IMac G3 Tiger installation

So I have a grape iMac G3 400MHz that I got off ebay which is running 10.4.11 with all the latest firmware (4.1.9). I am upgrading the hard drive from the stock 10GB to an 80GB drive. The question is: on the new drive, do I have to install the painfully obsolete OS 9 before I install OS X 10.4? Some people say you don't have to, others say you have to.
Thanks,

Since it's using version 4.1.9 of the firmware, Tiger can be installed without Mac OS 9, but you won't have a Classic environment without it.
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Last week I upgraded to an entirely new machine. My old imac was running on Tiger and the logic board failed. Though I had an external, I had my local Apple store transfer my hard drive data to my new mac. Since then, I've run Disc Utility a few times, each time with no problem until today.
Disc Utility is giving me the following error:
The volume Macintosh HD was found corrupt and needs to be repaired.
Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Start up your computer with another disk (such as your Mac OS X installation disc), and then use Disk Utility to repair this disk.
Since I don't have a Snow Leopard disc, I've tried starting up with my old Tiger installation disc, but to no avail... At the risk of sounding a little stupid, should Apple have given me a Leopard disc with my purchase?

bgaribay wrote:
Last week I upgraded to an entirely new machine. My old imac was running on Tiger and the logic board failed. Though I had an external, I had my local Apple store transfer my hard drive data to my new mac. Since then, I've run Disc Utility a few times, each time with no problem until today.
Disc Utility is giving me the following error:
The volume Macintosh HD was found corrupt and needs to be repaired.
Error: This disk needs to be repaired. Start up your computer with another disk (such as your Mac OS X installation disc), and then use Disk Utility to repair this disk.
Since I don't have a Snow Leopard disc,
I've tried starting up with my old Tiger installation disc, but to no avail...
you can not use the tiger disk. you need to use your snow leopard disk. what happened to yours? every new computer comes with one. it's called install disk one and is packaged with every new computer.

Cannot reinstall Tiger : installer stuck (cannot make disk bootable)

Good afternoon experts,
I am writing to you here as I have a problem with the Tiger installer which suddendly stops when trying to install on a prepartioned disk.
First, some background information : I have a 20' iMac Intel machine which I bought on February 06 (well designed machine, happy with it so far). The thing is, I have had serious crashes and lockups using the UB version of VLC (media player) which led me to hard reboot the machine several times. Despite the journaling on the disk, some of my filesystem was corrupted, seemingly beyond repair (some apps did not even boot, nothing happened when I plugged in an external disk, etc). Scanning for disk errors and permissions problems revealed that a lot of files had been damaged ("extended allocation" error) in both the system and in my applications.
As I did not know what to do (I should have asked first here whether it was possible to reinstall only parts of the OS using, maybe, a package manager), I synced my backups and went for a reinstall.
The thing is, the disk is already partitioned, as I also run Linux on the machine (updated firmware and repartitioned the disk w/ BootCamp; worked well). It contains, in that order : the hidden EFI partition (fat32), the macOSX HFS+ volume (where I want to install), Linux swap partition, HFS+ partition (for use w/ rEFIt, the EFI bootloader), and two Linux ext3 partitions.
The install starts fine (booting from the DVD which came with my machine), the macOSX volume is formatted but the installer just then stops. Looking at the logs, I can see that it is because it cannot make the volume bootable (this is what the error message says). Note that it correctly read the partition table/EFI partition scheme as it gives me the correct partition types I have presented above. Also note that I cannot do an "archive and install" procedure, seemingly because I have insufficient space (6GB free on the volume); the installer does not give me any choice. Finally, I can still boot into Linux holding the 'Alt' key and using the builtin volume chooser to start on the second HFS+ volume.
I am asking for help to you gurus, to know what to do here. I was think maybe something like using the shell to do a manual 'bless' would solve the issue; I would like however to be sure before proceeding. Otherwise, is there a manual installation procedure (as there is for instance on the Debian installer, allowing to skip/redo some install steps)?
Thanks for your help experts,
Vincent
PS: I am going to see whether I can collect the logs and post them here.

