IE Developer Toolbar out of beta (Off topic)

Hi,
If you have to develop APEX applications for IE the Developer Toolbar is a great tool. It has been a beta for a long time but I just noticed that version 1.0 was released on the 9 may. You can get it here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&displaylang=en
Regards Pete

This thread was spotted to be included in the weekly APEX forum wrap-up.
(in the Announcements part)
Thanks,
Dimitri
-- APEX Forum wrap-up --
@ http://dgielis.blogspot.com/search/label/apex%20forum

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微软发布IE Developer Toolbar Beta版

http://news.csdn.net/news/newstopic/26/26496.shtml
近日，微软发布了Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar Beta版。该产品让开发人员能够深入探索和理解Web页面，帮助开发者更好地创建Web应用。
IE Developer Toolbar特性如下：
－浏览和修改Web页的文档对象模型（DOM）。
－通过多种技术方式定位、选定Web页上的特定元素。
－禁止或激活IE设置。
－查看HTML对象的类名、ID，以及类似链接路径、tab顺序、快捷键等细节。
－描绘表格、单元格、图片或选定标签的轮廓。
－显示图片象素、大小、路径、替代文字等。
－即时重定义浏览器窗口大小到800x600或自定义大小。
－清空浏览器缓存和cookie，被清除项可从所有对象或给定域中选择。
－直接访问关联W3C规范参考、IE开发组blog或其他来源。
－显示设计时标尺，帮助对齐对象。
该工具条可集成在IE窗口，或以浮动窗口形式存在。
下载地址：http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e59c3964-672d-4511-bb3e-2d5e1db91038&DisplayLang=en

Beta 2 Preview Update
The Microsoft Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar provides a variety of tools for quickly creating, understanding, and troubleshooting Web pages. This version is a preview release and behavior may change in the final release.
Overview
The Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar provides several features for exploring and understanding Web pages. These features enable you to:
-- Explore and modify the document object model (DOM) of a Web page.
-- Locate and select specific elements on a Web page through a variety of techniques.
-- Selectively disable Internet Explorer settings.
-- View HTML object class names, ID's, and details such as link paths, tab index values, and access keys.
-- Outline tables, table cells, images, or selected tags.
-- Validate HTML, CSS, WAI, and RSS Web feed links.
-- Display image dimensions, file sizes, path information, and alternate (ALT) text.
-- Immediately resize the browser window to a new resolution.
-- Selectively clear the browser cache and saved cookies. Choose from all objects or those associated with a given domain.
-- Choose direct links to W3C specification references, the Internet Explorer team weblog (blog), and other resources.
-- Display a fully featured design ruler to help accurately align and measure objects on your pages.
The Developer Toolbar can be pinned to the Internet Explorer browser window or floated separately.
This Beta 2 version of the toolbar contains functionality and stability enhancements over previous versions and includes the following improvements.
-- You can now selectively enable and disable CSS parsing.
-- The Misc menu contains a color picker.
-- Several link reports are available.
-- When you select an element in the DOM element tree list, the selected element scrolls into view if it is not already visible in the browser window.

Developer toolbar does not appear with SHIFT-F2 in Fullscreen

I'm sure there's others out there who would like to be productive on small displays. Maybe you've figured out how to make the Developer Toolbar consistently appear as requested when SHIFT-F2 is pressed, and you'd like to share. :-)

i did not see a solution posted - I tired what I read. Going back to an old version may solve the problem but it is a stupid solution so I have yet to do that.
I am on version 4 and autofil this does not work :
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Uninstall version 5, then Google "google toolbar version 4", follow the link to FileHippo.com, and download and install the last version 4. When you reinstall it, make sure you turn off the option to perform automatic updates.
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Newbie wireless question (slightly off-topic)

I didn't want to post this here as it's not entirely an Airport-specific question. I posted this to the iBook forums, but nobody there has answered so my apologies if this is not welcome here. (Any moderators can remove it if that's the case.)
I've been using computers extensively for over a decade, but I'm a total newbie to wifi. I just set up a wireless network in my house and would appreciate some advice/feedback.
My main concerns are whether or not my network is reasonably secure. I know there is no such thing as perfect security, but I don't know if what I've done is good enough or not.
I don't have an Airport base station, but I do have a D-Link Airplus G and an Airport card in my iBook. I have WEP set up on the router and I have enabled MAC filtering, listing only my desktop and my iBook, excluding all others from the network.
I'm fairly certain that nobody in my neighborhood is going to get into my machines this way or be able to sniff my network data stream, but am I right in assuming that nobody can "piggyback" on my Internet connection too? Presumably, if everyone but my own machines are MAC-filtered and kept out, then the Internet connection is also protected. Is that how it works?

