IDOCS: Segment Definition and Segment Type

Hi Gurus,
We are working on IDOCs and trying to send a Location Master IDOCs to Third party system.
1. In the IDOC print preview we are in a position to see the IDOC segment type Ex: E1TPLOC but customer is asking for Segment definition E2TPLOC.
When we go through the documentation:
u2022     Segment Type consists of Segment definition with Version and Release.
u2022     Segment Definition will contain the Field names
u2022     E1TPLOC, E1TPDLH, E1KNVAM, E1TPTRM & E1TPSHH Segment types with concerned Segment definitions are
                     E2TPLOC,E2TPDLH, E2KNVAM
How to see the Segment definition types?

Hi,
You can see the documentation in the transaction WE60 by giving the IDOC Basic type and extension if you have any.
E1 and E2 are the same, when you see the definition of the segment the naming convention will be E2 and when populating the data it will be E1.
I believe he is asking the segment definition alone, you go to WE60 transaction and give the inputs and click the parser button and that will give you the definition of the idoc and which you can share it with your partner.
Thanks,
Mahesh.

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