If I archive and install, what else needs to be reinstalled?

Hi
I am considering the Archive and Install option. I performed the upgrade option when originally installing Leopard. Everything in Leopard is working fine and I have NO MAJOR ISSUES. Just a few things: Mouse jumps a little. Performance slows down over time. Etc....ACL Permission issue for ONE FOLDER.
My question is this: I have Aperture, Carrara 3d pro, the usual iLife stuff, TurboCad and a couple of other programs and was wondering what has to be reinstalled after the archive/install to insure the installation is "fresh"
For example, can I take my backed up files and programs from Time Machine into the new install, or do I really need to install EVERYTHING fresh?
Thanks

I have found that results vary. I upgraded 3 Macs to Leopard:
20" 2.4 GHz C2D Alu iMac - about a week old. Files were transferred from older iMac G5 using Migration Assistant.
Performed an Upgrade to Leopard. After upgrade complete login panel came up. When you tried to log into any user account the login panel would disappear, a blue screen would appear for a few seconds, and then you would return to the login panel. After trying safe boot and a couple of other things with no success, I did an Archive & Install and then everything worked OK.
24" 2.4 GHz C2D Alu iMac - about a month old. Files were transferred from older iMac G5 using Migration Assistant.
Performed an Upgrade to Leopard and no problems were encountered.
1.42 GHz iBook G4.
Performed an Upgrade to Leopard and no problems were encountered.
A friend of mine has a new 24" 2.4 GHz C2D Alu iMac. He didn't transfer any files from an old Mac nor install any 3rd party applications. He encountered the same problem I encountered on the first iMac and couldn't log in. Luckily he knew about my experience and used an Archive & Install to fix the problem.

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Archive and Install - what now?

I installed Leopard yesterday via Archive and Install. So far everything is working great. I have never installed a Mac OS before (recent switcher...first upgrade) and Archive and Install felt like an upgrade. Everything is exactly as it was before installing Leopard. My question is what to do with the Previous System folder that was left behind. Do I need it? Do I need to sort through every folder and subfolder to find items that weren't copied over to the new system, or is there an easier way? So far, Leopard is running fine, and I see no need to keep the Previous System folder. I had also cloned my hard drive to an external hard drive. Do I still need a Tiger backup or can I delete it? Thanks in advance for your help.

badefou,
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
If the previous system folder is not on the top level of your Macintosh HD, you probably did not actually use the "Archive and Install" installation feature.
WhatSize is a shareware tool that allows the user to quickly measure the size in bytes of a given folder and all subfolders and files within it.
I noticed that you posted this question in several other threads. If my information will not provide an answer for you, I suggest opening your very own question in this forum. That will get your question noticed better than Hijacking this thread. By the way, I am not chastising you by using that word, just using the common term for adding your question to someone else's question.
;~)

Archive and install - what to with previous system content?

hello
i updated to osx 10.5.1, i did the archive and install
when i went to open my apps foilder, only apple apps were there. all other apps were in the previous syst folder. so, i dragged those apps over to the 'new' apps folder. there were some duplicate apple apps, so i did not drag them over.
my question is, can i dump those 'old' apps?
there are also other annoying files/folders (library, mach.sym, private, system, users). they are silly, can i dump them? machine seems to be running fine withouth them
thanks
wayne

alex
very kind of you to respond
it gets a bit more confusing in the non app folders as to what i need and or do not need.
how can i determine what to keep / throw away.
thanks again
wayne

Archive and install, do i need both discs?

I want to do an archive and install with my mac os 10.5 Install disc. The only problem is that I lost the second disc. Does anyone know if the first disc contains the entire operating system, and maybe the second disc is extra software? I recall in the past the OS discs worked that way. If so I can do my archive and istall.

awrecording wrote:
I want to do an archive and install with my mac os 10.5 Install disc. The only problem is that I lost the second disc. Does anyone know if the first disc contains the entire operating system, and maybe the second disc is extra software?
Since you mention two discs, you're probably referring to the gray discs that came with your computer. In that case, you're right. The second disc contains things like iLife.

Restoring after archive and install

after using 'archive and install', what is the proper procedure for restoring applications, plugins, etc?
1. manually copy?
2. migration assistant?
3. reinstall using disks/installers?

If they are only in the former system you forgot to to preserve your user settings.
How to Archive & Install:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=107120

What to do after an Archive and Install operation?

