Im confused about the zen micro firmw

First they say that they are releasing a new firmware which will reduce the sleep time of the micro from 24 to 4 hours... and now they are saying that they are retracting that release and redoing it... what's the deal with creative... it took a few months for them to release this firmware to begin with... and now they are saying that it doesn't work... and from the posts that I saw under the thread dedicated to the firmware... the thing doesn't even work... what's up with that... I just really want an educated answer that says something about the direction in which the firmware is going for creative... Beyond that... I read on the CNET website that the zen neeon is slated for asian only release... and on top of that they have released a new pmp called the vision I believe... what the hell is going on with creative's marketing department?

ok, the firmware is still available from the creative website. it has been removed (or was, it might be back) removed from nomadworld.com
for thoes it works for it works well but there have been a lot of problems with it. it does go into deep sleep after 4 hours but some are saying that it uses up even more battery than before. they are testing it like lots of ppl here are to try and find reasons and if they find a problem they will probably redo it.they may be redoing it anyway.
The neon was only released in asia because there are so many players in europe and america that they didnt feel it was needed. many people complain that there are too many players and that creative cant offer good enough support for the players it already has out.
i dont know about a new pmp

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Just 5 questions about the Zen Micro Ph

HiJust 5 Q's about that player which i hope i get clear answers 4 'emcan i buy the charger designed for the original Zen Micro 2 be used with this player? if not, is there an additional charger i can buy ?2) How much time it takes the player 2 charge from the USB port and how much does it take in case of using a charger?3) Can i simply plug the player in my PC's USB and boot up windows XP 2 see the player simply as an additional dri've without the need of any special drivers or programs so that i transfer files between my PC and the player with simple drag and dropping4) Can i transfer non-media files (books - programs...etc) using the same method in question 3 without having 2 set up first a dedicated space on the player 4 receiving such files (<--- This is the way which has 2 be done with the old Zen Micros)5) Any dedicated volume control on it yet or it still misses it like old Zen Micros ?THANKS A LOT

Hi Catherina - thx 4 the reply but yr answer implies that the old Zen Micro can be seen in windows explorer directly as an additonal dri've and this contradicts all the reviews i have read about that in order to transfer non-media files to the player, i have 2 either use the bundled program "Zen Media Explorer" or the firmware itself (in case i am not allowed 2 install software on some computer i wanna transfer files from or to) but i was speaking about plugging the player simply in the USB to be detected by XP, assigned to it a dri've letter and then i can start copying files from/to it right away without any additional extra software installed or anything i must configure on the player itself. IMHO, this is how the MP3 players should behave 4 extra simplicity and ease of use
SUGGESTION: can u plz make video clips showing how 2 use the player in all aspects. I have seen that with the iri'ver players where some people (i am not sure if those people are the guys @ iri'ver themselves or just some fans) have posted numerous video clips showing the iri'ver player in all aspects so the end user like me feel like he is using the player in his hands even if he/she hasn't purchased it yet - something that will be very effecti've on people's decision purchase. Wish to see video clips showing all aspects of the Zen Micro player and may be other players
Here is the site i was talking about: www.misticri'ver.net
Message Edited by magoood on 0-04-2005 2:9 PM

Questions about the zen micro leather case???

hey everyone,
i saw the pictures of the zen micro leather case in the US store and was going to get them until i heard that the case is quite useless and annoying with the two-way flap open. Do you still think i should get them or a diiferent one(im DESPERATE to get one!!)
thanks everyone.

There are several designs out there including... the flexi-skin (at Boxwave.com as well as eBay), Noreve's, Krussell's?and Vaja. It really comes down to what you want from a case. I've gone for a flexi-skin as I want easy access to the controls, and I kept my screen protector (but screen protectors are easy enough to buy).

Q about the Zen Micro FM tu

Hi!
I know that the FM frequencies in the states are different from the fequencies in europe. My question is this: if I were to buy a Zen micro in the united states and then bring it to Israel, is there a way to update the player to european tunning?
0x alot for any help.

Are they different? I thought it was just Asia that had different frequencies, at least those are the two regions I remember seeing on the Micro, which you *can* change.

