If I send my Zen Touch in to Creative, will they delete my da

Here's the story. I got a Zen Touch from my parents for Christmas, and I was thrilled. I put on about 9 GB of music in the first few weeks. Then, poof, it freezes my computer when I try to connect to it. It was working fine the day before, and nothing special had happened, and I most certainly did not mistreat it. So I thought fine, I'll just try to figure it out later. Then, lo and behold, a few weeks after, it begins freezing. Every few minutes, it froze. Now, it freezes every few seconds. Firstly, a big thanks to Creative for spitting in my face. Secondly, my question now is: If I mail my Zen Touch to Creative, will they delete all the data on it, because I don't have a backup copy. If anyone could tell me from experience that this will not happen I'd be delighted, because there's over 2500 mp3's on it and they're rather important to me. Thankns.

I'm not surprised, darkone. We have an affinity for those who are like us. Additionally, the fact that they've sold millions of players is irrelevant. Have you ever heard of the medecine that many pregnant women took a few decades ago to relieve pain during pregancy, and then their babies were deformed or mentally handicapped? The number of units sold is not important. A million mothers took the drug, a million mothers had deformed babies.
Anyways, seeing as we can't stay on topic, and the question's been answered, lock this thread, please.
Message Edited by Irrelevant on 0-28-2005 05:42 PM

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The Creative Zen Touch Movement: Active Creative Us

Who out there wants a skin for their Creative Zen Touch? Who is tired of the monopoly that Vaja cases has and forces you to buy their horrific case for 70 Big Ones? Who is tired of the Creative Case that is included and is extremely bulky and doesnt even have a screen to see what you are doing? Are you not tired of having to take the Zen Touch of the cases everytime you want to do something? Are you tired of users that have Iri'ver and Apple's Ipod having infinite accessory choices while you are limited to 2 case choices? If your answers to these questions were yes, this is the new movement for you. This movement will bombard companies like Iskin and xSkin with emails asking them to provide a Creative Zen touch alternati've for cases that are protecti've, photogenic, and sleek. This method works because Iskin and xskin want to make $$$ and with more emails they know they will make more money. My Ipod counterparts show off their Ipods and protecti've them with the xskin exo3 which is only 0.7mm thick, and cannot defend my creative zen touch because I have a bulky case that makes it 3 times as big. With a skin, my creative will be protected from scratchs, perfect for style points, and i dont have to take it out of a case everytime I want to change anything. This movement worked on the Iri'ver site where they overloaded the system with emails for Iri'ver skin requests, and 3 months later, Iskin rolls out a skin for the Iri'ver. We can do the same. I encourage you to assist me in this movement so we can bring the Creative Zen Touch to the top of all mp3 players trampling the Ipod and Iri'ver alltogether. Now whos with me? Its time for action because we are the Acti've Creative Zen Touch Users
We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

actually about the skin thing
if u wanna change the skin of your touch you ll have to brake the warranty patch that is over a screw and with it end your warranty time.
for stuff that sticks over the case its alright
and yes there should be more accessories to this thing
have fun

I just sent back my zen touch...what can I expe

After sending my zen touch back when can I expect to get it's I don't really want a generic answer here. I dont want the creative answer but I would like to hear maybe from someone else who has had to send theirs back. I also have 2 other questions if anyone has done this before.
. Do they send me a new unit or my original one?
2. Do they typically not make you pay for the unit if it is a headphone jack issue even if it is after the 90 day warranty?
Thanks for the help

Anecdotally it takes a week or two, but I can't guarantee that will be the case for you.
. Normally it's a new unit. Don't forget to backup the music on your current player.
2. For an Xtra this was the case. I'm not sure this is the case for a Zen Touch.Message Edited by SSR on 02-24-2005 0:45 AM

Repairs to Zen Touch 40gb in UK

Hi,
i have had a zen touch 40gb unit for nearly 2 years. Very pleased overall but like many things the newer models get smaller and lighter.
However, like many others on this forum, i have dropped the unit and now the touch pad / front buttons wont work. I had 5000+ songs on, which i deleted so i could update the firmware etc.
I contacted Customer Services and was told that they don't do this model no more and cannot accept it for repair. They offered me to purchase an Vision M or Vision at a discounted rate to compensate me for my troubles.
This raised a few thoughts - Do Creative have major problems with this and other models and find a way round it by offering other models? I find it hard to beli've that so many people have had same problems and not got the issues resolved. It seems once it packs up, thats it - finito!!
I have ordered a new Vision M (as i was planning to purchase it anyway, with the proceeds of my Zen Touch contributing to it).
Does anyone know where i could send my Zen Touch to be repaired in the UK. It seems criminal to have a 40gb unit going to waste, particularly as it still plays tunes. I just need someone to repair the touch pad and buttons. It could be something very simple, but I am no TECHY!!
I would appreciate any help.
regards
Manthevab

