Illustrator CS3 printing to random printer under 10.5.4

Hello,
I recently upgraded to 10.5.4 and now, when I print from Adobe Illustrator CS3 (latest update), it prints to a random printer on my network. This doesn't happen EVERY time, but about every OTHER time. I select my printer (a B&W Xerox) and it prints fine. I then re-print to the same printer, but it goes to another printer on the network (a colour Xerox). This has been happening all day and I've made SURE I'm on the right printer.
I don't know if it's happening from other applications (as I'm only working in Illustrator and doing MANY prints from it right now)?
Has anyone else experience this?
I assume this is just another of the many bugs in CS3 apps as a result of 10.5.x ZERO QC this time around, IMHO.
Regards,
Kristin.

The dock!?? Strange, but makes sense. I'll give that a try -- thank you!
As for random printers... I was running the latest PPC 10.4.x about a month and a half ago with CS3 (13.x) and had occasional problems. (The software here is kept up to date in a timely way.) But since then, we've upgraded to Intel Macs now with 10.5.7, currently running CS 13.0.2, and we see the problem more & more often. I can't be sure if it's happening more because of updated software, or if more is being printed -- I probably go into the Print menu about 100 times a day so it's not easy to keep a mental tally, plus I never thought to jot it down. That and it's difficult to track all the variables... is the dock on... was the file originally created in CS2 or AI8... etc.
Anyway, thanks for your help & dock suggestion! If you or any others have any more ideas, I'll be stalking this forum thread, hoping Adobe (or Apple?) whips out some kind of patch or something!
(Since CS4 is out, would Adobe even bother with updates anymore? We can't upgrade to CS4 until dozens of our counterparts upgrade too, and their equipment isn't CS4-friendly!)

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