IMac to PC video chats - Yahoo or MSN?

Has anyone successfully used either Yahoo or MSN instant messaging for video chats, iMac to PC? If so, what are the specifics for making it work? Thanks for any help you can provide.
NJZ

Hi NJZ,
WElcome to the Apple Discussion pages
This might help http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=121907
Basically it is as Sandra says. Yahhoo! has moving pics ony and calls it Video and the Mac version of MSN does text only.
Tiger (10.4.x) allows you to use the Jabber service. This can be linked to the other servcies through things called Transports so that your iChat using Jabber (Server) can text chat to your MSN and other Buddies.
Both the next two links are a bit light on info about Sytem Requirements. But Java should not be a problem.
http://www.mercury.to/index.php?sub=WhatIsMercury is a java based application to work with MSN. Not sure of it's total capablilities as I have not tried it.
Similar for aMSN
Ralph

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If ON, in the Advanced Tab is Allow Signed App selected and IS iChat in the list ?
Also is Stealth deselected ?
Also try setting iChat Preferences > Video section > Bandwidth Limit to 500kbps
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Can iChat have video chat with Windows Messenger?

Is there any way to use Jabber or other means to establish a video chat with an MSN Messenger user?
Alternatively, does anyone know if Virtual PC for Mac supports video chat with windows computers?
Thanks for the help.

Hello Peter,
Is there any way to ... establish a video chat with an MSN Messenger user?
The best way is still with a Windows XP PC and MSN Messenger.
For use with your Mac, see the MSN, Yahoo, Win Messengers & iChat? FAQ. Jabber is text only.
There is a beta application called Mercury Messenger on Mac OS X that is an MSN Server client.
However, please note that the Mercury Messenger Webcam / Video Conference Support section, which I quote, in part, includes the following:
Video-conferencing is supported on Mac OS X, however it is receive-only, due to an incomplete JMF library for Mac OS X. The feature is still relatively new, and so some issues may occur in use.
Although Mercury Messenger (beta) will connect to the MSN Server, those comparing it with iChat AV's capability should certainly study the sections about the limitations and known issues.
If you get Mercury Messenger on Mac OS X working, please post back and let us know what you think of it.
... does anyone know if Virtual PC for Mac supports video chat with windows computers?
VPC for Mac does not support Firewire video, so it cannot use an iSight for video. Sorry, but I have not seen anyone post a method of using VPC that rivals the performance of using the same application on a Windows PC.
Also, VPC with the current version of Windows is so expensive that, at least where I live, it is often cheaper to buy a used, and sometimes a new, PC to run your PC software.
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MSN Messenger uses wrong inbuilt webcam for video chat on triple screen set up. It uses a cinema display webcam not the iMac webcam.

For some strange reason if i attach my 2 apple cinema displays to my iMac to make a triple screen set up msn messenger video chat does work but it uses the apple cinema display inbuilt webcam and not the iMac webcam. Its annoying as i have to turn sideways to get into the video call view.
So i have a set up like this: an apple cinema display thunderbolt, then in the middle an iMac new then to the right of the iMac another apple thunderbolt cinema display. WWhen i use MSN messenger to make a video call it uses the inbuilt webcam on the far right apple thunderbolt cinema display and not the inbuilt webcam in the iMac in front of me, its annoying any ideas please.
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Your info shows you are using some "Other OS". If that is Windows, Linux, etc., I cannot help you. However, if you are using some version of Mac OS X and your system info merely needs updating, keep reading.
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• Connect and power on all devices. • Quit MMM if it is running. • Launch any app with a user-selectable camera "Preferences..."
menu command. (The "tip" suggests that you use iChat,
but others like Photo Booth, iMovie, etc., may work, too.) • Open "Preferences..." and set the camera "Preference" to use
the display iSight. • Now launch MMM. MMM should now use the iMac's inbuilt
iSight because your display camera is in use by the other
application.
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Once and for all: MSN VIDEO chat on the mac... can it work?

the situation: my friend in France uses an msn account on a PC with the latest version of windows live or some such. I'm in the states on my blackbook. I set up a shiny new msn account, hoping to connect up to him. I've tried adium, msn mac, mercury, and ichat, and nothing will let me connect to his cam, or him to mine.
so here's the golden question: can a mac user, as of right now, video chat with a PC user through the MSN network? if so, and if this is a waste of a new post, please direct me to the instructions. please do not tell us to sign up for AIM accounts, like I saw in another post.
if it's not possible, please explain why not. is it microsoft's msn client for the mac that's about 3 versions behind the pc one? is it a protocol issue? why is this so impossible? is it a social thing, i.e. europeans use msn and PCs and americans use AIM/yahoo and macs? I'm baffled.

