Illustrator CS3/CS2 text engine comaptibility with CS

Is the text engine in Illustrator CS2 and CS3 backward compatible with Illustrator CS? We are considering upgrading to a newer version but need to understand the impact on the original text - much of which is in foreign languages.

The basic text engine changed at AI 11 (CS) and, to the best of my knowledge, has remained the same since.
If you can't get a clear answer from Adobe on this, post a small test file created in AI 11. (Use a font we're likely to have, e.g, Arial Unicode.) Those of us here with 12 and 13 will then open it and report the results.
If you haven't yet seen it,
here
is Mordy Golding's original post on the new text engine, now archived as FAQ #5.

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Illustrator CS3 No Text when opening PDF

This happens to certain .pdf files when opened in Adobe Illustrator 13.0.x.
http://www.cigar3tte.net/images/illustrator_error1.jpg
(The scratches are from me, to take out company info)
Note that all the fields are blank, but when the file is opened in Adobe Acrobat 6.0, all those fields are filled with the proper information.
I have looked at 3 different computers loaded with Illustrator 13.0.x, and 2 of them are doing this, while 1 has no problems at all. I'm unable to find the different at the moment.
Hopefully some of you know what's going on and can help me solve this.

>Note that all the fields are blank, but when the file is opened in Adobe Acrobat 6.0, all those fields are filled with the proper information.
>I have looked at 3 different computers loaded with Illustrator 13.0.x, and 2 of them are doing this, while 1 has no problems at all. I'm unable to find the different at the moment.
>
It seems the PC's have issues with Helvetica.
Ah... the missing piece of the puzzle.
Illustrator ignores fonts embedded in PDF documents. Illustrator assumes you want to
edit rather than simply
view the document, so it insists that you have the necessary fonts installed on your system.
The PCs on which you can read the document properly (in Illustrator) have Helvetica installed.

Illustrator CS3 and Autocad DWG layers

When I open a DWG file in Illustrator CS2, the "Open" dialog box has a check box to "merge layers." If I don't check the box, the DWG file opens with layers intact. I don't see that option when I open the same DWG file in Illustrator CS3 and the file opens with layers flattened. Is this option located somewhere else?

I'm in the same boat as everyone here. Kind of stunned that they would take this option away. Its not really a very workable solution for me unless I can keep the layer structure. Actually worse than the layer structure, is that closed plines become individual line segments so you can't just define a fill color.
I know there are a few plugins for CS2, but they don't show support for CS3 yet. Has anyone heard from any of the plugin creators, or from Adobe, about plans to address this. Here are the plugins I found.
http://www.baby-universe.co.jp/plug-in/eng/products/exdxf-pro/index.html
http://www.hotdoor.com/index.php?content=cs3features&navcontent=none
I remember when Adobe switched form PageMaker to InDesign that they made a stand alone application (included with InDesign) to convert from one format to the other). If they don't fix Illustrator, even this kind of approach would be fine for me (but still not as good as from within the application).
So what are the work arounds.
- OK, I guess the best is to keep CS2 around, but we have people in the office who bought CS3 as a full purchae, vs. upgrade, so they don't have that option.
- Well fixing the layers while time consuming could be done (but not good option). If autocad file is setup color by layer, with each layer having unique color, you could use select by color and then drag to new layer.
- Don't know a work around to re-close the segments. Going segment by segment ot join on a site plans with tons of islands and curbs, would not be fun at all.

Copy and paste from InDesign CS2 to Illustrator CS3

Hi,
I'm a Mac Illustrator CS3 user and having trouble copying text from InDesign CS2 to Illustrator CS3.
After copy text from InDesign (allowed), I'll go to Illustrator to paste it, but none of the text appear. I'm not sure if there any other step should I take before paste?
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Tq

I can't find Clipboard Preferences in either InDesign or Illustrator. Help me.
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A problem highlighting/selecting text in Illustrator CS3

In several instances I can't highlight text to copy or to edit, other times it works fine. If I click the radio button for the text in layers (other layers may be locked to prevent accidental selection), the baselines appears and I should be able to highlight the text, but I can't. If I highlight some other unaffected area of text successfully (unlocked layers), sometimes it will allow me to select the problem text directly after. Then it will go back to being a problem, why?

