/09/18/collecting-idocs-without-using-bpm
Refer the below link for info on idoc packaging:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/877c0d53-0801-0010-3bb0-e38d5ecd352c
Also:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
Regards,
Prasanthi.

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Can we do IDOC packaging on Outboud side of IDOC Adapter ?

hi,
no, IDOC packaging is not possible on the outbound side
you can use collect patter to collect idocs and send them
in one call like I desribed in one weblog:
/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change
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I have a flat file with an IDOC structure in it, like produced from R/3.
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EDI_DC40 4000000000000761577620 3014 ORDERS05                                                    ORDRSP                                           SAPR3P    LS LS_R3P_302                                                                                DATEIPORT2KMBG0000019887                                                                                20061206095508                                                                                20061206095508
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Hi Shabarish,
I found a sinple solution:
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We21 can pick up now from here!
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The scenario is IDOC - File.
ALE configuration steps are done from R3 end
in XI, I hav created Port, RFC destination
IR, ID activated succesfully
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Hi nikhil,
let me try for u...
U have to trigger DEBMAS from R/3...
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1st way
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2)Under basic type give DE* and press F4 , u will get all the basic type IDOcs that start with DE.Now select the Idoc DEBMAS(u will definitely find it)
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USING EXTING IDOCS:
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Hi Babu,
When you run the transaction there comes az message like 'n' Communication channel ........created something. if the value of 'n' is 0 then Plz chk the partner profile and everything related to the R3 and Xi connection.
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Hi
I am aware that in Idoc packaging how Sender Idoc adapter packaging is done and also know that it is available from PI7.11
I have 2 questions...
1. Suppose there is a data issue with a single idoc ,,because of that entire package will fail...then it would call for finding the erroneous idoc ...correct the data and resend all the Idocs again..
This problem can occur again and again...and because of this the entire package will be stopped..
So is it a good option to not do packaging and send a single Idoc and insert it as a record in target database.
2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
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>
> 2. In case i am doing idoc packaging the occurence of IDOC in mapping will still be 1..1.
>
> How do i manage my mapping such that each Idoc in the package should insert a separate record in the database table
>
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I am wondering if the packaging done on PI side should be the same as the packaging parameters on sender side
Do not have to be same.
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when i'm using business service in sender side it is getting an error as follows
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Hi Satish,
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Most of my scenarios I have to group several IDOCS and generate just one file, and using the new functionality I can reach my scenario easily and with good performance.
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In fact I wanted to see the IDOC being collapsed with several IDOC nodes in the monitoring.
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Check this thread for your query
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Hi vijayreddy.veluri
these questions are very general.
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[rules of engagement|/thread/117188 [original link is broken];
before creating threads.
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>
Carlos Herrera wrote:
> Hi Ravikanth,
>
> Yes, I intend to do that, but the question is, will that be enough since it will still go through the comm channel that has idoc packaging configured? In other words, will the comm channel package size act as a "max size" or "min size"?
>
> Thanks.
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