Image cropped when choosing "edit in Photoshop" - why??

Here is my intended workflow
1) Choose RAW picture from gallery in LightRoom
2) Make basic adjustments to the whole picture (levels, exposure, cropping)
3) Make final adjustments in PhotoShop
4) Have the file available to edit in a different cropped size in LightRoom
Why is it that when I click "edit in Photoshop", the picture doesn't do a non-destructive crop?
Thanks

When you use 'Edit in Photoshop' the file must be saved as a TIFF, PSD, or JPEG file after you've completed your PS edits. The PS edited file can then be edited further in LR. This video may help:
http://tv.adobe.com/watch/getting-started-with-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-4/lightroom-4-mov ing-between-lightroom-4-and-photoshop-cs6/

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I find a number of professionals using Lightroom as their primary photo editor.
I did a search on Lightroom vs Photoshop. I found the following listed as the first reason for choosing Lightroom: 1. Nondestructive Editing. Nothing is actually changed (by Lightroom) in an image until it is exported. This means you can make an adjustment, change it again and again, but no quality is lost as it would be with Photoshp. This is reported in Outdoor Photographer.
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Hi Vince.
I am just learning my way around Photoshp. I have spent 18 months learning how to start and to stop it.
Good point. But if we peg the learning curve of Ps at 10, Lr comes in around 2 or 3. Like learning to drive a car as opposed to learning to fly a jet.
Smart Objects would make PS more re-editable.
True, but still no match for Lr or Ps RAW.
I have never before seens a comment that extensive work on an image in PS would deteriorate the quality of the image.
Extensive work will do what the user asks it to do. In the first 18 months I had Ps, I asked it to do lots of things that I now realize deteriorated my images. Forever.
Regarding LR, I have created for me a workflow that requires PS.
So did everyone before Lr came out. And yet, Ps users by the thousands, if not millions, have adopted Lr. Many if not most with a greater time investment in Ps than 18 months. I dropped my Ps centric flo the moment I realized what Lr could do. I had been using Ps pretty heavily for about 5 years by that time.
I feel LR works best for experienced photographers who are shoooting a lot of pictures.
While it's true that experienced photographers might realize more benifit, maybe not. It works great for everyone.
That person has good images, images that need little editing, to start the output process.
This is not true in the sense that the majority of Lr users are mediocre photographers at best. For the simple fact that most photographers (even "pros") are mediocre at best. And Lr was conceived with these folks in mind. It has the true "pro" stuff, but in an amateur friendly environment. Judging by the images and questions posted on photo and Lr forums, there are many, many, low level photographers using it.
I am an inexperienced photographer shooting just a few pictures. So I put a lot of effort into getting a good print from my mediocre shots.
You obviously care about your images. Care more when you are shooting them. This is boiler plate advice. Time spent mastering your camera will pay off better dividends than learning to fix bad photos. This was true before the digital age, and it's just as true now. Ultimately, no matter how hard you massage it in Ps, Lr, or any other app, the quality of your final image will be a function of the quality of the original pixels you captured with you camera.
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