IMac 27" for Web Designers/Developers?

Hello,
I am considering making a switch from PC to Apple once again. I would like to see some good feedback from web designers/developers on the new 27" iMac. My main concern is screen size and normal font size being too small (after seeing it briefly in the Apple Store).
Can anyone comment or point me the right direction to get some hands on impressions from others in the web industry?
I am also waiting until the 27" issues have been addressed and resolved since Apple is still quiet.
Thank you

You assume there is a widespread problem that Apple needs to "address and resolve," beyond honoring the one-year warranty as individual cases arise.
Apple sells Macs currently at a rate of over 12 million per year. By now, if a million new iMacs have been sold, even if only 1 in 1000 customers have a hardware problem, that's 1000 customers with hardware problems. I don't know what the actual problem rate is with the new iMacs, but reading a few dozen or even a few hundred problem reports does not indicate there is a general problem. When you sell a lot of something, even if only 0.1% are affected with a problem, it will be large number of customers; conversely, it means the vast majority of customers have no problems because Apple's customer support systems (and Apple Discussions) are not being overwhelmed.
And if you happen to be affected by a hardware problem, that's the purpose of the one-year warranty and optional AppleCare.
Also, while Apple Discussions is a great way for individuals to get their individual questions answered with the help of other users, it is not a verifiable, consistent, nor comprehensive source of quality control data. For every problem report you read, you have no idea if there are 10, 100, or 1000 customer with no problems. People with no problems generally will not bother logging onto Apple Discussions (or any other forum) just to post that they are having no problems.
For your question about web designers and developers, using a new 27" iMac for this purpose would not be any different than using any recent Mac (except maybe having a larger screen to work with). You should look for forums, articles, and reviews related to whatever development tools you happen to use for your work. You should also mention what those tools happen to be here, so that users who also use the same tools can comment. If those current tools happen to be Windows only, you should stil mention what they are.

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C (programming language) General-purpose computer programming language developed in 1972 by Dennis Ritchie at the Bell Telephone Laboratories for use with the Unix operating system. It was designed for implementing system software and is also widely used for developing portable application software. C has greatly influenced many other popular programming languages, most notably C++, which began as an extension to C.
C++ Statically typed, free-form, multi-paradigm, compiled, general-purpose programming language. It was developed by Bjarne Stroustrup starting in 1979 at Bell Labs as an enhancement to the C language and originally named C with Classes. It was renamed C++ in 1983.
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Cascading Style Sheet (CSS) Style sheet language used to describe the presentation semantics (the look and formatting) of a document written in a markup language. Its most common application is to style web pages written in HTML and XHTML, but the language can also be applied to any kind of XML document, including SVG and XUL.
ColdFusion Programming language based on standard HTML that is used to write dynamic webpages. It allows for the creation of pages that differ depending on user input, database lookups, time of day, or other criteria. ColdFusion pages consist of standard HTML tags together with CFML (ColdFusion Markup Language) tags such as <CFQUERY>, <CFIF> and <CFLOOP>. ColdFusion was introduced by Allaire in 1996, acquired by Macromedia in a merger in April 2001, and acquired by Adobe in December 2005.
Compound selector Can be used to combine two or more style rules to create a style definition that displays only when one style is contained within another. Compound styles are useful when you want to do something like use the Heading 1 tag multiple times to format headlines in different ways on the same web page. For example, you could create one style for headlines that appear in the main story area of a page and then create another style for headlines that appear in the sidebar on the page and still use the Heading 1 tag to format both. Compound styles are created by combining ID, class, or tag styles and look like this: #sidebar h1.
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Dynamic HTML (DHTML) Umbrella term for a collection of technologies used together to create interactive and animated web sites by using a combination of a static markup language (such as HTML), a client-side scripting language (such as JavaScript), a presentation definition language (such as CSS), and the Document Object Model. DHTML allows scripting languages to change variables in a web page's definition language, which in turn affects the look and function of otherwise “static” HTML page content, after the page has been fully loaded and during the viewing process.
ECMA International International membership-based non-profit standards organization for information and communication systems.