Another question about the Zen Micro Firmware Upgr

Hi there,
I have just successfully installed the Creative Zen Micro Firmware .02.05 on my 5GB Zen Micro but I have a question regarding Windows Media Player. The Set up Sync button and some of the properties still appeared greyed out. I thought the upgrade would solve that problem.
Any thoughts?
C.

As per the?BEFORE you post, READ THIS FIRST (FAQ) post, all downloads can be found at Nomadworld.com downloads.

Why download the zen micro firmw

i own a zen micro 5gb. is it worth downloading the firmware. and how can i gain an extra a 4GB option in Removable Disk Mode (for 5 or 6GB players only) ?

You've answered your own question :0)
You get the 4 GB data space option by updating the firmware.

2 questions about the Zen Micro.. (firmwire & when 6gb ones come o

Hey guys! i oredered my zen micro monday (from creative 0-o) and its supposed to be here in like 4 days -_- (i could of got it from freaking newegg for 30$ less but i didint look)
any ways! i was wondering...
. when i get my zen micro im going to update the firmwire but i dont know what version to get....
the 2.00.2 version that has microsoft playforsure or that .0.03 that fixes the sensitivity and battery issues...
does the 2.00.2 firmware already have the fixes that the older one has? or do i need to install the older one with the fixes fist and than the 2.00.2 that has microsoft playforsure thing..
and
2. Any clue when the 6gb zen micros are coming out? because if they come out this month im wondering if i can not open my zen micro when it gets here and send it back to creative (unopen) and pay the extra $$ that cost to get the 6gb version one
thanks

. It has the fixes, but a lot of Users have reported issues with the 2.00.2 firmware. If you are absolutely sure you want driverless support and to use WMP0 you could try it, your choice.
2. I'm guessing very soon for the 6Gb, as it was stated they would be released in January.

The Zen Micro wired remote: Many raves, two small ra

Just got my eagerly-anticipated white Zen Micro remote!! Here's my two cents:
Pros:
. Nice look that matches the design of the unit itself very well.
2. Definitely makes life easier in terms of controlling the unit while staying acti've.
3. Minimalist with all of the important functions built into a small, elegant design.
4. I like that there's a button to quickly switch between mp3 and radio modes.
5. I like that the play button, when held down, functions as an on/off switch.
Cons:
. The clip is well-designed from the perspecti've that it's not likely to slip off after it's on. Unfortunately, it should have been a teeny bit wider because it doesn't work on anything but the thinnest cloth, which is especially tragic since this novel design would have let Creative make it as wide as they want without hurting its effecti'veness!
2. Why did I have to figure out for MYSELF that the play button doubles as an on/off switch? The documentation (or lack thereof): the remote only includes a little diagram with a button legend. Said legend doesn't really say anything about the buttons except the obvious. Hmmm, I wonder what the "mode" button does, since on the actual device "play mode" lets me go from regular play to shuffle to repeat etc.... let's consult the manual. Ummm yep it seems that the "mode" button does... modes. Great.
These two rants -- which in no way are recommendations not to buy the remote -- are indicators of the same feeling that possessed me when I wrote my previous rants about the Zen Micro itself -- deep, intense, frustration. Frustration at what appears to be a trend with Creative: <i>a non-user-oriented mindset</i>. The kind of mindset that thinks, "why bother with the kind of details that won't actually prevent anyone from buying the device?" Like, who would care about a crappy manual for a $20 remote? I mean, we'll all figure out how it works in no time, right? I mean, in the worst case, the hidden on/off function will be like a cool Easter egg waiting to be found.
- sigh -
I realize these small rants constitute the large majority of my post but guess what? It's a remote. It works. There isn't too much else to say about it. Or, at least, that's how it <i>should</i> be.

I didn't know that about the play/pause button or the mode button. When I pushed play/pause it just paused and when I pushed mode it went to FM. I assumed that is all they did, lol! For me the clip is of little consequence because it is almost allways in my pocket or bag and I operate it by feel. Perhaps they figured that everyone li'ves in a warm climate and wears thin clothing? You are so right in saying the instruction manual is something less than stellar. I am not sure why they even bothered to waste the paper and ink! Come to think of it, the Micro's documentation led something to be desired too. Thanks for the tips!!!

