ILife on a Refurb Powerbook.

Hey everybody, I have a question about the refurbs.
I'm thinking of getting a 12" powerbook, and I was wondering if I bought it from the online store, would it come with iLife 06? Or would it just come with 05?
Thanks for the help!

Hi Marlinspike,
Welcome to Apple Discussions
Sorry, the answer is no:
"includes the operating software originally shipped with the unit and the custom software offered with that system. See each products "Learn More" for more details."
Taken from Apple Certified Refurbished Products link on the Apple Store.
Also, if you click the 'Learn More' link on the items listed you get this information:
"The PowerBook G4 comes with an advanced operating system, Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger. The PowerBook G4 also comes with iLife ’05, including iTunes, iPhoto, iMovie HD, iDVD and GarageBand.
Note: Other software may or may not be included (pre-installed or on CD's/DVD's) with refurbished products, subject to availability."
Regards,
Colin R.

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NiniP
Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
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