Imac for HDcam non-linear editing

Hi, I'm using Imac with latest final cut studio. I need to do simple editing from HD cam source.
Unfortunately I cannot afford to buy mac pro and aja kona3..etc.
I would like to know the best option to capture HDcam source and edit with final cut pro.
Thnaks in advance.

As I said, once the IOHD is connected to the computer, it dominates the firewire bus. The iMac might have more than one firewire connection, but only one bus. So that is now used, and you cannot connect a firewire drive to the iMac for capturing to. And USB is out...not usable for video capture.
KiPro attaches to the CAMERA...and is a recording device. It will take the feed from the camera and record directly to ProRes. Then you can drag and drop that footage into FCP. It is not an IO device between the camera and FCP.
Does your MacBook Pro have an EXPRESS34 slot? The newer ones do not, except for the 17" model. If so, the the MXO2 LE would be your ticket. FAR CHEAPER than the IOHD too. But the IOHD would work on the MacBook Pro too... just get an Express34 Firewire adapter and you are in business. And the IOHD converts to ProRes, where the MXO2 line does not...it relies on the computer to do the encoding, and they do not support anything other than 720p 23.98 ProRes on laptops. It can work, I have captured 1080i 29.97 ProRes on mine... it just isn't "supported," meaning it may or may not work.
Shane

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Hi my name is Rob and I am going to be a new Final Cut Pro owner here shortly. I have worked with various other Non Linear editing systems like SONY Vegas, AVID and Adobe Premiere Pro. So I am not new to the Non Linear style of editing video.
I got my first glimpse of FCP at my internship and loved it. Now my dream of owning a MAC and FCP are coming true.
I will be purchasing a Mac Pro with...
- One 2.8GHZ Quad-Core Intel Xeon Processor
- 2GB (2x1GB) RAM
- 500GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s Harddrive
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- Apple Cinema Display (20" flat panel), upgrading later to another 20".
And as you all know I will be getting Final Cut Pro with this purchase as well.
I just thought I would introduce myself to this part of the forum. As I will probably be here all the time. I have purchased the FCP 6 manual to get myself started.

You can call me Rob or S70 or heck even S. LOL, I would like Rob, but whatever.
I am a news editor. I edit Packages sometimes, but mainly VO's, SOT's, NATVO's the normal TV stuff. I edit with Adobe Premiere Pro at work and work from DVC PRO, BETA and even from our DVD archives and of course news wires.
I do not shoot. I may do my own shooting of random stuff, with the help of an old Digital MiniDV JVC camcorder.
I'd like to try and get my FCP skills up and maybe start freelancing and maybe even getting into my own production company or something like that.

[request] [non-linear video editing] PiTiVi

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PiTiVi allows users to easily edit audio/video projects based on the GStreamer framework: Capture audio and video; mix, resize, cut, apply effects to audio/video sources; Render/Save the projects to any format supported by the GStreamer framework. PiTiVi is still in a very early stage of development, and contributions are much welcome.
* Gstreamer 0.8.10
o GST-FFMpeg 0.8.4
o GST-Plugins 0.8.8
* Python 2.3.0
o PyGTK 2.6.0
o GNOME-Python 2.6.0
o GST-Python CVS
* Gnonlin CVS
The dependencies are on date of July 5th, 2005. The numbers are there to give an indication, there might be higher needs.
sourceforge homepage
screenshot

gst-ffmpeg, pygtk, gstreamer, gst-plugins, gnome-python and python are in extra
gst-python is in community, but is behind one version (as required by pitivi .1.10) but currently the aur won't let me at the PKGBUILD ..so here's a shotty one
pkgname=gst-python
pkgver=0.8.2
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="err um.. it does python stuff for gstreamer"
url="http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-python/"
license="GPL"
depends=('gstreamer' 'python')
makedepends=('gstreamer' 'python')
source=(http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-python/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('35a735711f43551722b0dbcfc7895f3e')
build() {
cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
make || return 1
make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
template gnonlin PKGBUILD -can you tell i don't really know what im doing-
pkgname=gnonlin
pkgver=0.2.2
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="Gnonlin is a library built on top of GStreamer which provides support
for writing non-linear audio and video editing applications. It introduces the
concept of a timeline"
url="http://gnonlin.sourceforge.net/"
license="GPL"
depends=('gstreamer')
makedepends=('gstreamer')
source=(http://peterhost.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gnonlin/$pkgname-$pkgver
.tar.bz2)
md5sums=('7ff9f2e58463a3bb783a1c77445e9863')
build() {
cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
make || return 1
make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
it seems to work -- though i donno what it would do if it didn't
to be used from cvs, pitivi requires gstreamer .9, current version in repos is 8.10
pitivi .1.10 builds but does not seem to work well (though the screenshots may say more for it than the actual program does) it could be a bad gnonlin
if i build without a pkgbuild it runs but ugly EDIT: i didn't have gst-ffmpeg, now i get the same error either way
if i build with this pkgbuild i get
"PyGTK couldn't be found !"
pkgname=pitivi
pkgver=0.1.10
pkgdesc="python non linear video/audio editor"
url="http://pitivi.sourceforge.net"
license="?"
depends=('gnonlin' 'gst-python' 'gst-ffmpeg' 'gst-plugins' 'pygtk' 'gnome-python' )
source=(http://peterhost.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/pitivi/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz)
md5sums=('c311f801206aca77ab50e853c7c7c81c')
build() {
cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
./autogen.sh
./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
make || return 1
make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install

Is FCP really non-linear?