Hello back,
As I did not find a way to attach my logs, I am posting the most relevant parts of it here.
This is where the installer erases the volume and fails at make the disk bootable :
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : Preparing volume "Macintosh HD" for installation
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : Erasing volume for OS Install
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : Original Disk Layout
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : partition map from /dev/disk0:
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : #: type name size identifier mountpoint
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 0: GUIDpartitionscheme *232GB disk0
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 1: EFI 200MB disk0s1
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 70.0GB disk0s2 /Volumes/Macintosh HD
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 3: Linux Swap 503MB disk0s3
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 4: Microsoft Basic Data 18.6GB disk0s4
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 5: Apple_HFS rEFIt 190MB disk0s5 /Volumes/rEFIt
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : 6: Microsoft Basic Data 143GB disk0s6
Jun 27 12:04:56 localhost : Preparing disk for erase
Jun 27 12:04:57 localhost : Erasing volume.
Jun 27 12:04:57 localhost : Erasing
Jun 27 12:04:58 localhost : Initialized /dev/rdisk0s2 as a 70 GB HFS Plus volume with a 8192k journal\n
Jun 27 12:04:59 localhost : Mounting Disk
Jun 27 12:04:59 localhost : Done erasing volume.
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : Final Disk Layout
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : partition map from /dev/disk0:
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : #: type name size identifier mountpoint
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 0: GUIDpartitionscheme *232GB disk0
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 1: EFI 200MB disk0s1
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 70.0GB disk0s2 /Volumes/Macintosh HD
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 3: Linux Swap 503MB disk0s3
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 4: Microsoft Basic Data 18.6GB disk0s4
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 5: Apple_HFS rEFIt 190MB disk0s5 /Volumes/rEFIt
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 6: Microsoft Basic Data 143GB disk0s6
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Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : Configuring volume "Macintosh HD"
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Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : Cannot make disk bootable at this stage.
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : partition map from /dev/disk0:
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : #: type name size identifier mountpoint
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 0: GUIDpartitionscheme *232GB disk0
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 1: EFI 200MB disk0s1
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 2: Apple_HFS Macintosh HD 70.0GB disk0s2 /Volumes/Macintosh HD
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 3: Linux Swap 503MB disk0s3
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 4: Microsoft Basic Data 18.6GB disk0s4
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 5: Apple_HFS rEFIt 190MB disk0s5 /Volumes/rEFIt
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : 6: Microsoft Basic Data 143GB disk0s6
Jun 27 12:05:01 localhost : Install failed: Couldn't prepare volume for installation.
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Jun 27 12:09:05 localhost : Disk Utility started.\n
Jun 27 12:09:05 localhost : \n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Name : WDC WD2500JS-40NGB2 Media\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Type : Disk\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : \n
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Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Media Name : WDC WD2500JS-40NGB2 Media\n
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Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Partition Type : GUIDpartitionscheme\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Device Tree : /PCI0@0/SATA@1F,2/@0:0\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Writable : Yes\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Ejectable : No\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Mac OS 9 Drivers Installed : No\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Location : Internal\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Total Capacity : 232.9 GB (250,059,350,016 Bytes)\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : S.M.A.R.T. Status : Verified\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Disk Number : 0\n
Jun 27 12:09:18 localhost : Partition Number : 0\n

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Tiger Installation

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Do you have at least 256 MBs of installed RAM? Have you done the following before installing:
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder. After DU loads select your startup volume from the list on the left, then click on the First Aid tab in the DU main window. Click on the Repair Permissions button. Quit DU after the repair has completed.
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Tiger installation fails despite the advice found here--what next?