I'm confused with Zen Micro firmw

Ok, first of all, I know this has probably been asked before, but I looked through the FAQ and searched the forum, and still didn't find what I was looking for.
What am I looking for? I'm not really sure, to be honest, but I guess I want to know if I should upgrade my firmware. I'd simply like to find some info about all the firmware versions. I have no need for fancy features or "PlaysForSure" (I'm confused about PlaysForSure too, but nevermind). I just want my player to connect to my PC, transfer some songs (I don't mind it being through Zen Micro Media Explorer, it's totally fine by me), and then play my songs for me.
I also read something about power issues, but it's all very confusing. I remember seeing some post about a patch making it even worse or something, back a few months ago when I was deciding which player to buy. That's why I'm a bit sceptical about this upgrade, and want it done right.
So.. That's about it. Which firmware should I use if I just want to fix problems that are there now? I'm currently using the default firmware version my player was bought with; .0.03.
(Oh, and I'm assuming that the fact that my Zen Micro was bought in Sweden does not matter. It's more convenient to buy it in the country I li've in =P)

question... I'm bit confused about the firmware also. I heard that there was a 2.(or somthing like that) and a . firmware for zen Micros. I'm currently using the . firmware for my Zen Micro. What is the difference between the 2. and . firmware? Or is there even a 2. firmware version? I ask because i keep hearing about a 2. firmware version for Zen Micro, is it true?

PETITION: Update to the Zen Micro MTP Firmw

I don't know, maybe I'm the only one who has this issue but I would like Creative to fix the bugs in the Zen Micro MTP firmware. I used this version for half a day. In that span, the computer froze three times and I had to re-install the device twice. In lieu of this, I think Creative really needs to review this firmware as it caused major problems for me (and maybe other users). The new firmware update could also include what users want most......an always visible clock and a more accurate battery indicator.
signed

SSR wrote:
Sure, you can copy any file back as long as it doesn't have any license. MP3 files can't have this.
99+ % of MP3 files, that is. Some Sony Ericsson cell phones actually support a DRM version of MP3 (possibly proprietary, but I think it's an Open Mobile Alliance feature available to all cell-phone makers), largely to help carriers block the phone's ability to use ordinary MP3 files as ringtones, and thus force users to buy ringtones from carrier-approved sites. (Vodafone in the UK does this regularly, but Cingular, the only US national carrier that regularly sells Sony Ericsson, didn't with my phone.)
Sony Ericsson used to provide a "DRM Packager" freely to developers to insert DRM into MP3 ringtones; phone hackers discovered it and bypassed Vodafone's locks by using it to make their own DRM'ed MP3's for download to their phones. Sony Ericsson eventually took it down, though warez sites still carry it, and presumably some real developers can still get it. (No, I won't tell how to get it; I'm not about to be banned.)
Of course, this DRM isn't approved by the major labels for anything other than ringtones (and isn't supported by anything but cell phones), so obviously any MP3 file that gets near a Micro, or any other stand-alone MP3 player, isn't DRM'ed.
Message Edited by RBBrittain on 09-20-2005 03:4 AM

Some questions about the correct way to recharge the zen micro batt

Ok..i don't think this is convered in the FAQs.
I copied this from the FAQ----At the present moment, the only possible way to avoid the standby loss is removing the battery after you finish listening to music. Gi'ven the wear and tear resulting, this is not really an option. It will help, though, if you prime your battery correctly, recharge it often (topping it up, not only resorting to full recharges),
Ok...my question--
) to preserve battery life span, shouldn't we wait for the player to die off complete, for example when it starts to display "low battery" before we recharge it's Does this post mean that we shouldn't actually wait for the battery to be complete;y drained off before a recharge? Does it mean we should always recharge, say when there's one bar left?
2) Before doing any music transfer using the computer, should we always make sure the zen micro was fully charged first before the transfer since USB port also serves as a charger. I tried using a completely drained player before music transfer and the player stops charging after 3 hours, which shouldn't be the case because USB always take a longer time to charge (i was told twice as much) and true enough, after deplugging from the USB port, the player starts charging again. Note that this always happen, meaning i can never get a complete 5 hours charge using the USB. What is wrong? And after such charge from USB, i noticed that the battery life the next day is like one third of what it usually last when i charged it through a charger...
I know this is a long post but can someone tell me the correct way of charging?
Thanxs!