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Extensible HyperText Markup Language (XHTML) Family of XML markup languages that mirror or extend versions of the widely used HTML, the language in which web pages are written. While HTML (prior to HTML5) was defined as an application of Standard Generalized Markup Language (SGML), a very flexible markup language framework, XHTML is an application of XML, a more restrictive subset of SGML. Because XHTML documents need to be well-formed, they can be parsed using standard XML parsers—unlike HTML, which requires a lenient HTML-specific parser.
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Rasterization The process of converting a Vector image into a Bitmap image.
Rasterize See Rasterization.
Shopping cart software Software used in e-commerce to assist people making purchases online. The software allows online shopping customers to accumulate a list of items for purchase. Upon checkout, the software typically calculates a total for the order, including shipping and handling (i.e. postage and packing) charges and the associated taxes.
Style sheet selector One of the two parts of a CSS rule (the other being the properties, or declaration block) that declares which of the markup elements a style applies to. Selectors may apply to all elements of a specific type, or only those elements that match a certain attribute (e.g., how they are placed relative to each other in the markup code, or on how they are nested within the document object model). There are many types of style sheet selectors: element selectors, which select by element name; class selectors, which select by class name; contextual selectors, which select by context based on parent elements (what the element is nested within or what precedes it in the document), etc..
Supercomputer Computer that is at the frontline of current processing capacity, particularly speed of calculation. Supercomputers are typically one-of-a-kind custom designs produced by companies such as Cray, IBM and Hewlett-Packard, who had purchased many of the 1980s companies to gain their experience. Since October 2010, the Tianhe-1A supercomputer, located in China, has been the fastest in the world.
Tag Non-hierarchical keyword or term assigned to a piece of information (such as an Internet bookmark, digital image, or computer file). This kind of metadata helps describe an item and allows it to be found again by browsing or searching. Tags are generally chosen informally and personally by the item's creator or by its viewer, depending on the system. HTML tags include paragraph, heading 1, heading 2, etc.
Unix Computer operating system originally developed in 1969 by a group of AT&T employees at Bell Labs. The Unix operating system was first developed in assembly, which is machine-dependent and a low-level programming language. Ken Thompson created the B language in 1969 and Unix was written in the B language, a high-level programming language. The first Unix system written in C was released in November 1973.
Vector image Image made up of numerous individual, scalable objects. These objects are defined by mathematical equations rather than pixels, so they always render at the highest quality. Objects may consist of lines, curves, and shapes with editable attributes such as color, fill, and outline. Changing the attributes of a vector object does not effect the object itself. Compare Bitmap image.
Vector processor Central processing unit (CPU) that implements an instruction set containing instructions that operate on one-dimensional arrays of data called vectors. This is in contrast to a scalar processor, whose instructions operate on single data items. Also known as array processor.
Web analytics Measurement, collection, analysis and reporting of internet data, including the number of visitors and page views, for understanding and optimizing web usage. It can be used as a tool for measuring website traffic and for business and market research. Web analytics applications can also help companies measure the results of traditional print advertising campaigns. It helps one to estimate how the traffic to the website changed after the launch of a new advertising campaign.
Web design Design of the way that content is delivered to an end-user through the World Wide Web, using a web browser or other web-enabled software.
Web development Refers to the work involved in developing a web site for the Internet (World Wide Web) or an intranet (a private network). This can include Web design, web content development, client liaison, client-side/server-side scripting, web server and network security configuration, and e-commerce development. However, among web professionals, "web development" usually refers to the main non-design aspects of building web sites: writing markup and coding. Web development can range from developing the simplest static single page of plain text to the most complex web-based internet applications, electronic businesses, or social network services.
World Wide Web Consortium Main international standards organization for the World Wide Web. It is made up of member organizations which maintain full-time staff for the purpose of working together in the development of standards for the World Wide Web. Known by its acronym W3C.
XHTML See Extensible HyperText Markup Language.
XML See Extensible Markup Language.
Zend Engine Open source scripting engine (a Virtual Machine) commonly known for the important role it plays in the web automation language PHP.