John
Thanks for your quick response.
Without going into the whole story - I knew it was out of warranty therefore i wasnt expecting a replacement, however I expected the offer of at least a REPAIR.
I am not an expert with these players, but i assume something has slipped inside the unit and this has made the right hand side buttons and touch pad redundant.
I accept what you are saying about replacing with a newer model at a discounted rate, however i paid over ?230 two years ago and did not expect to be paying again 2 years later, except in a case where i sold my old one to part fund a new one.
I now have a 40gb hard dri've player, which is unusable. I just want to know if there is a company that might be able to fix the problem for me.
John, if you can help, i would appreciate it.
Regards
Manthevab

Where is my zen touch firmw

I've been waiting patiently but 3 upgrades for the micro and none for the touch wtf come on please creative throw us touch users a frickin bone.

You and the rest of us Zen Touch users. I wish they'd at least tell us when they plan on getting it out.

I have lost my installation CD for my Creative Zen Touch, how can i get a new one plea

Any help would be brilliant.

Here are direct links. Download the following files and install them in the order I listed:
NOTE: This is if you are using Windows XP
) Creative Media Source:
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=0274&dlcentric=868&Product_N ame=ZEN+Touch&OSName=Windows+XP
2) Creative Zen/Nomad Plugin for MediaSource:
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=0274&dlcentric=9320&Product_ Name=ZEN+Touch&OSName=Windows+XP
3) Creative Nomad Explorer (for acessing your zen directly from My Computer)
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=0274&dlcentric=8069&Product_ Name=ZEN+Touch&OSName=Windows+XP
4) Drivers for your Zen Touch
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product=0274&dlcentric=00098&Product _Name=ZEN+Touch&OSName=Windows+XP
That should cover all the things on the Zen Touch CD, if you install them in that order everything should go fine
If you notice anything missing, ask back, I have my Zen Touch CD somewhere around my room and can look up to see if theres anything that you should have gotten.

Zen Touch, Transfer Ra

Has anybody actually measured the transfer rates using various software to the Zen Touch? (ie Creative MediaSource, WMP0, etc.). I have tried 3 programs, WMP0, MediaSource and Yahoo Music Engine. My perception is that Mediasource is the fastest, YME second, and WMP0 is the slowest. However, that's just a perception--never measured it nor do I know how to measure it.

I've also seen varying rates mentioned, particularly WMP being slow for the older Zens. Although I'm not sure why this should be, other than for some processing overhead, as they're all using the same drivers.
To measure the data rate is pretty easy. Transfer across a reasonable number of files, say 00Mb+. Then simply time how long it takes (using a stopwatch, second-hand of your watch etc.). Then divide the amount of data (easily done by selecting the files transferred, and right-clicking to get their properties) by the time taken. Usually data rates are quoted in Mb/s.
With USB I used to get a fairly horrific 300kb/s. With firewire I used to get around 3Mb/s. And with my latest computer and USB2 I'm getting around 5Mb/s.

Difference between Zen Touch and Zen X

Can any one help. Why is the Zen Extra 60 GB less then the 40GB Zen Touch??
http://ayamari.com/

The Zen Touch is a newer model, and physically smaller.
Featurewise, check out:
Zen Touch: http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=23&subcategory=24&product=027 4
Zen Xtra: http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=23&subcategory=24&product=928 8

How Can I Ensure My Zen Touch Has The PlaysForSure Upgra

I recently sent my 20 gigabyte Zen Touch back to Creative for a Hardware repair. I got it back last Friday "Like New". But I'm not sure it has the PFS upgrade installed. So here's my Stupid Question:
How can I make sure it does?

Click the menu option-choose information, from the information screen, you'll be able to tell what version of the firmware your Touch has installed.