I'm using the general text tool, I've locked the other sublayers to avoid accidentally selecting those items. Then I click the radio button on the sublayer I wish to edit or copy, which reveals the baselines. Then if I click within that object to highlight text with the cursor, the text tool creates a new textbox/sublayer and does not highlight the text I intended.
From: Monika Gause <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:49:40 -0600
To: Roger Daleiden <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: A problem highlighting/selecting text in Illustrator CS3
Re: A problem highlighting/selecting text in Illustrator CS3
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Illustrator cs3 in cs2

Hi,
I m new to illustrators. Is it possible to create a plugin/template in Illustrator cs2(xcode)? Or can we build and run the sample code from illustrator cs3 in illustrator cs2? Is this possible?
Thanks in advance.

Check the support pages for the Adobe Stock Photos removal tool. Certainly something to do with that being not properly configured on your system. Also consider using the CS4 Clean Utility before installing DW to unregister all install packages of the other Adobe apps from your Windows installer database.
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Gradient with stroke problem Illustrator CS3

We make a gradient object in Illustrator CS3 and give it a stroke which is centered. Then we rotate the object and the gradient rotates with the object.
But then when we put the stroke alignment to inside or outside the gradient fails. It shows the gradient in the original 0-position instead of the angle we have created. When we put the stroke alignment back to center the gradient shows as we meant it to show again.
When stroke alignment is on outside or inside before we rotate the object it shows the same problem.
But when I copy an object from CS2 with an angled gradient and a inside or outside aligned stroke. The problem isn't there. When we start copying the object within CS3 the problem shows again (not when I use alt-key to copy, but with ctrl+c and then ctrl+v, ctrl+f or ctrl+b).
Illustrator CS2 didn't have this problem. But now in CS3 we have it. I used to have this same problem in old versions from Macromedia Flash. But I never had it with Illustrator.
Is this a bug or do we need to handle our gradients in a different way when using Illustrator CS3?

It's a memory issue. If you scale your artwork down (say, to 50%), then save, it should work (it can be scaled up in the page layout software). If you're using raster effects you'll have to make sure they scale as well and that your raster effects resolution is appropriate for the final output size.

Problems with saving in Illustrator CS3 - Windows

I'm using Illustrator CS3, Windows XP. Even the smallest files take a very long time to save. I try to save and it initally appears as if nothing is happening. If I click again, a portion of my screen goes white and the hour glass sits for what feels like forever while "Not responding" appears next to Illustrator in the bar. Eventually it finishes. Have run into the same problem with PhotoShop a couple times as well. Seems to have started after my upgrade to CS3. Can anyone help?

"it initally appears as if nothing is happening" - no-no, disk indicator should be bright and nearly no-blinking!
Solutions are (depending on the problem severity):
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2. Use RAID 5 disks for scratch files (VelocyRaptor is the best choice)
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I have used Illustrator CS3 on my two try or three previous computers. Now I try to install Illustrator CS3 on a my new (4 weeks old) computer. Adobe does not allow me, but demands me to proof myself being an owner of Illustrator CS2 or older. I don't man

I have used Illustrator CS3 on my two try or three previous computers. Now I try to install Illustrator CS3 on a my new (4 weeks old) computer. Adobe does not allow me, but demands me to proof myself being an owner of Illustrator CS2 or older. I don't manage to speak English on phone, bad hearing, to fast spoken, odd expressions.What can I do? Is there a possibility to write a complain?

You can use online chat to talk with Adobe. For the link below click the Still Need Help? option in the blue area at the bottom and choose the chat option...
Serial number and activation chat support (non-CC)
http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/global/service1.html ( http://adobe.ly/1aYjbSC )

Illustrator CS3 Won't Allow Text Fill Color Changes

Hi All,
I have a copy of Illustrator CS3 and this weekend I was working on a new logo design. For some reason, Illustrator would not accept changes to the text fill color. It was stuck on black. I am stuck after searching for solutions online and working with the Appearance panel.
Has anyone else had this happen? Is there a fix?
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Ansel

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Photoshop CS3 Text engine Not functioning

Hi all,
wonder if any of u guys here have this error ...
whenever i tried to type text using the type tool .. it always got hang ... in turn i have to close the application ... slightly earlier ard december, there's this error msg stating something like " something is preventing your text engine from functioning." now it get slightly better but still hang when u click commit[a green tick at the top] .. ani help ??
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I am experiencing this as well - plus not all of my fonts being enumerated unless they are copied (yes, I have to duplicate all my fonts) in the /program files/common files/adobe/fonts folder.
This is seriously annoying - I don't believe the fonts are corrupted because they work in other applications including Illustrator CS3 (however it doesn't recognize all the fonts either - but at least it doesn't hang)
This is a very serious problem.