Discreet Edit was a true NLE program. Within a time line you could manipulate the speed of a clip, and the rest of the video in the time line would not be messed with. Because when you manipulated that individual clip, it would simply speed up or slow down what material was available in the original source clip.
Final cut, when you manipulate the speed of a clip, every part of the project on the time line just after that clip is thrown out of EVERYTHING.
In future upgrades of FCP I hope that they adopt something that allows us to manipulate clips more freely in a truly NLE environment instead of having to open up a second time line , manipulate the clips there, and then bring them back onto the original time line.

"In digital video editing, non-linear editing is a method that allows you to access any frame in a digital video clip regardless of sequence in the clip"
- http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/N/nonlinearediting.html
"In video, a non-linear editing system (NLE) is a video editing (NLVE) or audio editing (NLAE) system which can perform random access on the source material."
- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinearediting
"TRUE" non-linear editing has nothing to do with speed changes. As you can see defined above, it is the allowance of random access to the footage. The speed change capabilities of ONE non-linear application doesn't mean that it is a TRUE non-linear editor. It means that it deals with one aspect of non-linear editing in a way you deem superior. It is fine to think of that as a better way of doing a speed change, but to then use that ONE thing to say that that system is a TRUE non-linear editor, and that everything else PALES in comparison is ludicrous.
Shane

IMac for Video Editing

Hi all,
I've been a PC user for the last 15 years, and have been looking for a system to support my interest in photography and film-making.
Being an iPhone/iPad user, I would like to expand my 'appleification' to a new Mac. Whilst I can't afford a MacPro, would someone be as kind to suggest what iMac specification would be best suited to this use?
The video I would like to edit is 1080P 25fps (.MOV MPEG-4 AVC, H.264), I already have a ReadyNAS for storage, and would be looking at the 27" screen only. I need performance that will easily cope with the full HD video, without noticeable lag whilst editing. I'm assuming that if the system can handle this task, my RAW photo-editing, web-design etc.. will also be fine.
Many thanks for your help.

I use a 27" 3.06 Intel Core Duo iMac with 4 Mb RAM running 10.5.8 to edit HD Video using Final Cut Pro 6.0.6 and have no problems editing. For storing media I have a Western Digital 1Tb external Firewire Hard Drive. Capturing the video is via a "Log & Transfer" procedure which can take a bit of time as the video is automatically transcoded into a codec that Final Cut Pro can use (I have it set to use ProRes 422). Once captured, editing is smooth and quick and actions are undertaken by the Mac almost instantaneously. Output is relatively easy as well. As with all HD Video the huge amount of data manipulation makes heavy demands on any system but I have no complaints. I would imagine that the latest iMacs and the latest versions of the Operating System and editing programs are even more efficient than my set up. For editing simple jobs I have found that Apple's iMovie is pretty effective and use it where I don't need all the bells and whistles of a high end editing program. I also run Adobe Photoshop CS4 which easily deals with RAW and of course Apple's iPhoto.
Although I don't do any web design however, in view of the above, I expect that the iMac you are considering will handle anything you throw at it.
If you can get to either an Apple Store or an authorised retailer tap their expertise to help you decide which programs you need as Final Cut Express and Photshop Elements (which are much cheaper) may be sufficient. There are I believe other non-apple/ non- adobe editing and photo manipulation programs which run on Macs but I have no experince of them so a little research might be advisable to see if any of them fit your requirements.
I hope that helps.

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Which iMac for Editing ACVHD video?

Hello all,
I am a long-time PC user in need of a new computer and thinking of making the switch to an iMac. I have hours of HD video shot on a Canon Vixia HF200 camcorder, and even my high-end work computer bogs down trying to edit HD video.
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Bypassing the non destructive editing for emptying trash

Hey.
I am completey at my wits end over this. I have footage imported to three separate imovie projects. I have to try and combine these on the one timeline. However everytime I try to move anything it tells me I don't have enough memory. Fair enough so I empty the trash but it is restoring no memory to my hard drive or iMovie - From looking this up it seems to be because of the non detructive editing feature but I don't want to go back on any cuts or keep anything I've deleted just in case. I really need the space so I can begin to move clips around again and finish the project. Is there anyway of telling the programme to just empty the trash and ignore the non destructive editing feature?