Hello:
Near the end of a hard drive defrag on the laptop using Drive Genius, something (I am not sure what) caused the computer to shut down before the defrag had finished. Most of the hard drive info. ended up in a folder called Lost and Found. The Directory probably got damaged.
The only solution I could see was to do an Archive and Install operation. The laptop had been backed-up, but the backup was not very current.
DiskWarrior brought the laptop back to life. Some information and apps were manually dragged over from the backup copy. I now have the unsavory task of having to sift through a thousand folders in Lost and Found folder to see if there are any large chunks of folders/files which are salvageable. If I can determine where the files belong, I will drag them there.
Meanwhile, I have a former System Folder in the "Previous System" Folder. Inside is a file named 'mach.sym' and three folders named 'etc, tftpboot and var'.
QUESTIONS:
1. How does a person reclaim the former System Folder back into the rebuilt Hard Drive?
2. Any helpful suggestions or comments .... are we doing the right things to get the laptop back into shape?
Thanks in advance!

Thanks for the assurance note; I will go ahead and trash the former System Folder. I assume the re-installing program dumped the former System Folder into a new folder in order to get it out of the way so that a new System Folder could be installed. I did not remember that the old folder needed to be manually hauled to the trash.
As there are now quite a few folders missing their former data files, I suspect these files are gone for good. So far it does not appear that anything absolutely critical is missing......other than my sanity for being so lax in maintaining scheduled backups!

I did and Archive and Install on MBP with 10.4.11...now what?

I recently performed an "Archive and Install" on my MBP that was having odd random shutdowns (not battery related). Just prior to this I used DiskWarrior 4.0 to fix errors to try to possibly cut down on the shutoffs. All it did was f**k up my machine so bad that as soon as the grey screen and apple logo came up, it was like this grey curtain went down and an "on/off" icon came up saying I had to restart. I was never able to boot my machine off my hard drive again until i did the archive and install. Everything seems fine now.
My question is, I want to get the "old system" folder off my HD since it's taking up a lot of room. how do I know what files are critical and what ones aren't? I copied over my printers folder but all my other data seems to either be where it was before or it got moved over during the archive and install.
Any help on what i HAVE to save before i trash the old system?
Thanks!

Cool, that was my first guess as to what to do. But now the old lockup issue has returned. I had put my MBP to sleep for an hour or so. When I came back up from sleep mode, I got the black box in the middle of the screen with the "on/off" button and the message that I had to restart or shut down. On restart when I clicked "report", the following came up in the box:
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x001A49CB): Unresolved kernel trap (CPU 1, Type 14=page fault), registers:
CR0: 0x80010033, CR2: 0x017b6900, CR3: 0x00e1a000, CR4: 0x000006e0
EAX: 0x01610000, EBX: 0x017b6900, ECX: 0x00000420, EDX: 0x00000000
CR2: 0x017b6900, EBP: 0x25153c38, ESI: 0x00001000, EDI: 0x00000000
EFL: 0x00010202, EIP: 0x0017eaa9, CS: 0x00000008, DS: 0x03860010
Backtrace, Format - Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x25153a18 : 0x128d0d (0x3cc65c 0x25153a3c 0x131f95 0x0)
0x25153a58 : 0x1a49cb (0x3d2a94 0x1 0xe 0x3d22b8)
0x25153b68 : 0x19b3a4 (0x25153b80 0x18c296c 0x0 0x0)
0x25153c38 : 0x15df65 (0x423d220 0x1000 0x0 0x14185d)
0x25153c88 : 0x16214b (0x3f953e8 0x1801000 0x0 0x25153df4)
0x25153d28 : 0x16e29d (0x3f953e8 0x25153df4 0x3f909f8 0x1801000)
0x25153e78 : 0x37558d (0x1803000 0x0 0x3 0x0)
0x25153eb8 : 0x3481e9 (0x1801600 0x0 0xb88 0x0)
0x25153f58 : 0x37b300 (0x3fb67d0 0x48469a0 0x48469e4 0x0)
0x25153fc8 : 0x19b77e (0x483eea0 0x0 0x19e0b5 0x4133348) No mapping exists for frame pointer
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0xb0080be8
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.1: Wed Oct 10 18:23:28 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.25.20~1/RELEASE_I386
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Need help with frozen Archive and Install