Problems with line widths smaller that 1 pt in Illustrator CS3 in Spanish

I am asking this for a friend who doesn't speak English; I don't work in Illustrator and don't even know the program. She is using Illustrator CS3 in Spanish under Windows XP Service Pack 2 also in Spanish in a machine with 4 GB RAM and 500 GB HD. As in many non English speaking countries, the decimal separator in Spanish speaking countries is the comma (,), not the point (.).
Her problem is related with applying line widths smaller that 1 pt using the dropdown list of values. Values smaller that 1 pt appear in the list with a point, not a comma, as separator: 0.25 pt, 0.50 pt and 0.75 pt instead of the expected 0,25 pt, 0,50 pt and 0,75 pt. This wouldn't matter at all; the problem is that trying to apply any of these values resuls in 1 pt wide lines. She has made a video (less than one minute) that explains the situation much better than I could do:
http://es.tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=AE87RzhYHCdn5HPHtpPkoA%3D%3D
Curiously, if she introduces values by hand, they are accepted in these two forms: 0,25 pt, and 1/4 pt, and applied correctly, both showing as 0,25 pt (not 0.25 pt).
Of course she can introduce values by hand every times she needs thin lines, but this is a wokaround, not a solution to her problem. Which is aggravated by the fact that she constantly has to use the thiner lines.
In desperation, she reinstalled Illustrator CS2, where the problem does not exist and everything works as expected. But she needs the new features in CS3.
I apologize if this is a known issue with a known solution, but I couldn't find anything about it in the FAQs, and after a couple of searches and wading through several pages of the topic list of this forum.

Back to report. I suggested to my friend to try Jacob's idea first, as it was the easier and fastest. However, I also suggested a small change, due to the following. As the dropdown list was already showing points as decimal separators, I thought it might be better not to change the language. I suggested instead to customize the settings for numbers in her chosen Spanish, changing the decimal separator from the comma to the point, and the thousands separator from the point to the comma.
She has just reported that she changed the language from Spanish to English, and then back to Spanish; and then she customized the separators as I had suggested. That did it; with this change, she can apply the smaller widths using the dropdown list, and she is so happy with her success, that she isn't going to try James's suggestion for the time being, although she may do it later on.
By the way, my friend lives in another country and we are communicating through the Forums in Spanish. This explains why communications have been very slow, and also why I don't know if she shifted from Spanish to English and back to Spainsh because this made no difference, or for some other reason. In any case, she asked me to thank very heartly Jacob and James for their help.

Integrating the new text engine with other Adobe products?

Hello,
Is there any plan to integrate the new text engine with other
adobe products that dos not support RTL languages?
In famous products like AfterEffects or Director, No way to
type correctly arabic text or (rtl) generally - The only way is
converting the text to a graphic format in an external program !!
And there is no Middle East versions for these products.
So, I wish adobe thinks to take this step in near future.
Thank you,

I found this blog post about an unsupported feature in CS4 products for Arabic, Indic and other scripts.
http://www.thomasphinney.com/tag/indesign/
Since several Adobe products such as After Effects, Photoshop and Illustrator use the same text engine you might want to try copy-pasting Arabic text from the Photoshop CS4 template provided in this blog post to After Effects CS4 and see if it works. AFAIK Director uses a different text engine from PS, AI and AE.
http://www.thomasphinney.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/world-ready-photoshop.psd
Good luck!
Joe

Saving an Illustrator CS3 file to CS2?

How can I save an Illustrator CS3 EPS file so that a CS2 user can open it? If so, how is this accomplished?
Thanks,
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If you Save As, hen click Save, you will be presented with a second dialogue asking for version number. Select CS2 or earlier and the file can be edited in CS2. Some effects and appearances might not survive the translation or will require flattening, which makes them harder or impossible to edit.
Your colleague might also be Placing the EPS rather than opening it.

Using Adobe Ideas with Illustrator CS3

I am using Adobe Ideas in an iPhone. I have Adobe Illustrator CS3 which won't open the idea file. Do I need to update my version of Illustrator or is there some way to open the files with the version I have? Also, are they vector or rastor files?

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