Creative Zen Touch DAP-HD0014

Hi, I have a problem with this, when it boots up it says firmware problem and boots to recovery mode. I've downloaded the firmware and am unable to update it as there is a message saying not connected. I have tried USB ports on front & rear on my PC and with different cables. Any ideas would be gratefully received!

The zen touch has to to be installed as a?WPD instead of a MTP. The process of rolling back the windows media takes out the auto to make it's a MTP.
So I suggest to the creative dudes is make a driver that loads the players as a WPD and the upgrade will work on all the players.
Everybody that lets it load as a MTP will never get the Upgrade button to work.
Very simple problem. Yes. But how do you get it to install as creative zen touch WPD. You will have to do alot of things to your computer and then luckily it will load as a WPD.
I am asking the creative team to modify the Upgrade installer to recognize the new MTP for the Upgrade installer the simplest solution. Alittile GIU programming guys.
I await the the new Upgrade installer.
PS The whole purpose for the upgrade is to be in MTP mode. Once it reboots the first time the upgrade installer should recognize the player as a MTP no matter what! Then we could hit the upgrade buton to install the firmware 2..0.
Hellloooooo

Zen Touch Drivers, Use CD not Web? But w

I had my 40GB Zen touch installed and running nicely on my system running XP service pack 2 using the drivers from the web. I also own a Nomad Jukebox 3 and firgured that since the driver file is the same for both devices (at least on the website it seems that way) that I could just connect the JB3 and it would work. Well it was recognized but, I received errors transfering files using Explorer, and it was not working properly. So I uninstalled the Creative Jukebox Drivers, and re-installed them. I then connected the JB3 and it worked flawlessly. BUT NOW the Zen Touch is not installing properly. I was only able to install both previosly when I used the touch driver cd on another machine, as well as the driver available for download for the JB3.
Why would Creative not have the same driver for download for the Zen Touch on the website as they include on the cd? Is anyone else having similiar issues? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Hey SSR. Basically using this driver, I can only install one device and have it work properly. I first had installed this driver and used it with the touch alone, and no problems. But when I connected the NBJ, it was running extremely slow (I am aware it is ussb .), I mean much slower than normal, and I wasn't able to transfer files with explorer. I received an error message to the liking of, "this file is unacessable". So like I said, I uninstalled the driver. Re-installed, connecting the NBJ first. and it worked no problem. But connecting the touch again it wasn't recognized. So I am left to belei've that with this driver, I am unable to have both devices work and installed properly on the same system. Others must be have had a similiar issue with this driver. Not too long ago I tried installing with the same driver on another systems and was not succesfull. I tried everything, using a different port, differnt cable, uninstalling, re-installing. The only thing that seemed to work was the cd driver. I am sticking with that, but I feel this needs to be addressed.
Message Edited by jbgigolo on 03-5-2005 :02 PM

Buying Zen Touch in

I'm going to Orlando, Florida this July, and I heard alot of people are buying MP3 players cheaper out there. i was thinking of getting a 20GB Zen Touch out there. Will there be any compatability issues when I bring it back to the UK?

gerjomarty wrote:
I didn't even think of customs. And yes, you are exempt if you claim it's a gift. Is it the same product they sell in Europe and the US then?
Message Edited by gerjomarty on 06-7-2005 06:3 AM
It's identical, except for the plug. Hence you'll need to use a socket adapter, which are easy enough to find.

