Illustrator EPS behavior

In an Illustrator file, an object (such as a path, image or an effect) exceeds the defined document size...
The file (saved as Illustrator EPS) is imported into a page layout program...
Should the document size (defined in Illustrator) 'crop' the file or does the object that exits be visible and affect the file's bounding box in the page layout program?
I hope this description is clear.

As I understand it, the EPSF specification does not provide for definition of document page size.
An EPS saved out of Illustrator should not "crop" content to any defined document size.
To your concern regarding page layout applications, a simple test will answer your question. Create a quick AI document with one rectangle inside and one outside the artboard and save as EPS. You'll see that Quark, InDesign, and Pagemaker ignore the artboard bounds (document size).
A clipping mask applied in Illustrator is another matter entirely.

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Anyone got any ideas?

It sounds like you may have assigned EPS files to open in a particular app. That causes anything ending in .eps to open in that app, and the OS ignores the rest of the UTI (Uniform Type Identifiers) data.
About the only way to fix it is to clear the LaunchServices database. Close all running applications. Open the Terminal and copy/paste the following line and press Enter:
/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/LaunchSe rvices.framework/Versions/A/Support/lsregister -kill -r -domain local -domain system -domain user
Close the Terminal and immediately restart. The OS will build a new database based on the installed applications. EPS files created by a particular application should now open in that app.

Preview in Illustrator EPS

I cannot get a preview in Illustrator eps but I can get one in Illustrator.ai. How come? Thanks.

>I typically click on the saved file ( in list view ) and see a thumbnail of the file in Illustrator.
Are you sure you don't mean column view?
What current version; what OS version? Have you been able to do this in several prior versions of Ai and prior OS versions?
I am on 10.4.11 and AICS3, but can't remember it ever working as you describe back to Illustrator 5 and the corresponding Mac OS. Is there a preference I need to set? Can others please confirm or comment on this.
It seems that this is the very issue of the original post and Scott's #1 response. Note that Scott has some credentials with Ai. My earlier comments on Scott's response to Ron's post was in essence that it should work as described by John in #10, and that Scott's explanation for it not working that way seemed to me inadequate. IOW I think Scott can and should have given a better explanation.
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I am trying to import an 6.875 x 10.5 inch document created in Illustrator CS6, saved as an eps, into Indesign CS6. Here is the problem:
The file is lettering for a comic book, so the lettering is randomly occuring on the page. It doesn't spread to the borders of the
of the 6.875 x 10.5 inch page. When I go to place it into Indesign, it comes in cropped to the dimensions of where the actual
lettering fitted on the illustrator page. (for example, if I just had once caption box with text in the middle of the page that was
1x5 inches, the imported eps document will come in as a 1x5 inch eps file.) The problem here is that I can't center it properly
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OSX 10.6 does not differentiate between PS or illustrator .eps files

Have other people encountered this problem?
I have found that snow leopard does not differentiate between photoshop and illustrator .eps files in order to double click and open them.
Does anyone know how to correct this?

Hello Chris,
Thanks so much for clarifying about OSX 10.6 opening .eps files in illustrator or photoshop.
I was wondering if you knew out how
to create a droplet that opens multiple PDFs and saves as .gifs.
When I
try to do it, all of the .gifs end up having the same name as the file
that I created the script with, and a "-1" at the end.
Actually
there are two droplets that I want to create (to be able to
drop multiple pdf files):
Portrait/Square
script:
Final thumbnail file to be 51 pixels wide by (x?) pixels
tall
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sides
Final thumbnail file should be saved as a GIF file, RGB
Landscape script:
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pixels tall
Final thumbnail file should be 72 dpi,
Final
thumbnail file should be flattened(no transparency in white areas),
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sides
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Thanks,
Matthew
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:48:11 -0600
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: OSX 10.6 does not differentiate between PS or illustrator .eps files
Given EPS files are "really" Illustrator files (Photoshop not being a
vector application), you probably want to make Illustrator the default.
No.
EPS files can be produced and read by many applications.
And most EPS files cannot be read by Illustrator.
Frequently EPS files in particular need to be edited in the application which created them (Freehand vs. AI vs. Quark gradients anyone?).
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Opening RGB illustrator eps in photoshop

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This forum is actually about the Cloud, not about using individual programs
Once your program downloads and installs with no errors, you need the program forum
If you start at the Forums Index http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa
You will be able to select a forum for the specific Adobe product(s) you use
Click the "down arrow" symbol on the right (where it says ALL FORUMS) to open the drop down list and scroll
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Mail keeps crashing when attaching illustrator .eps files

Whenever I receive or try to attach an Illustrator .eps file, mail crashes. The .eps file is fine, and can be read by CS and CS2 software.
Whenever Mail tries to read the attachment, it seems it can't cope and quits.
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Why the Finder doesn't make diefference between CS3 illustrator .eps and CS3 Photoshop .eps when I double click on a file?

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By vendor, do you mean the printer? or the client?
If the client:
1) Politely say No.
2) Then explain to them patiently, like to a child how 2+2=4, that EPS is not a valid nor modern file format to use with InDesign and that you are the expert and are being paid for you expertise in such technical design matters.
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I am operating in the newest version of Illustrator and I'm having issues with my .eps files when they are sent to Roland Versaworks or opened in Flexon programs. My printer is telling me that when he opens my .eps art files in Flexon to print on a smaller machine, there is a "black box" covering the entire artwork like a mask. He is having to work extra to remove this mask before printing our customers order. He is telling me this isnt happening in Roland, but I want to make sure it doesn't happen in the future and if it does what I can do about it.
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Right click any EPS file and choose get info. From there you can choose the program you want to open files.
Beware the use of EPS. You can only have one program as the default choice and I've found that many people hanging onto to EPS are also using it from Photoshop.
While I'll use an EPS if it's client supplied logo, the moment I have to open the file to do anything with it, it gets resaved in modern format.
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