I'm trying to run an archive and install for my intel iMac, OS 10.4.11. I get through the first disk fine, but after I put in the 2nd install disk, it gets all the way to the "finishing installation" and then won't move past "running GarageBand Demo Songs Installer Script". it says less than a minute remaining, and the downloading bar is swirling, but there is nothing happening and it hangs here for hours. I've tried restarting, but it will only ask me to load the 2nd disk again, and the same thing happens over and over. Apple even sent me a new install disk 2, and the same thing happened, so I know it's not the disk. Is there a way to push past this?
I did a disk utility repair and it said everything was fine.
WZZZ suggested a custom installation, but I haven't tried it yet because I'm worried I might lose the data on my hard drive. (Stupidly) none of it is backed up. Any advice? Do you think I'll lose my data if I force it start over with disk 1 and do a custom install?
If not, is that the best thing to do?

Hi there, WZZZ is one sharp guy, go for it, (known him since he was knee high to a Grasshopper!
Do you think I'll lose my data if I force it start over with disk 1 and do a custom install?
At worst we should maybe only have complications with several Previous System Folders, but after forcing shutdown reboot do what WZZZ pointed to...
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
*Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.*
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Select your Mac OS X volume.
5. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
That second Disk thing happens frequently, the best way around it is to do a Custom install, and eliminate enough Printer Drivers, Languages, Fonts, and Applications you don't need... then it may skip #2 altogether.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1442

Installing FCS2. Did Archive and Install. Now what?

I got studio 2 today and didn't like the idea of installing it over Studio. I searched and the gurus say don't do it. I'm confused about archive and install. If I do it do I just drag all the Studio apps in the trash after I do the Archive and Install or do I drag the apps in the trash before then install FCS2.
Any help would be appreciated.
Erik

You got that right. I cloned my drive with SuperDuper then used Migration Assistant to move all my settings and users files over. No applications where moved. It was pretty easy. I'm still loading all my programs which is a drag but everything else is already been moved and that would have been a whole lot harder to deal with. I have three users on this Mac. Lots of files and folders. This was the first time I have done this and I did learn a few things. I have been making images of all my software and the updates keeping them all in a folder on a separate drive. next time I have to do this I will just open the image and sit back. No sticking disks in. And its faster. I have Leopard sitting on my desk but not brave enough to try it out just yet. I need a stable edit bay right now. I wish I could get a Intel mac just for FCP. Now that would be sweet. The G5 is still kicken but il bet this Studio 2 upgrade will be the last one for a G5.

I need help to recover/relink mail after archive and install

I am helping my friend fix her 15" G4 PowerBook after memory failures caused many crashes. There was no recovering short of a reinstall via "archive and install". All that worked great, but now Mail doesn't recognize the accounts, mailboxes, signatures, etc. that are still located in the user/library/mail folder.
What's up with that? I can't figure out how to relink Mail to this stuff.
Here's more detail:
1) After lots of prior debugging (Disk Utility, Disk Warrior, Apple Hardware Test, single-user commands per Apple tech notes), I did the A&I to 10.3.4 from the original disks.
2) Per Dr. Smoke and The X Lab, I ran the 10.3.9 combo installer right away so that the "older" system would not get confused by the "newer" stuff in the Previous Systems folder.
3) I Launched Mail and it started anew, i.e. didn't recognize accounts and wanted to start over.
Thanks for any help.

The account settings are stored in HOME/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist. It looks like that file became corrupt -- maybe its permissions went awry (Disk Utility cannot fix that) and Mail just deleted the file to create a new one.
If your friend doesn't have a backup copy of that file, just set up the accounts from scratch all over again. If given the option to import existing mailboxes or something like that, don't. Just enter the account information and Mail will automagically rediscover the data in HOME/Library/Mail/ when done.
You'll also have to re-configure most settings in Mail > Preferences. For spam-related security reasons, the first thing you should do is go to Preferences > Viewing and disable Display remote images in HTML messages if it's enabled.