A post, Zen Touch Owners might consider and an Open Letter to Creative. L

Creative needs to take some COORPERATE PRIDE as regards one of their products, that until recently was the FLAG SHIP of their hard-dri've based line of D.A.P. s,
By using the Napster-To-Go Subscription Service, I spent the better part of last weekend loading up my Touch 40 GB player with reams of music. At about the 9 GB point on the hard dri've, the seek head would no longer write to the platters and after a time out, stopped with a subsequent TRANSFER ERROR coming up.
Bummer.
OK.
I phoned Creative, got an RMA number and shipped it off for a hard-dri've replacement at the least, a totally new unit sent promptly back at the best.
Being bummed out that I probably wouldn?t see a new TOUCH 40 GB returned to me for the most part of two weeks to a month (by some of the reports via this thread), and being that I wanted a FLASH DRIVE so I could use a D.A.P. in places where intelligence dictated that a hard-dri've based player is going to experience hard-dri've shock/abuse (like being on your bicycle, jogging, cross-country skiing, etc?.all forms of outdoor activity) so?being that I did not now have my TOUCH to listen to (I am a music-aholic) I went out on Saturday and purchased an IRIVER T0 GB flash player.
Being this is a Creative board, I won?t go into a RAVE on how good and feature packed this D.A.P. is. Just suffice to say that if you would like a D.A.P. for when being acti've, or as a back-up to the TOUCH 40/20, THIS IS THE PLAYER TO CONSIDER.
Now, amongst features heaped upon features this player has, never mind the FANTASTIC sonic output it puts out in sound fidelity and reams of non-distorted volume (I use a set of BOSE TRI-PORTS that need a setting of 8 on the Zen Touch, but with the Iri'ver T0, I am right now (as I type) listening to Gloria Estefan?s CONGA at a volume setting of 2 out of a possible 30!!!! It is just that good!
Now, what is this post doing on a Creative Forum board?
The answer lays in the next few sentences/thoughts?.
Amongst 2 EQUALIZATION presets, that ALL so differently shape the sound wave (they again, are THAT good, including SRS (WOW) is a CUSTOM EQUALIZATION pad that covers the following frequency ranges:
50K /200K/ K/ 3K/ 4K/ (adjustable from ?0/+0
It was in using this EQUALIZATION PAD, that is was so totally demonstrated to myself how truly abused we are as Creative Ltd. Customers having all of us, purchased a Zen Touch D.A.P. from this company. I paid $300.00 dollars for my Zen Touch 40 GB and it was deli'vered to me straight out of the package with a DEFECTIVE Custom Equalization feature, that is made defecti've by inferiorly produced Creative code in their Zen Touch Firmware, the very ?heart? of the product, driving and deli'vering all the features(?) on the Zen TOUCH 20/40 GB.
It is one thing to release defecti've code, if the defect was not caught by (hopefully) Creative upon the launch of the product, but with ENOUGH paying customers having made this defect well known and so WELL DOCUMENTED back to Creative Ltd. and in the many MONTHS since the defect was found in the FIRMWARE that dri'ves the TOUCH, and yet, and UNBELIEVABLY so, the defect yet remains (if in fact now even more profound!) in their latest version of the Zen TOUCH firmware!!!
Ladies and Gentlemen, who are now reading this post, ------by having had the extreme PLEASURE in owning a D.A.P. (newly acquired Iri'ver T0) with all features advertised upon the package ***WORKING***, right out of that package, let alone with such amazing performance deli'very, I now declare that I will wait a reasonable (not months any more, BUT ONLY A FEW WEEKS FROM THIS POST DATE) period of time to elapse before I see a FIRMWARE release and/or patch from this company, Creative Ltd., to ***FINALLY*** address this broken Custom Equalization feature ?offered? within the Zen Touch firmware.
Now in having custom set the ranges of frequencies in the Iri'ver T0 to JUST how I like my music----I have to tell you Folks----IT DOES make a TREMENDOUS difference to the sound and your PERSONAL expectations of it!
A Custom Equalization feature is THAT important to have on a sonic device, let alone a fully WORKING ONE, bug free!
To Creative:----a personal comment:
 I have been a loyal customer of yours from the mid 90?s by having purchased EXCLUSIVELY from you, my sound cards, as well as your line of VIDEO CARDS. I have been a most faithful repeat customer having never seen to date your company so delaying/ignoring the defecti've broken issues from one of your FLAG SHIP sonic products.
I spent $79.00 (far below the asking price of your Zen Touch product line) last Saturday on an Iri'ver T0 GB flash player that (with obvious pride of manufacture from Iri'ver Ltd.) works as advertised, works with the present FIRMWARE installed in the device at the TIME OF PURCHASE and PRODUCT RELEASE, and has earned my respect in putting out such a feature-rich product and with obviously, such Cooperate Pride.
Creative Ltd, if you do not put human resources immediately on releasing a patch that brings the Zen Touch FIRMWARE to a bug-free condition that it should have been when having been released with the product launch, I will consider no longer you as the stalwart CREATIVE company of old, that once DID HAVE SUCH COOPERATE PRIDE in any and all models of hardware they produced or sent out with their name upon it.
I will no longer purchase from your company, fearing that as I hold the product in my hands at the store, the features that I am there to purchase will NOT be deli'vered ?out of the box? due to inferior workmanship in materials, in SOFTWARE CODING, and a lack of Quality Control that dictates nothing leaves the plant until the Chief Technology Officer and his staff can sign off on that product?s quality and being fit for release to the Consumer and potential Customer.
I hope that the Moderator of this forum sends this post to whomever it will have cause to see the crippled firmware inside the Touch finally be brought up to quality standards that was the mandate of the Creative Ltd. of past years.
If this post has to reach the desk of the C.E.O of CREATIVE Ltd., then let it be sent there!
Creative Ltd, you are losing Customers hand-over-fist that won?t bother to sit down and type out/compose this letter/post, but will merely resolve to NEVER AGAIN look at, let alone buy one of your present, or future products. Nobody likes to have a ?broken and crippled? product---RIGHT OUT OF THE PACKAGE! Nobody should have to experience that when hard-earned money is being exchanged for it!
A present Creative Ltd. financial supporter,
(Sesquash)
Michigan, U.S.A.