It IS possible for a Mac user to do video with people using MSN/Windows Live messenger on Windows, but not possible to do audio.
To do video you will need either Mercury or aMSN. I haven't used either of these, and wouldn't touch the MSN service with a barge-pole, so can't give instructions on how to set it up, but both of them do have video capabilities. As i said though, neither do audio, so unless both participants know sign-language it may be of limited use.
The reason why it is not possible is both a protocol issue and a Microsoft one.
MSN uses secret, proprietary protocols for their service which means that anyone wanting to interoperate with the service has to reverse engineer the protocols and then implement them (and Microsoft can of course move the goal posts at any time by changing the protocols in a new version).
It's a Microsoft problem because they simply aren't interested in developing no cost applications for the Mac, as evidenced by the dropping of both IE and Windows Media Player for OS X (it wouldn't surprise me if Messenger gets dropped by the end of the year), so MSN Messenger lags well behind the Windows version and lacks many of its features.
The situation with MSN/Windows Live Messenger is unlikely to change until Microsoft switches to the IETF standard for IM, XMPP. It may be years before Microsoft switches but it will have to eventually as XMPP is the daddy in enterprise IM and becoming increasingly popular in the consumer space with services such as Google Talk, Gizmo (IM portion) and Live Journal (among thousands of others) utilising it.
Fortunately iChat already supports XMPP (Jabber) for IM, although doesn't yet use the XMPP standards for video or audio (though i'm still hopeful this will change with Leopard), so once MS switches you should be able to set it up in iChat. But like i said, it may take years before all the major IM companies converge on XMPP as the protocol of choice.
Anyway, if you're just interested in video AND audio chats between Windows and Mac OS X you don't have a lot of choices. There's the AIM/Trillian Pro <-> iChat route that you don't want to take, there's the Skype route (much as i loath Skype) which seems to be the preferred option among other forum posters here, and there are a few other alternatives too which i haven't paid much attention too, but there is currently NO way to do both video AND audio between Mac OS X and Windows using MSN/Windows Live.
Or i suppose you could wait for Leopard and hope that Apple provides MSN functionality but i suspect you'd be disappointed.
Not the answer you were looking for i'm afraid but i hope my post helps you find an alternative solution. Don't forget to send feedback to Microsoft and demand they switch to XMPP in MSN/Windows Live Messenger. The more requests the better. ^_^

How can I do video chat with my PC friends on MSN messenger?

Well I posted this in the iChat area, but theres almost no traffic there, hoping for a better response here
I just got my iMac today and was hoping to do some video chats with family members. I can't figure out how to video chat with them since MSN messenger is not Mac compatable. Does anyone know of a program I can use on my Mac to video chat with MSN messenger users?
*I was able to use aMSN for video, but there was NO sound so that basically defeated the purpose...

Hi
Have just replied to your iChat post:
http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=4577049#4577049 where I've posted a link to Mercury Messenger, that might work.
Steve

How can I video chat with someone who uses web based yahoo?

Not long ago I purchased my first Mac (New MacBook Pro 2.53GHZ); last Summer I also purchased a MacBook Pro for my daughter. Everything works great (like driving a formula one Porsche after grappling with a battered pick-up truck (meaning Windows) for many decades; cannot imagine ever going back. But, there is one issue that I have not been able to solve and for which I would greatly appreciate any suggestions or advice. I am familiar with ichat and with AIM (my daughter uses it all the time). However, the vast majority of people with whom I communicate via IM live in parts of the world where very few people have even a computer at home much less residential internet access. As a result, near all of the folks I would be chatting with have to use public computers (internet cafes, libraries, etc) and obviously they cannot install AIM or anything else on those public computers. About 90% of them use the web based yahoo messenger which can be accessed from any computer with an internet connection (most of the rest use MSN). My question is this: I know how to do video chat in ichat but ichat does not support yahoo. How can I do video chat with someone who is using web based yahoo on a public computer that has a USB web cam? I was able to do this on my old PC which had a plug in web cam but do not know how it might work on a Mac. Should I install yahoo messenger on my MacBook Pro and will that work for me?. I know about some other Mac compatible chat clients such as Admiun but as far as I can tell none of them support video chat or in some cases yahoo. Perhaps I am overlooking something. I would be very grateful for any suggestions or advice in this matter. Thanks to anyone who reads this post and has any helpful info.

Zurich,
I don't think the web-based Yahoo Messenger supports video, so nothing you can do with that.
http://messenger.yahoo.com/features/
I think there are Mac compatible MSN clients that will do video, (i.e. aMSN) Also, Microsoft plans on releasing an updated version of Messenger for Mac soon.
http://www.officeformac.com/blog/An-Update-on-Messenger-for-Mac
GoogleTalk does have a browser based video chat, but your friends would need to install a browser plug-in. (which I would assume that can't do either)
The best option is Skype, but also requires an install on their end (I would think that the internet cafes would/should have this available)
Good Luck,
Double_A

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Zurich,
I don't think the web-based Yahoo Messenger supports video, so nothing you can do with that.
http://messenger.yahoo.com/features/
I think there are Mac compatible MSN clients that will do video, (i.e. aMSN) Also, Microsoft plans on releasing an updated version of Messenger for Mac soon.
http://www.officeformac.com/blog/An-Update-on-Messenger-for-Mac
GoogleTalk does have a browser based video chat, but your friends would need to install a browser plug-in. (which I would assume that can't do either)
The best option is Skype, but also requires an install on their end (I would think that the internet cafes would/should have this available)
Good Luck,
Double_A

Can I video chat in MSN

Trying to use a web cam to chat for the first time. My family already uses MSN messenger to chat and I don't think I can connect with them through IChat.
I installed MSN Messenger to my Mac but can't seem to figure out how to use my web cam. When my brother tried to invite me to a "video chat" he got a message back saying I don't have the "current version" so the video chat would not work. I just installed this tonight so I don't know why I wouldn't have the current version. We can "chat" or IM fine, just not sure how to get the video to work.
Does anyone have any experience using MSN messenger for Mac or should I try a different "chat" service like yahoo or AOL?
I find it hard to believe video chat won't work through msn messenger so I assume I am missing something here.
Any help?
Thank you very much!

Theres a MSN8beta that does video but i dont know how well it works http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7946/microsoft-messenger
Then theres MSN though Jabber on the iChat side but only does text(and a headache to setup).
Other ways to MSN.
aMSN http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14200/amsn
Mercury http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14970/mercury-messenger
And http://www.tokbox.com/#
And even then you might be better off using Skype.

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