immunophilic wrote:
Ok..i don't think this is convered in the FAQs.
I copied this from the FAQ----At the present moment, the only possible way to avoid the standby loss is removing the battery after you finish listening to music. Gi'ven the wear and tear resulting, this is not really an option. It will help, though, if you prime your battery correctly, recharge it often (topping it up, not only resorting to full recharges),
This is from JazzMC's FAQ right? (I added a link to this a day or two ago from the main FAQ post) I hadn't spotted this before and I don't agree with most of this. The wear and tear is minimal, but it's more a case of practicality that removing the battery is a pain. Also priming is not really that important with Lithium Ion, and topping up won't make any difference to the battery drain.
) to preserve battery life span, shouldn't we wait for the player to die off complete, for example when it starts to display "low battery" before we recharge it's Does this post mean that we shouldn't actually wait for the battery to be complete;y drained off before a recharge? Does it mean we should always recharge, say when there's one bar left?
Look in my Nomad Primer, which is essentially a distilled version of the information from BatteryUni'versity.com. Top-up charges prolong the life of a Lithium Ion battery. These are all reference in the FAQ.
2) Before doing any music transfer using the computer, should we always make sure the zen micro was fully charged first before the transfer since USB port also serves as a charger. I tried using a completely drained player before music transfer and the player stops charging after 3 hours, which shouldn't be the case because USB always take a longer time to charge (i was told twice as much) and true enough, after deplugging from the USB port, the player starts charging again. Note that this always happen, meaning i can never get a complete 5 hours charge using the USB. What is wrong? And after such charge from USB, i noticed that the battery life the next day is like one third of what it usually last when i charged it through a charger...
Because of the Micro's design there will always be a difference in the amount of power it can pull via USB vs. the drain when copying files to it. USB is slower to charge than the mains adapter, but it should charge fully given time (which could be twice as much as using the mains adapter).
There is a known issue with the battery draining on the Micro, but you should know this having read JazzMC's page. This is the reason the battery is so low the next day.

A few questions about the Zen Mi

I'm looking into the Zen Micro 5GB, and I have a few questions that I couldn't find on the sight or aren't completely sure of. Sorry if I'm just blind and didn't see them, but I figured you guys could help.
) How do you charge the battery? I'm assuming its with some sort of adapter, and if so, is it included with the player?
2) It says Windows 98SE is compatible, so does this mean regular Windows 98 won't work at all? I'm currently using W98 but will probably be upgrading soon so it chouldn't be too much of a problem, but if W98 is supported I could order it sooner.
3) Will it work in tandem with a cassette adapter for a car? A cassette adapter isn't on the accessories page, but will one I already own work just fine?
Those are all I can think of right now, thanks in advance for your help, and feel free to leave any comments about the player that any of you have.

the headphone jack problem is not really fixed. If you rather not have it happen to early, i would suggest you take really good care of your ZM's headphone jack. Just take good care of it. But the headphone jack problem may occur at any point, i dunno why. it is very strange, some owners are lucky that the problem will occur in 6-2 months or maybe not at all for now. There are some owners that are unlucky that the problem may occurred like 2 weeks to couople months. I am currently trying to take really good care of my ZM after all the great lessons i learned from my previous mp3 players.
the headphone jack problem isn't fix, so be cautious a bit.

Full revision list of the Zen Micro's firmware?