I wrote the following e-mail to Creative Support today. If they can't respond to a polite, reasoned e-mail like this then I will never buy another Creative product again!
I will post again when Creative respond to me, with a bit (well, more than a bit, more like a billion tonnes) of luck they will be able to say whether they even PLAN to fix the Custom EQ problem.
All the best, everyone.
<E-mail>
Dear Support,
I recently (0-Nov-05) purchased a Creative Zen Touch 40GB mp3 player, and I am generally very happy with it. The battery life is great, and I was happy with the quality of design and build compared to the (relati'vely) affordable purchase price.
However, my query/complaint concerns the new firmware release for the Zen Touch, version 2.0.05 (MTP support for Zen Touch). I have uploaded the new firmware to my Zen Touch (and also the relevant updates for the Creative software: Media Organiser, Zen Touch Explorer etc), and have experienced no problems in loading this new firmware to my player or my computer.
Generally, I have no problems with the performance of the new firmware: my files transfer easily and quickly between my mp3 player and my computer, and (using Windows XP SP2, and WMPv0) I have experience no compatibility issues, as one would hope.
However, I do take issue with the Custom EQ bug that the new firmware accentuates on the Zen Touch. I am sure that Support has doubtless been contacted by other people regarding this problem, but to summarise, with version 2.0.05 of the firmware installed, usage of the Custom EQ function on the Zen Touch severely impaires the volume of the player, and consequently the enjoyment of myself, the customer.
I would like to ask Support whether Creative plans a 'fix' firmware update to eliminate this bug in the firmware in the near future? I am not concerned with any new features to the player with a future firware 'fix' release (although they would not be unwelcome!), since Creative did not promise any such features in the first place. However, I feel that since Creative advertised the Zen Touch as having a customisable graphic equaliser - from Creative's own press release: "Supporting both WMA and MP3 formats, the Zen Touch deli'vers crystal-clear audio, thanks to a signal to noise ratio of 98dB, which can be customised using the built-in, four-band graphic equalizer with eight equalization presets." - a firmware update should not render an advertised feature of the product effecti'vely useless.
Please could Support acknowledge the disappointment I feel with this fairly fundamental flaw to an official product upgrade, and provide assurances (or take measures to seek assurances from whoever makes decisions upon such issues) that a firmware 'fix' update will be released in the near future?
I end by saying that I have only ever bought Creative mp3 players, and to date I have been happy with the products I have purchased, but if basic product flaws such as the Custom EQ being 'broken' by official firmware updates are allowed to go unaddressed (especially with the fact that this has doubtless come to Creative's attention through Support/the official discussion forums etc) then Creative may lose customers like myself in the future to rival companies.
Thanks for your time, and I await your reply.
Kind regards,
Lawrie Ward
</E-mail>

A Petition to ask Creative to update the firmware of the Zen Touch to Include EAX capabiliti