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Hi txatxo
Thanks for using Apple Support Communities. You may need to restart the Apple Mobile Device Service. This article has instructions for doing this:
How to restart the Apple Mobile Device Service (AMDS) on Windows
http://support.apple.com/kb/ts1567
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Removing and reinstalling iTunes and other software components for Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1923
Cheers,
- Ari

Can't Print PDF/Folders Need Password To Opem After Archive and Install

Greetings:
I did a archive and install on my 10.4.11 eMac because of ever sluggish performance and Safari 3.1.1 and QuickTime 1.4 problems (gotta be a better way than all that!). First, maybe by my shakey hand or because of bills, I somehow did the archive and install twice in succession, ending up with 2 previous system folders. (The second one doesn't contain any personal goodies). But I've lost my prefs and happily I regularly Sync Firefox/Thunderbird separately so they weren't lost in the grand sweep-up. I dumped the library folder in the 1st Previous System folder into the "new" System folder's (blank) library one and retrieved most of my functionality. What I can't do now is Print PDFs and annoyingly, most every other system folder wants my permissions password before I can use it. This sneaky lock-out kept NeoOffice from booting for hours despite reinstalling it several times before I realized the NeoOffice folder in the library folder was locked. Unfortunately, Safari seems to choke when you type a password or characters into some input windows, like some kind of auto-fill was trying beat you and gets hung.
How can I kill all these pesky permissions off and how do I recover Print PDF?
Thanks.
James Greenidge

Hi,
Could you clarify this... seems to cover an awful lot of ground...
Did everything standard in print what should be done.

I am having problems installing new software for my ipod i keep getting a message that the network has timed out. I have tried two different computers and networks what else can I do?

I am having problems installing new software for my ipod
I keep getting a message that the network has timed out.
I have tried two different computers and networks what else can I do?

Try temporarily disabling your firewall and anti virus software and try again...
See here for Connection Issues
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1379
From Here
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Need help with archive and install

I'm doing and archive and install. The first try was with a defective retail version of OS X Tiger, which did part of the job then stalled. Now I've been able to get a good DVD of this and was able to do an archive and install,although I couldn't check the box to save user settings etc., On the screen it gives me 3 options transfer info from another mac, transfer info from another partition on this mac or do not transfer my info. I'm new to all this, because of the first failed archive and install do I transfer the info from another partition or not transfer at all and find the old folder later on in the process?

Hi D,
I couldn't check the box to save user settings etc.
I think that is due to the partial previous install moving things to a Previous System folder, but not finshing.
Let's see if that's what happened... if you have 2 Macs with Firewire this could be a lot easier.
Oh, do you have a Backup?
"Try Disk Utility
1. Insert the Mac OS X Install disc that came with your computer, then restart the computer while holding the C key.
2. When your computer finishes starting up from the disc, choose Disk Utility from the Installer menu. (In Mac OS X 10.4 or later, you must select your language first.)
Important: Do not click Continue in the first screen of the Installer. If you do, you must restart from the disc again to access Disk Utility.
3. Click the First Aid tab.
4. Click the disclosure triangle to the left of the hard drive icon to display the names of your hard disk volumes and partitions.
5. Select your Mac OS X volume.
6. Click Repair. Disk Utility checks and repairs the disk."
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106214
After quitting DU, look for Terminal in that Menu Bar, open that and type in this...
Wait, let's hear if you have another Mac or Boot Disk first...

Error at the end of Archive and Install; Need Quicktime reinstall quickly!

I got all the way through an Archive and Install and at the very end it said there was an error in the process. Everytime I do it, same thing.
I'm trying to reinstall Quicktime 6 because I've read Final Cut Pro 4 doesn't work well with QT 7—I downloaded it recently. FPC performance has been horrible ever since!
I followed the easy step by step process Apple provides for Archive and Install but it doesn't work in the end. I'm trying to reinstall Quicktime 6. Currently working with 10.3.9. My original disks are 10.3.
I'm running off the original disks; don't know why it won't do it.
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I already had, the problem is not covered on that page.
I'd had no response within a few hours so I had to force the Powerbook to shut down. On rebooting, it only got as far as the Apple logo and the progress wheel. I left it for half an hour and it got no further. I reset the PRAM again (I'd already done it before the actions detailed in the original post). Nothing. I tried again to Safe Boot. Nothing - not even the login screen.
I then tried to re-install OS X 10.5 - this time the option to 'update' was available which I did. It automatically restarted but still would not proceed beyond the Apple logo and progress wheel.
That's how things stand now. I have given up for the day but I can't think of any other course of action apart from a complete erase and install but that would be far to drastic because unfortunately, despite my insistence last time there were problems, nothing has been backed up.
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