/ I've been digging up various firmwares, and I'll be honest and say that because I use an AC Adaptor that 2.2.02 and ..0 are not in my best interests. While I have no tested whether .02.05 retains charge over time I will probably do so tomorrow. I'd like to know the full history of the device so I know where to stand on this. I like to have the 4 hour standby, but not the 'shorter' charge span simply because all Creative did was drop the peak voltage from 4.9V (Li-Po can take up to 4.235V) to 4.2V. Granted the slope of the charging curve gets very flat at that level, but I do feel that it is best to inform geeks so they know what to expect.
Version (Recovery Mode version)
..0 (0.0.65)
2.2.02 (0.0.65)
.0.02 (0.0.63) (Pulled off due to complaints)
.02.05 (0.0.58)
2.00.2 (Cannot be installed)
I know I missed a few, but because the Zen Micro is past its life cycle I doubt there will be any customizations to the device.

what problems?
Spending time on a support forum like this, that covers the full gamut of the customer base, you are going to see probably 80% of the posts from folks having problems ranging from minor pilot error to real hardware failure. The 20% with tips, kudos etc are all in the minority and will not be very visible.
Creative has probably sold over 5 million Micro's since inception. There are definitely going to be problems with that many units in the general population. And some of the problems have been real issues such as the battery drain and the issue of headphone jacks. The latest firmware v . has fixed the battery problem, and on the 3 Micros in our household we are all seeing over hours playback time, excellent battery hold time, good charging characteristics etc etc. The headphone jack issue seems to have become a lot less of a topic the past month or so. Noting that Creative sold probably about .5 million of the earliest Micros, and these were the units that seemed to have headphone jacks go bad, if at all, all the later products may have enough of a redesign that the jacks are OK. Certainly we are fine over here with the new revisions.
The pluses of the Micro are many, and the diminuti've size and excellent UI makes using this player a pleasure. Audio quality is excellent, and other than sheer output power is right up there with the JB3 (IMO the best ever mp3 player - irregardless of brand).
Hope this rambling note can help you with your decision.
jake

ANYBODY WANT TO SEE THE INSIDE OF THE ZEN MICRO?

If u want to see a step by step guide thats takes u through the process of taking apart the Zen Micro...then go to
Check the Zen Micro out FROM the Inside
Its pretty cool...it shows every little detail...Message Edited by noappendix90 on 06-06-2005 05:2 AM

This has been posted like a million times. Check the date on the article. Please note that just about everyone on this board knows how to use Google. If you post an article or bit of information as news on June 6th, say, make sure that date on it isn't older than June st, for example.
Oh, and ... don't e-v-e-r use caps in your titles, no matter how much of a scoop you think you have.Message Edited by tganani on 06-06-2005 05: AM

What happened to the Zen Micro Pho

I had asked my parents to buy me the Zen Micro Photo as a gift for Christmas and they thought they had got the right one but they got the older Zen Micro, not the photo one. Not a big deal I thought, I would just go back to the store and exchange it. Well, it seems that the Micro Photo doesn't even exist anywhere. It isn't even available to buy on Creatives store, it isn't even listed as an option. Every store I have called told me that they don't carry that model, and every web site I have gone to is out of stock. I even called Amazon.com and asked them when they thought they would be getting more in and they said they didn't know. I called Bestbuy, CircuitCity, various electronics stores in the New York/New Jersey areas and everyone is sold out or never carried it. Just two weeks ago I saw it for sale on Creatives site and now it isn't there. I plan on calling Creatives customer service in the morning and asking them about it. Does anyone here know what happened, is it going to be available again or is it being replaced?

bag3lbit3s wrote:
Well I doubt that Creative just stopped making them, I remember while looking for a White one in the U.S. I called up Creative asking when they'll be sending more out and they told me late January/Early February they'll be shipping them out to retailer. I really wanted the White one to be honest but they only have grey over in the U.S. and I didn't want to have to order through the U.K. or Singapore for one.
Yeah, I don't think the microphoto has been discontinued. I just think they're having some stock supply/demand issues and they're all sorts of screwed up with their websites for different regions around the world and the availability of items. It would be dumb to get rid of the micro and the microphoto since that would leave nothing to really compete with the ipod nano (and I don't think too many people are buying the neeon, but I could be wrong).
Though I still would like to hear what the moderators know about the future of all of the different creative mp3 players.
Owner of:
40GB Zen Touch
20GB Zen Sleek
2 8GB Zen Microphotos (that's right, two, i liked 'em so much I bought a second one despite the current lack of audible support)
Former owner of:
40GB Zen Xtra
5GB Zen Micro
AUDIBLE SUPPORT FOR THE ZEN MICROPHOTO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!Message Edited by penn on 2-27-2005 03:57 AM

Im confused about the zen micro firmw

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