IE10 Consumer Preview Still Only Does Half Color-Management

The Internet Explorer version 10 Consumer Preview does not do full color-management - it ignores the monitor profile.
This is not a real surprise, as I have had it confirmed to me by someone inside Microsoft, but I thought I'd just pass along that in my Windows 8 CP testing I've verified this to actually be the case.
IE9 and IE10 do not manage the color of web page elements at all, and both interpret image color profiles in images if they're present, but they only convert the colors to sRGB, no matter what monitor profile you're actually using. For calibrated and profiled systems, this yields inaccuracy; for example, with wide gamut monitors the colors of images carrying a profile will always be oversaturated.
Sigh. Progress marches on EVER so slowly.
-Noel

Let me try to help you further:
1. In Illustrator's Swatch settings pallette, should the Spot Color Mode option be set to use:
a. CMYK
b. LAB
c. Book Color (not sure if this refers to the pantone swatchbook)
- I would use "c" - Book Color. This is the file going to the printer which will use Spot Color on press. For a copy of the file to be output by your Canon, use "a" - CMYK.
2. In the View menu should Overprint Preview be checked, and why, and would it differ based on the settings for #1.
- Only if the color was transparent ( which it isn't ) would overprint preview be of any use or you use a tint value of the Spot color and a black, but even then you may not be able to detect any change in the screen view. I typically do not use any overprint preview and I do not rely on the monitor for any color deisions. You could be different and that is OK. Let me know if you are able to detect any deviates using overprint preview.
I'm sorry for being a little short. There is a lot of confusion about these issues and Adobe and Pantone are not making things any easier.
The key is your Canon will not be able to print accurate Spot color without a RIP for the necessary color tables and conversions for that particular printer. In your case, it will be necessary to build a CMYK file to print a somewhat approximate representation of that specific Spot color. Another frustrating part of this matrix is CMYK cannot match all Pantone Spot Colors.

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I color manage everything I do in Photoshop and Lightroom without a hitch.
After Effects CS5 does not color manage correctly. It simply does not work. The only setting I could find for it simply asks if you want it more accurate.
Maybe there are other settings somewhere, but I have not found them.
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I want to be able to see on my wide gamut monitor during AE preview, what I see in Photoshop. I work with stills and thought that AE would simply allow me to view my stills based on my color profile.
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Thanks Curt,
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I tried your suggestion of "use software rendering", just in case, but it made no difference. Appreciate the idea though...
One more observation:
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Hello,
I'm wondering if windows 10 will include a true color management ?
I use a wide gamut screen with and a monitor profiler in order to display right colors.
Currently, despite color management tab where you can choose the monitor's ICC profile, windows 7 and 8 do not take it into account and only few programs really do. It results in wrong colors display in the whole windows environnement especially for wide
gamut monitors.
Has this point been improved in windows 10 ?

How would you suggest it should work in the general case?
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Now, that being said, it's deplorable that so few graphics applications actually DO do proper color-management, especially considering that there are free libraries that can even be built free of charge into commercial software (e.g., LittleCMS).
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transforms the colors to the sRGB color space but does NOT take into account the monitor profile
(and sadly, I just checked to see that this is still true with the experimental IE rendering engine). Nor does it color-manage web page elements (e.g., things colored by HTML). So far only FireFox does it properly, but even then you must
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There's some very good practical info about the problem here:
http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html
There are some who, in frustration and with monitors that are capable, actually deconfigure the wide gamut capabilities of their monitors and just run them as (accurate) sRGB monitors, so that more color will look more accurate in more
different applications. That such settings are available in monitors is testament to how incomplete color-management is and how it's not getting any better.
In answer to my leading question, the "state of the art" (which hasn't changed in a very long time) COULD be made better by Microsoft providing the means for software to express the color space of its imagery to, say, the GPU so that basic color
management could be provided by the system at almost no cost to the application. But this doesn't suit their "touch first" concept (have you noticed that tablets eschew color-management entirely?).
I'm glad to see another person here asking for better from Microsoft. Keep it up!
-Noel
Detailed how-to in my eBooks:
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>Im really interested in what you are doing more, better or differently than everyone else.
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from this website: http://www.normankoren.com/makingfineprints1A.html
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>I was told that only high end displays (NEC, LaCie, Eizo etc @ $1000,00 this being the low end, and up) were the only way to get accurate colors. Others had said that LG and Samsung make a decent display at the $300.00 price point that would deliver good results but not pro level color management.
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