Idoc to Soap BPM issue

Hello Experts,
I have implemented idoc to SOAP scenario using BPM. In which idoc data is sent to CRM webservice.
But my BPM scenario is not able to handle the idocs that are coming in quick succession in SAP PI.
For one idoc i get successful response and the other i gets stuck.
Please reply
Thanks in advance,
Vishal

The BPM goes like this ..
step1. BS system -
> Integration Process IP
step2. IP -
> CRM system
If 2 idocs comes to XI system ...first idoc goes successfully to CRM system
and the second idoc is stucka after step 1 .

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The response from the webservice doesn't match with the structure provided by the webservice provider.
I also implemented another scenario, a simple non-BPM,
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Is there something in the request that is triggering this?
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As per your explanation it looks like the Async to Sycn brodge. You will be sending the IDOC to Webservice and then Webservice response is mapped with another IDOC. Ofcourse you need to handle it through BPM.
But can you tell me what steps you had followed for BPM.
I am sure you might have handled it in your BPM
Just to refer below steps in BPM
1. Receive step to get the IDOC in XI
2. Send step to send the message Synchonously to web Service
3, Receive step for synchornous response from Web Service
4. Send step to send the Response as IDOC to same R/3 system
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Hi,
The inbound processing encountered a permanent error and the queue therefore stopped.
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