Illustrator CC 18.0.0 Snapping/Smart Guides STILL Broken?!

I know this issue has had some coverage but I'm still extremely frustrated that with all the new features in AI, snapping to guides, anchors, lines, or whatever, is still not precise. I just don't understand why they can't seem to get this right. What is the point of snapping if it's always going to be off by a few thousandths of a pixel? Working with what is supposed to be the world's best illustration application, I still have to make adjustments with the transform panel. Isn't it about time they fix this issue, or am I the crazy one?

I gave a couple of examples but I'll go ahead and repeat it:
Say you have 2 points that aren't joined and you want to join them. So, you grab an anchor, drag it over (holding 'ctrl' so it snaps to other anchors) and as you get close it snaps and says 'anchor', then you select both points with a fence, then join them. Now deselect then select the new point and drag it. At least 25% of the time, it doesn't join two points, it averages them, creating a third point. This is especially frustrating when joining paths that have curves, and that mask or reveal other objects. I do a lot of designs that must be pixel-precise and that is a lot more work than it should be in AI.
I have used several other vector programs and none of them have this weird, inconsistent behavior.
Here's another example: Create a rectangle 100x100. Then drag a guide to one side, then the other. The guides should be exactly 100px apart, right? Maybe. Delete the rectangle and draw a line between the two guides. Chances are they are no longer 100px apart. They are 99.003 or 101.003 or something, making AI the worst tool ever for doing website mockups. It's actually less trouble for me to bang out CSS in Brackets and do mockups that way... but not because Brackets is meant for that, but because AI sucks for it, and that's idiotic.
I am seriously considering ending my CC subscription and going with a combo of open source apps. I mean, if I'm going to struggle with something, I'd prefer for that effort to go to learning something new, not fighting the same fight over and over, for years and years, on something that should be easily fixed.

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So, I did the Move the Folder but ... dang'it I'm slow at times ... and so, I am unsure if I followed your directions right ...
I signed into my computer under admin and then when I searched my C drive for the Adobe Illustrator CS6 Settings folder ... two folders came up
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I do not have align to pixel grid or snap to grid turned on
It sounds as if Illy thinks the former.
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1) Close down Illy and open again;
2) Restart the computer;
3) Close down Illy and press Ctrl+Alt+Shift/Cmd+Option+Shift during startup (easy but irreversible);
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5) Look through and try out the relevant among the Other options (Item 7) is a list of usual suspects among other applications that may disturb and confuse Illy, other items may also be relevant);
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http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

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If I draw two boxes, grab the anchor point in the corner of one box, and try and drag it to the anchor of the other box, Smart Guides will no longer snap to that anchor.
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To my understanding, no version of Illustrator before has ever made you do this. So that's great, after upgrading I have an extra button press to my common workflow. Awesome.
Now if you asked me why I would have told you that I had been in the rectangle tool so I was holding don the Command key to switch to the direct selection tool.
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oh shoot, i just answered my own question. i was trying to figure out what the heck was going on and i started holding down different modifiers to see what happens (shift, control, alt) and i found something new! wow! i'm so excited!! holding down control when using smart guides gives snapping preference to the edge you are holding with the mouse! i think this should be default, but in any case its good to know it aint broke!
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