Then I open a new blank iMovie project. I drag the desired clips to that project and save.
That, too, preserves the total lengths of the underlying media clips.
iMovie 5-6 dropped the ability to trim unwanted parts of the media clips. iMovie 1-4 allowed the user to do this at the expense of a more fragile project structure.
The workaround to trim the media clips is to:
1. export to tape and import back. Pros: preserves separate clips. Cons: clumsy & slow. Occasional dropped frames may make the process lossy.
2. export to Full Quality .dv and import back. Pros: No dropped frames -- truly non-lossy. Faster. Cons: clumsy, you have to manually break clips into scenes after import.
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Since I recently installed pages on my iPad when I try to edit a file on my mac it requires me to update the programme however when I search for updates none seem to be available.

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I'm considering buying an iMac for HD video editing. I will be using FCE.
I'd like to receive your feedback on which iMac configuration would be the most suitable.
Specifically, how much performance improvement can one expect by upgrading from 2.66 Ghz to 2.93 Ghz? What about upgrading the type of graphics card and video memory? Will the performance improvements be significant?
As the maximum length of my videos will probably be around 20 mins, will a RAM upgrade from 4GB to 8GB be helpful?
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-Max
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There is some marketing speak here. This is the way graphics processing is described on the iMac site.
20-inch and 24-inch model with 2.66GHz processor
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
24-inch model with 2.93GHz processor, one of the following:
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 graphics processor with 256MB of GDDR3 memory
NVIDIA GeForce GT 130 graphics processor with 512MB of GDDR3 memory
ATI Radeon HD 4850 graphics processor with 512MB of GDDR3 memory
This is the way graphics processing is described on the Mac mini page
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 128MB or 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM shared with main memory
This is the same as the MacBook and the 13" MacBook Pro and the low end 15" MacBook Pro. The 2.66GHz iMacs use shared memory and are in the same configuration.
Only the 2.93Ghz iMac, some of the 15" MacBook Pros, the 17" MacBook Pro, and the Mac Pro have dedicated graphics processing that does not have to call on separate resources. I think all the lower end machines will have graphics issues with the FxPlug filters.

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What is best combination of hardware/software that I should use to convert my Sony camcorder analogy video to my iMac that I can save, edit with iMovie and later create DVDs?

Even though your comment is a "Reply" to the OP, you quote my previous comment, so in response:
You do NOT need any program to convert it back to an editable format, if, like I, you edit in MPEG-2 (in my case I edit with MPEG Streamclip).
I already noted that the Apple MPEG-2 Component is required.
Handbrake and Toast are not editing programs. Handbrake will transcode (to, for example, the H.264 format that I use for AppleTV playback) and Toast will burn to DVDs (and Toast can transcode, but is my last choice of a transcoding option).
When you say: "so much [is] lost in the .mpeg conversion" please elaborate. Are you suggesting that MPEG-2 conversion from 1980s and 1990's analog camcorder formats will show less visual quality?
That has not been my experience. I am quite pleased with my conversion and editing method.
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What is the best set hard drive set up on an iMac for video editing?

what is the best set hard drive set up on an iMac for video editing? i only have one internal 2tb hard drive.

CIANCIO.mov wrote:
so is it best to edit directly off your LaCie fire wire drive, or off the internal HD and store on the external?
The second.
Which one is faster to edit with?
The internal will operate faster but editing uses both the Final Cut Application (on the internal), and the external which is used to store and access the video that you have shot and on which is stored the Capture Caches, and which also stores and accesses the various other caches such as Video Render, Waveform etc.
Does a faster hard drive decrease rendering time?
I think it must, but I have never timed it.
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i would love some specs, and input on different drive setups for an imac with a single 2TB Hard dirve.
Again, the discussion groups would be the best place to answer this.
enyone. thanks,
Rendering long sections of video in the Final Cut software does take a long time, especially when it is imported from another source, such as a .mov, and when something simple like a transition is inserted or even moved or altered, or a filter is applied, rendering must be carried out in that area to see the effect properly. So you are on the right lines in thinking about how to speed it up.

IMacs for non-profit

I am part of the Womens Caucus for Arts (NH) and we are planning an art incubator in a small town in NH. I've been arguing that we need to use Macs and have a .Mac account because of the graphic interface and ease of use for newbies (we have ALOT of newbies!) (Also, I'm a Mac addict) The nay-sayers say they are too expensive and good deals can be found for PCs. Are there any places to buy iMacs for non-profit organizations (at good prices!) and software too. I've been searching all over the web, but I've only found sources for education and federal gov. Any tips? Thanks!

Hello,
Contact a nearby MUG. (Macintosh User Group) in your area. They just might have some advice.
Click this link to find a MUG in your area. http://www.apple.com/usergroups/find/
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