Greetings mac wizards--please advise me!
I've been trying to upgrade my i-mac from the Tiger disc that came with my i-book. (Sales rep told me this was legal and would work.)
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Extended utility for my beloved i-mac is in your hands!
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Welcome To Discussions kever!
cornelius wrote "Unless I am missing something..."
Possibly, this is what he missed "I've been trying to upgrade my i-mac from the Tiger disc that came with my i-book.
Unless I'm missing something, William Kucharski is correct.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
If you don't want to wait for Leopard 10.5.x to be released, and your iMac meets the Tiger System Requirements, Tiger is available for purchase at The Apple Store (U.S.).
If you know what to look for, a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, can also be purchased rather inexpensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, FastMac, AppleRescue, etc.
As posted, be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
Unless purchased from AppleRescue, the discs should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on them.
Once Tiger 10.4.x is installed, you can use the PPC 10.4.9 Combo Update, to upgrade to the current version.
Additionally, "Tiger ships on a DVD, but if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you’ll need CD media."
AppleRescue, also sells a Tiger installation set on CD.
Shop Carefully, Examine All Documentation, And I Wish You Success!
ali b

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I need to back up my imac running Tiger (no time machine) so that we can upgrade OS. It is set up for multiple accounts. How do I capture all files in each account using newly purchased USB external hard drive? Thanks!

Backup Software Recommendations
Carbon Copy Cloner
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Synk Pro
Tri-Backup
Others may be found at VersionTracker or MacUpdate.
Visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on backup and restore. Also read How to Back Up and Restore Your Files.
Or you can simply use the Restore option of Disk Utility to clone the drive to the backup:
Clone using Restore Option of Disk Utility
Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
Select the destination volume from the left side list.
Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
Check the box labeled Erase destination.
Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the Destination entry field.
Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the Source entry field.
Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
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I want to upgrade my Imac from tiger 10.4.11 to Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard. What is the best way to do this.

I have just purchased an iphone 4 and it needs me to have the latest itunes on my computer. I have not upgraded by computer for some time and thought this is probably the time to do it. My computer is an imac intel with Tiger 10.4.11. I want to upgrade my Imac from tiger 10.4.11 to Mac OS 10.6 Snow Leopard or higher. What is the best way to do this? Appreciate any help as I am out of practice. I used to be an old hand at this, but things have moved on since I didn't upgrade or use my computer as much!

Catherina wrote:
... What is the best way to do this?
The best way, really the only way, is to purchase Snow Leopard.
Online (UK): http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC573/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard
Elsewhere: call the phone number in the Apple Online Store.
Apple's price is $19.99, £14.00, €18.
Snow Leopard is not available to download from any legitimate source.
Once you install Snow Leopard, upgrade iTunes to version 10.7 or the latest, iTunes 11.
iTunes 10.6.3 is the last version of iTunes to support Mac computers with Mac OS X 10.5.8 with either Intel or PowerPC processors, but since you have an Intel iMac, the best solution is to purchase Snow Leopard. Leopard is no longer available from Apple and prices from aftermarket vendors can be unreasonably high.

What kind of adapter i need to transfer file from an imac hardrive tiger to an imac leopard

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Hey arturojas!
Here is an article that might help you achieve this goal:
Mac Basics: File Sharing
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1549
You could also transfer files directly using target disk mode:
Mac OS X 10.6: Transferring files between two computers using FireWire
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH6815
Thanks for using the Apple Support Communities!
Cheers,
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Why can't I open my retail Tiger installation dvd although it boots

Hi,
I have problems with opening my original Tiger installation dvd. I already installed Tiger, but I need some data from the optional installs on the disk. But I don't get any access to the dvd. Its shown on the desk but whenever I try to open it it just failed. I can boot it by pushing C and starting from the dvd but I have no access when I just put it into my internal diskdrive. Does anyone have an idea?

Hi Stefchen,
Welcome to Apple Discussions!
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Upgrading from a G5 iMac running Tiger to a new iMac.

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Your Tiger iPhoto library may need upgrading with a Apple Library updater tool before you can use it with iPhoto '11. Reference. More iPhoto help just in case.
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iTunes for Mac: Moving your iTunes Media folder.
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