Idoc Serialization Problem

Hi Experts,
We have a requirement where we need to send IDoc's to SAP PI in a sequence from SAP ECC and in the same sequence the Idoc should reach to the SAP PI.
We tried to do the sequencing through IDOC Serialization (From Mastering Idoc Business Scenarios BOOK), but the Idoc are not reached to MONI in the Same Sequence.
Please reply if anyone has done IDOC Serialization.
Regards,
Praveen Kalwa
Edited by: praveen kalwa on Jun 25, 2010 4:59 PM
Edited by: praveen kalwa on Jun 25, 2010 5:08 PM
Edited by: praveen kalwa on Jun 25, 2010 5:14 PM
Edited by: praveen kalwa on Jun 25, 2010 5:15 PM

Hi,
You can do the IDOC serialization in SAP PI by creating a queue .
The logic is, please create queue in PI which should be referred in SAP partner profile rule. We have implemeted this in our landscape which runs perfectly w/o any issues.
Please refer ht[/people/community.user/blog/2006/11/04/how-to-serialize-idoc-xml-messages-fed-into-xi|ht/people/community.user/blog/2006/11/04/how-to-serialize-idoc-xml-messages-fed-into-xi]

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Hi,
Create a custom transaction for PO Print & make the necessary changes as per your requirement In the custom program which you attach to the custom transaction you can put a validation to display the price based on user ID or some other parameters.
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MDM Learn wrote:
Hi Folks,
>
> I have queries reg Advanced Adapter Engine (AAE):
>
> 1) Can we do the Synchronous scenarios through AAE.
Already supported as part of 7.1 / 7.11 so dont see any problem here
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> 2) How can i do the IDOC serialization. How AAE helps in that.
>
> Am using PI 7.3 ...Can you please mention the possibilites for the above queries.
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Regards,
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