IMac not starting fully... going to full fans + HD not mounting
Hi. I'm using (or was using) a Rev. A iMac G5 17" 1.8Ghz with 1GB memory (of which 512 is third-party), running OSX 10.4.8
Recently I've been getting a fair few kernel panics, and I think (though I'm not entirely sure on this - it might just be me being forgetful) that the computer may have shut itself down when I wasn't in the room.
Very recently, I've noticed it having trouble playing certain DVDs either in DVD player or VLC - though it can do normal video files fine - and it's been taking at least 1 minute to shut down, when it only takes 30 secs to start up.
Additionally, I've been unplugging my Voyager 105 USB modem every time I shut down or restart, because this would cause it to get tothe point of shutting down the screen, then hanging for about 30 seconds before going to full fan speed.
A couple of days ago, when my brother switched on his computer next door (which is connected via ethernet), my computer froze completely (no force-quitting or anything worked), so I had to shut down with the power button. When I tried to restart it, it got to the grey apple logo stage, then hung for about 1 min before going to full fan speed and staying there.
I've run Disk utility from the DVD, and it has told me that the HD will not mount, and Apple Hardware check told me '2STF/8/3: S-ATA Bus 0-Master'.
I've reset the PRAM, and whilt trying to remember the key combo, I managed to bring up a console which showed a load of code and stuff about Kernel panics and ended ominously: "We are hanging here..."
I've heard about the recall programme for Rev. As with power and video problems, but this seems to be a problem with the HD bus.. might it be related?
I'd really appreciate any help as there are one or two irreplacable files on my HD that are not backed up and are of great value to me. That being said, I also don't have the applecare protection plan and I'm a student, so I really can't afford to get it seen to (along with the fact that I live about 4 hours away from the nearest Apple store)
Thank you!
iMac G5 17" - Rev. A Mac OS X (10.4.8) 1GB Ram
You would be considered lucky if your Mac fell in the repair program here: http://www.apple.com/support/imac/repairextensionprogram/ - you can find your Mac's serial number by using System Profiler...
If you machine does appear on the list, I suggest you call Apple, say your having power issues and take it from there. If your Mac does not fall within the serial numbers, I would still call apple and explain that you're just a poor student in need of help...
Good luck, Rick
iMac G5 iSight 20" - 30G iPOD in Slimming Black - Mac OS X (10.4.7) - HP Pav 15" WS and Toshiba Sat 17" WS LP's - Canon 20D & A620
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