WEP and MAC filtering are better than nothing, but you can do better. These are my suggestions:
1. Use WPA with a pre-shared key (PSK) and TKIP encryption on your Netgear router, along with an alphanumeric passphrase of at least eight characters not found in any dictionary. The equivalent setting on your Mac is "WPA Personal". Unlike WEP security (which an expert can crack in under half an hour), WPA security is currently unhackable by any practical means as long as you use a non-dictionary passphrase. One last point - WPA security requires all your wireless Macs to be running MacOS 10.3 or newer.
2. MAC filtering is (these days) essentially useless as a wireless security method. Using "packet sniffing" of traffic on your wireless network to find out what MAC addresses are used by computers on your network, and a PC that allows its MAC address to be cloned so that it is identical to the MAC address of one your own wireless computers (which is possible with most PC wireless network adapters) even an amateur hacker can defeat MAC address filtering in minutes.
By the way - I don't think your posted message here is off topic. In my opinion, the Airport discussion forums are the best place to post any questions related to usage of wireless networks. Questions of this nature are virtually never specific to any Mac model.

Slightly off topic: JDev + 10g + recommended laptop

Hi gang
This is a slightly off-topic post in the forum. Apologies to the forum moderators up front.
I'm in the process of purchasing a new laptop for development. Among other things I need to run Oracle 10g, + JDev + Solitaire.
My assumption for such a laptop is I'll need a fast hd (7200rpm+) for builds, and lots of memory to run Oracle 10g and memory hogging Java JDev. Also extra screen real-estate would be ideal with the multi-pane JDev.
However without the ability to walk into a laptop supplier, load up the software and do some tests, I'm not sure what would be sufficient. I don't want to go overboard on features in order to save $s, but I don't want something that wont run fast enough without bugging the Hell out of me either.
Does anybody have any recommendations on what laptop they are currently running or what they would buy to run Oracle 10g + JDev? Are my assumptions correct or does anybody run this config with less, happily?
Any help appreciated.
Cheers,
CM.

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Mike

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Off topic - job market

Hello
Sorry for the off topic, after all this is a technical forum...
I have been working with Apex for quite a while now and I find it a great tool. I enjoy working with it and I consider myself quite good at it.
However I have concerns about my employability... Its job market seems to be almost non-existent where I live (UK). Even so, Apex seems to be now a mature product, with a growing user base, the Apex forum is one of the Oracle's most popular forums and the IT job market seems to be good here at the moment. Usually all those factors mean a buoyant job market, but it does not seem to be the case with Apex.
I have other skills, and there are quite a few vacancies asking for them. I will not starve but it seems to me that if I want to change job I will have to stop working with Apex, which would be unfortunate for me (and for the community also ;-)
Why is it so? Has anyone got the same impression? Is the Apex job market better in mainland Europe? Any insights welcome...
Thanks
Edith

I think there is not a strong demand because it has replaced small development projects , these are usually in house or done by existing IT outsourcing companies
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Off topic: Database Unique IDs

Hi folks,
This is a little off-topic, but I figure that there may be other people out
there whose Forte development would benefit from the discussion.
I am currently building a development framework for our new software
product. As part of that framework I'd like to include the facility for
generating unique, user-invisible, integer database IDs.
Now there is some doubt here that this is actually required and that the
primary key should be whatever the programmer wants it to be, including
multiple columns if necessary.
I was wondering if anyone can give us some rules-of-thumb regarding
the use of unique IDs as primary keys. Or if someone can point me to
some on-line resources (or even a good book) that can guide us in this
area.
The arguments I have given for using integer IDs are:
- Single, integer columns should be faster
- User invisible integer ID allows editing/duplicates of all user-visible fields
- Single, integer foreign keys would reduce storage requirements
- Standardising on integer IDs would allow generic functionality built into
framework
- More object-oriented as objects have "built-in" unique identity
I would appreciate any comments people have. We can take this
discussion off-list if that is preferable.
Cheers,
Duncan Kinnear,
McCarthy and Associates, Email: [email protected]
PO Box 764, McLean Towers, Phone: +64 6 834 3360
Shakespeare Road, Napier, New Zealand. Fax: +64 6 834 3369
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Hi folks,
This is a little off-topic, but I figure that there may be other people out
there whose Forte development would benefit from the discussion.
I am currently building a development framework for our new software
product. As part of that framework I'd like to include the facility for
generating unique, user-invisible, integer database IDs.
Now there is some doubt here that this is actually required and that the
primary key should be whatever the programmer wants it to be, including
multiple columns if necessary.
I was wondering if anyone can give us some rules-of-thumb regarding
the use of unique IDs as primary keys. Or if someone can point me to
some on-line resources (or even a good book) that can guide us in this
area.
The arguments I have given for using integer IDs are:
- Single, integer columns should be faster
- User invisible integer ID allows editing/duplicates of all user-visible fields
- Single, integer foreign keys would reduce storage requirements
- Standardising on integer IDs would allow generic functionality built into
framework
- More object-oriented as objects have "built-in" unique identity
I would appreciate any comments people have. We can take this
discussion off-list if that is preferable.
Cheers,
Duncan Kinnear,
McCarthy and Associates, Email: [email protected]
PO Box 764, McLean Towers, Phone: +64 6 834 3360
Shakespeare Road, Napier, New Zealand. Fax: +64 6 834 3369
Providing Integrated Software to the Meat Processing Industry for over 10 years
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OFF Topic - sorry

