Image created for external editor is very large

I am new to Aperture. I want to send my adjusted photo to my external editor (Photoshop Elements), and the resulting image created has a file size 10 times my original RAW image size. This is before any additional editing in Photoshop. Why such a large file? There is no difference if I export as a TIFF or PSD. Is there anything I can do to keep the files reasonably sized?
Thanks.
Aperture 1.5.2
Elements 2.0
Dual 2.3 G5 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

to answer your first question, prints do not have an implicit bit-depth because they're no longer digital. the image is no longer stored as 1s and 0s. printers usually have a DPI rating (dots per inch) which is quite literally the number of individual ink dots that the printer can make in one horizontal inch and relates more to how sharp the image will print (at the extremes, consider printing something at 100dpi vs. 2800dpi). bit depth in an image relates to how many colors you can choose from to make your image. if you had a really low bit-depth, you might only have 32 colors available and to render a landscape. with 32 colors you wouldn't be able to capture all of the subtle shades of green in the leaves, especially if you needed to adjust the exposure up or down.
most on-line printing services will tell you that a high-quality JPEG is fine for printing and for the most part they're right! using PhotoShelter and their partner printing services i've uploaded and printed some of my own still life photos done in my studio. and the prints look great!
the problem with editing using a JPEG image is that if you repeatedly save the JPEG file, you're constantly re-compressing the image and over the course of several edits the quality of the image will degrade as more and more JPEG compression artifacts are introduced with each save (and subsequent re-compression of the image data).
so your workflow should involve editing uncompressed at a high bit rate, then export as a high-quality JPEG for upload to a printing service. however, if you're doing your own printing to a desktop photo printer, just print right from the edited uncompressed version in Aperture. either way, the results will be very good.
scott
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