Hi. I have been looking for a new hard dri've MP3 player and am thinking about getting the Zen Touch. But I was unhappy that creative removed the EAX functions that were in their other players. I will be sending this to creative to show them that people do like EAX in the player. If you would like to help me with this you can post and leave your name. Thanks! This was taken off of the creative Zen Extra?s website describing EAX: Customize Your Audio Playback with Innovati've EAX? Technologies Advanced EQ lets you customize your music playback with Equalizer presets or set your own using the 4-band custom equalizer Smart Volume Management? adjusts the playback volume of all the tracks on your playlist so they will remain at the same level without you reaching for the volume control between songs! Time Scaling speeds up or slows down an audio track with no distortion Sleep Timer and Wake to Music Feature Environmental Effects simulate audio environments such as "Concert Hall" or "Arena" Spatialization Effects expand your soundstage
See here: http://eax.creative.com/nomad/ To go to the EAX website to learn some more.
If you look HERE on the little flash demo you can see in the LCD screen of the touch that this picture of the touch HAS EAX. If the touch had EAX and creative removed it just before selling it then it must be easy to put back in.
Update:

Hi everyone.
So I just went through all through posts to see how many names we have, and it turns out that there was much more discution than I thought there was. With all the names from the thread and from what UT-king has added we have ~556~ names. Its less than what I thought it was, but its still really good.
The thread has been read 6795 times, has been posted on 36 times, and has a 5 star rating.
Thanks every one for helping me with this !
Here is the post that has the signatures that UT-King has collected. http://forums.americas.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=4732#M4732 You will need to scroll down a bit as it is the 5th post on that page
Uptaded on 4/27/05

Message Edited by Torstein on 04-28-2005 06:54 AM


Spetznaz24 wrote:
I agree, Creative needs to put the EAX function back and allow for it to be USB MASS Storage Device without drivers,
Sergey K.
I agree with the EAX Function back, and also the USB MASS Storage Device.dzyl-

Creative Zen Touch Skin PLEEEAASSEEE HELP!!!

Who out there wants a skin for their Creative Zen Touch? Who is tired of the monopoly that Vaja cases has and forces you to buy their horrific case for 70 Big Ones? Who is tired of the Creative Case that is included and is extremely bulky and doesnt even have a screen to see what you are doing? Are you not tired of having to take the Zen Touch of the cases everytime you want to do something? Are you tired of users that have Iri'ver and Apple's Ipod having infinite accessory choices while you are limited to 2 case choices? If your answers to these questions were yes, this is the new movement for you. This movement will bombard companies like Iskin and xSkin with emails asking them to provide a Creative Zen touch alternati've for cases that are protecti've, photogenic, and sleek. This method works because Iskin and xskin want to make $$$ and with more emails they know they will make more money. My Ipod counterparts show off their Ipods and protecti've them with the xskin exo3 which is only 0.7mm thick, and cannot defend my creative zen touch because I have a bulky case that makes it 3 times as big. With a skin, my creative will be protected from scratchs, perfect for style points, and i dont have to take it out of a case everytime I want to change anything. This movement worked on the Iri'ver site where they overloaded the system with emails for Iri'ver skin requests, and 3 months later, Iskin rolls out a skin for the Iri'ver. We can do the same. I encourage you to assist me in this movement so we can bring the Creative Zen Touch to the top of all mp3 players trampling the Ipod and Iri'ver alltogether. Now whos with me? Its time for action because we are the Acti've Creative Zen Touch Users
We are sending emails to these sites
http://www.iskin.com/store/I2feedback.tpl
On this site fill in your name and email and then paste this message (below) into the comment zone:
The Creative Zen Touch Skin Movement
This is the Creative Movement brought to you by Creative Zen Touch users. We have had enough with the horrible cases that are offered to us as choices. We are look to towards you for salvation. We kindly ask that you create a skin for the Creative Zen Touch, our forums are overloaded with request. The market for a skin for the Zen Touch has great potential to grow and we offer you as our first choice to do so. We are tired of the Ipod and Iri'ver users who can show off their sleek mp3 player complimented by a sleek skin and a screen protector. We wish we can do the same. We want to level the playing field for all mp3 players and we are asking you to do so. I have talked to over 80,000 creative zen touch users via the Creative Forum and they are all urging for a skin and are willing to buy it. That is a great potential market you have in front of you. Thank you for your deep consideration. This movement is lead by Creative user dmai7.
- Your Concerned and Ambitious Customer

my god, THANK YOU FOR SOMEONE SAYING THIS, man, they got em out there, but only in the UK, and i dont know about you, but i li've in the US and im dying for the exspect skins to be in the us, can SOMEONE please tell me where to get them in the US or someone make them, cmon guys at creative, if they can do it, you sure can

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