I'm just reading "LV Job Openings" and I'm wonder what is the most popular field of labview from the "job possibilities" point of view ? For example I cant find any "vision" position but there are a lot of "test standard" positions. And one more question: is LV more popular in US/CA than in Europe ? Almost all "job openings" are from USA ?
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The jobs being posted are based on certain company's need at the moment. Typically more for test solutions, because most people make that association with LabVIEW. ... and the historical significance, etc..
As for Labview programmer job availability, looking at the Job Postings in this forum is not necessarily a good indication because most companies are probably not aware that they can look for people here. The better places are whatever job search engine that you would use in your area or even talk to headhunters.
As far as Labview popularity is concerned, we did have a thread somewhere in breakpoint which asked that question to NI. I think USA was at the top followed by some European Country, etc. But since the market is evolving very fast, so are the demographics. Maybe India is now leading the pack.. I don't know, and with everything, it is subject to change.
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Is there a way to make Firefox version 20 developer toolbar behave in the same fashion as version 19.

Version 20 places all of developer toolbar components together which is kinda of a killer. Before you could just have the style viewer open on the side with only having a small toolbar at the bottom. Or work with HTML by pressing a single button.
Is there a way to make it behave like it use to without me going back a version. Or a way to just open the style viewer on the side without anything else.
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The new version is hopeless - which is a pity because this feature is just about the only reason I stick with FireFox as a developer. Previously I could hit Ctrl-shift-I to bring up the nice site panel, which often with wide-screen monitors is dead-space. The HTML panel wasn't shown by default and I seldomly needed it. I could hit ESC to get rid of it.
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NO: opening in a separate window is NOT a solution!
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Virtualize IE6 including Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar

I tried to follow this thread http://forums.novell.com/novell-prod...h-plugins.html
to virtualize IE6 including Internet Explorer Developer Toolbar
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I think settings shared with IE9 somehow and it's not work, or what it can be?

With ZAV 9 we have another option available:
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Suggestion: General Discussions\Off Topic Section

hi,
it would be great to have an off topic forum/section here for us to interact and have general discussions. almost every forum i'm a member of has an Off Topic section. we can get to know each other much better and share useful information and opinions about various topics, technology and others also. we can do the same through PM's, but getting everyone involved will feel much better.
Make it easier for other people to find solutions, by marking my answer with \'Accept as Solution\' if it solves your problem.
Click on the BLUE KUDOS button on the left to say "Thanks"
I am an ex-HP Employee.

if they start posting technical questions or spam here, then they should be banned!
EDIT: in other news, my reputation level increased!
Message Edited by DexterM on 01-07-2009 11:44 PM
Make it easier for other people to find solutions, by marking my answer with \'Accept as Solution\' if it solves your problem.
Click on the BLUE KUDOS button on the left to say "Thanks"
I am an ex-HP Employee.

Off Topic: DAQ 5102 PCMCIA version no longer available / searching for used ones

Since some time, the DAQ 5102 oscilloscope PCMCIA card version is no
longer available from NI.
Does anybody know where to buy one. (I already searched ebay for
weeks)
Or does anybody want to sell ? via ebay ?
Please let me know.
Thanks.
Sorry for this off topic, but i found no better group.

Maybe it is this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154969
The decisive effect is 'Improved window management' - if this effect is enabled kwin works normally.
Last edited by May-C (2008-02-13 01:16:48)

Off topic: General comment

All,
I know this is totally off-topic but this is the best way to send a very important message.
One of those days, someone called to us to offer Solaris support services, because that person was reading this forum and saw our entries. I guess, if we are here asking for help, and helping others, the idea is to use the community to achieve better results.
I understand that every business needs to make money, but there are some limits as well. If we had any interest to hire a consulant and pay for him/her services, we would not be here making posts.
Also, what is much more important, is to share information and knowledge about a product, Solaris, which is open source now.
So, if there are any other business digger here, please do not contact us in anyway, unless we ask for that contact. Right now, that person and his company are on my personal "avoid contact at any cost" list.
Cheers
Andreas

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I broke my last Epson while leaping up and down upon it in an apoplectic rage in such circumstances. Really.
But it seems you are right, we have no option. Finally, Print Shop by Broderbund is probably like a high-tech wunderkind chrome robot when compared to the Official Worst Appplication of All Time, Epson Print CD, which closely resembles a turd.
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Will people stumble across off topic posts on a blog?

In Summary my question is this: Have I ANY chance of people stumbling across off topic posts?
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I.E: John's Tech Blog at techblogger.com
The content is pretty much all about tech stuff.
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I want to discuss something I find interesting on the Psychology Today website (something less mainstream).
Have I ANY chance of people stumbling across either of these or similar?
I know a bit about SEO, and know...basically the more I mention something (keyword-wise) the better. Aswell as density, proximity etc of course.
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Let's also assume I re-post these posts on 5 other article sites linking back.
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