Idoc to BPM Failure

I am getting occasional problems with a custom idoc that is being passed to a BPM process.
The idoc is passed to a BPM process.
The BPM vefifies that the content is valid for purposes, and if it is then passes it on to a second receiver determination. If not, then the idoc is ignored.
The majority of the time this works perfectly.
Occasionally however, I get an error in that the first receiver determination that uses the BPM says it is successful, but the message never gets passed to the second part.
The only error showing (that I have been able to find) the Outbound Status which says 'Message has error on outbd. side'.
My suspicion is that this is due to a problem with java memory, as it only happens when the servers have been running for a number of weeks without a restart.
However, I wonder if anyone else has had similar problems an can shed any further light on this. Not least being how I can get alerts to report the error.
Thanks in adance
C

Udo,
thanks for your time and help on this.
I've checked SM21 and there are a couple of CPIC errors at roughly the time in question - but the detail in them does not help much.
In terms of ST06, our CPU and memory is always max'd out at that time of day. we send the vast majoitiry of our messages between midnight and 3AM.
The scenario is fairly simple.
We send a custom idoc from our R/3 system.
A receiver determination is set to receive this and pass it to a BPM.
The BPM consists of a mapping that sets a flag in the output depending on certian aspects of the content.
This output is then passed to a second receiver determination which maps it and then uses the Seeburger BIC tool and creates a flat Tradacoms format file.
As far as I can tell, the idoc is being sent successfully.
It is received and passed to the BPM.
The BPM maps is successfully.
The message never gets to the second receiver determination.
Regards
C

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