Illustrator Live Trace Tips

Hi guys,
I have to make a colorful image into a black and white or at least one color silhouette for printing on a T-shirt. I tried Illustrator Live Trace which look nice -here is the sample-
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1F4NmH9Q0D7IVqUDUeGPegdwKETC1
but when doing a close zoom the interesting texture has some bizarre effects like this one and all the
http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1NPI8WpLvPBttbbMCe3LmiKuZjcj4
This image will be printed in an A4 Size and i am worried that the detail could look strange. The other option is to use Photoshop.
Any special tips when using Live Trace, exporting a PDF and Printing?
Thanks for any info!
Cheers,
Sebs

As far as I know, that is conversion artifact inherent to Illustrator.
You have to put the work in if you want to avoid your art looking like it was done via Live Trace.
It can be tedious, but using the eraser tool, the direct selection tool to select/delete (is there, or will there ever be a keyboard shortcut for this?)
to delete some of those artifact, makes a huge difference.
You might try to bring it into Photoshop, throw a median over it, bring back into Illy, and retrace. Play with the 'smallest pixel detail that will be traced' thingy. Depends on the image, but either way, it is rare to convert a detailed image and have it perfect.
I'll follow this thread for any additional tips!

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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61392902/Illustrator%20Bugs/Traced_in_CS5.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/61392902/Illustrator%20Bugs/Traced_in_CS6.jpg
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