IMac 27" to Yamaha DSP AX-750SE

Hi all, I was wondering what people would suggest if I ask them how I would connect my iMac to an amplifier named: Yamaha DSP AX-750SE.
A simple jack to red and white cable possibly? Or sugggestions of a better quality stream of music is much welcomed...
Note I will be also be connecting my PS3 to the amplifier, how would I go about doing this as well?
Many thanks!!
Link to connections on the back of the amp:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=Yamaha+DSP+AX750SE&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari &sa=X&rls=en&biw=2560&bih=1378&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=cKSJFvrfU6pRxM:&imgrefu rl=http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/dspax750/dsp-ax750.htm&docid=9pWkrZHkv8J9HM&im gurl=http://www.avland.co.uk/yamaha/dspax750/rear.jpg&w=2159&h=829&ei=bCfrToHXOp OU8gPnyYH8CQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2375&sig=109325498823426180589&page=1&tbnh=63&tb nw=164&start=0&ndsp=137&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&tx=39&ty=30
Link to connection on back of PS3:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=PS3+SLIMLINE&hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&sa=X& rls=en&biw=2560&bih=1378&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=wTc2KBtgHyHyXM:&imgrefurl=htt p://www.televisions.com/players/sony/Sony-PlayStation-3-Slim.php&docid=AkxcvACQT nAREM&imgurl=http://www.televisions.com/Images/Reviews/DVD_Blu-ray_Player/2009/R 1108/1240/SON_BDP_PS3slim_Anschl.jpg&w=1240&h=900&ei=yCfrTqHLLZGB8gP2vtz4CQ&zoom =1&iact=hc&vpx=495&vpy=826&dur=8&hovh=191&hovw=264&tx=134&ty=110&sig=10932549882 3426180589&page=1&tbnh=116&tbnw=148&start=0&ndsp=138&ved=1t:429,r:33,s:0
Link to connections on back of 27" iMac:
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=27+inch+imac+late+2009&hl=en&safe=off&client=sa fari&sa=X&rls=en&biw=2560&bih=1378&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=Xr0Z_SoHzgyiSM:&img refurl=http://support.apple.com/kb/ht3913&docid=TvdcKaFQZZDXHM&imgurl=http://km. support.apple.com/library/APPLE/APPLECARE_ALLGEOS/HT3913/HT3913_1-iMac_Late_09-B ack_ports-002-en.png&w=640&h=430&ei=ByjrTqeiC9C78gO9kuCRCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=49 0&vpy=148&dur=239&hovh=184&hovw=274&tx=139&ty=109&sig=109325498823426180589&page =1&tbnh=110&tbnw=164&start=0&ndsp=131&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0

Pretty simple you need:
http://www.amazon.com/Cables-Go-27016-Velocity-Toslink-/dp/B0002JFN1A/ref=sr_1_1 ?ie=UTF8&qid=1324049706&sr=8-1

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