Thanks for posting this!
I would only mention that your definition is incomplete for this -
Contextual selector A type of Style Sheet Selector that
and that it's most often referred to now as a Descendent selector, not a contextual selector. It's basically the same as the Compound selector that you have already defined....

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I found out the following:
When I write in Terminal:
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It happened even before I installed Lion...
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The symptoms are the same as the last time this happened. The "shortcut" key strokes (on the Mac) are command + shift + option + S (probably use 'alt' instead of 'option and "control' instead of 'command' on Windows?). This will usually show a brief darkening of the File menu, but nothing else happens. Until...the same keys are pressed again! Of course, mousing to the menu item works fine, but I have managed to avoid carpal tunnel syndrome and still press all four keys with one hand! Sometimes I get my cat to help...
Since Adobe is gracious enough to provide about three dozen various pref files, it should be a breeze to start archiving them and deleting the originals. NOT! However, in my searching for the likely pref file, I have discovered that the "Adobe Save For Web 8.0 Prefs" file seems to be AWOL on my System! I have over a dozen backups of that file in Time Machine, despite the fact that they all show exactly the same Modified date, which would normally be the only reason TM would save another copy of the file. This may also indicate why the settings for the Save For Web dialog never remember the last used settings; the file thinks it is getting written to but never changes its Modified date even thought that 'state' is obviously recognized by the OS. But that's all beside the point and I digress...
SO...does anyone remember the 'trick' for getting PSE 6/8 to remember the Save For Web keystrokes the first time they are used, instead of waiting for 'verification?'
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Barbara B. wrote:
Uh oh. You should have had an uninstaller in the PSE 8 folder in applications. I'm afraid you may have set yourself up for bigger problems by doing it this way. You may well find that you will eventually need to download and run the CS4 cleanscript to get straightened back out again.
You may be correct, but I've had no other problems after all the different un-install methods. The only pieces that are hard to find are those that Adobe chooses to hide deep in System areas. I suppose since they were one of the first Mac developers, they think they have special capabilities to put stuff any and every where they want. As well as special dispensation to do things anti-Mac ways. I can't claim to be a power-user, but I have never, ever felt the need to purchase/use any special "uninstaller" app. And I can't think of another app I've ever owned that even needed an "uninstaller" for it. That includes Canvas, php, Apache setups, etc. Frankly, and this is simply my opinion and obviously of little importance to absolutely no one else, the way Adobe does things seems to be extremely un-organized, not-well-thought-out and downright non-Mac. The only thing even marginally close to their confusing instal/uninstall process is Stanford's Folding@home set up. It sometimes requires a few Terminal commands...
I will perform a search for that CS4 "clearscript" thing, however. Thanks!
Even the response I got from my Support post assured me that...
reset/restore the Preferences, click Yes or OK . Now try to use the "Save for Web" keyboard command by pressing "Alt+Shift+Crtl+S". I am positive that after following the above steps your issue will be resolved .
OK, I get the rest/restore step. but what does the "alt+shift+Crtl+S" have to do with anything? It certainly is not the keyboard short cut for the Mac version of Elements. Perhaps the chap didn't notice the details in my message or the hardware/software information that came with my request for help. I find it strange that somehow the language differences cause the tech's positive belief that his steps would fix the issue that he also presents:
If the issue is still not resolved then please send us the below mentioned information so that we can provide you with the best possible resolution:-
1. Have you recently made any changes to your computer?
2. Are you logged in as administrator ?
3. Does the issue persist on another system or another user account ?
4. Do you get any error message while pressing the combination of "Alt+Shift+Crtl+S" keys on the keyboard? if yes then send us the screen shot of the error message that you are getting
5. Please provide the exact system Configuration with details along with the Versions.
Every single one of those questions was included with the initial message I sent.
I suspect that the problem is, indeed, in my System, somewhere. I installed Elements on my wife's MBP and it operated normally, even the command+option(alt)+shift+S command. So, when I get some time this week, I'll start up in Safe mode and see if that helps. If not, I'll start removing third-party Pref Panels and apps, a few at a time. If none of that helps, I may try retrieving files from Time Machine. As a last effort, I can always do an Archive and (re)Install of Snow Leopard. I'm just not sure it's worth all the effort to get one measly short cut... The only thing I know for sure is that I will not be seeking any more help from Adobe's "tech support." Why bother, they don't/can't even read the messages their own system sends!

Save For Web vs. Resizing vs. File Size vs. PNG

In playing around with some settings while saving a .png file, I noticed some weird results. For this example, the original image is 300 x 300, but I want the final size to be 200 x 200. I get different results depending on the order I perform the following operations (I never thought the order mattered until now).
1. start with 300 x 300 image, choose save for web, select png-24, with transparency, white matte, convert to sRGB, change image size to 200 x 200, then save - the file size is 37kb
2. start with 300 x 300 image, use Photoshop's "image size" to change to 200 x 200, then save for web, etc - the file size is 111kb
So depending on which step I resize the image, the file size is significantly different - if I resize BEFORE using save for web, the file size is much larger. This is just weird to me, but I always resize AFTER choosing save for web, so that's why I've never caught this until now. In case you ask, while using Photoshop's "image size", all three options are checked at the bottom of that window, so nothing is getting re-sampled or anything like that.
The only thing I can think of is each of those methods treat pixel data differently when reducing the dimensions. When I overlay both exported .png files on top of each other, I see no difference in pixel quality and/or color shift - so why the big difference in file size? Unsurprisingly, if I just save the file straight to .png, the sharpness is much better, and the file size is 46kb. I did notice when saving for web, the colors become a little more saturated.
Are all these results typical? I've never really paid much attention to the results when exporting .png's. I always thought the results were lossless (in general).

Too many variables
What? There are 2 variables here (variables = scenarios = steps). Only two different operations.
1. resize the image, THEN use "save for web" = 91kb
2."save for web", THEN change image size = 157kb
Hopefully my logic translates here:
All other settings are the same. I even made sure the .psd was sRGB this time. The specific question was "why does the different workflow order produce such a big difference in file size"?
In creating a new test file (http://www.shan-dysigns.com/userForums/photoshop/savePNG.zip), I did notice an interesting thing: (I'm including my files in case you want to follow along or test for yourself)
If I merge all layers BEFORE performing the steps above, the file sizes were relatively closer to one another - 168kb and 157kb (respectively from the 1, 2 list above)
One thing to note is all the .psd layers are either shapes or text - this whole scenario may be totally different if each layer had rasterized content (actually, it does, by about -20kb).
The file size in step 1 above didn't jump until it had to consider rastered text/shapes into the calculation. So all this tells me the difference in file size has to do with how each process handles vector data. Maybe when you allow PS to resize the image first, the overall file size is smaller because the vector data gets recalculated???
I don't know how to properly interpret all these differences, but I do know there is something about PS's operation of resizing the canvas with vector data versus resizing the canvas with rasterized data - this has to be where the difference in file size lies.
Maybe I've just wasted a bunch of time on the obvious, but I think I learned something here. Now my head hurts and my eyes have popped out of my head.
So, Chris, I guess there ARE more variables in this situation. My curse is being nosey and wanting to know more technically about PS than most casual designers probably would care about.

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