Image Editing in iPhoto 08

I am testing out several raw image converter programs (trial versions). Just noticed that the new iPhoto has added photo editing capability over my version. Does anyone have experience with these features enough to compare them with the corresponding features in, say, Aperture or Lightroom - in particular, the shadow/highlight adjustments and the noise reduction? Is the latter anything like Noise Ninja that Bibble Pro uses?
I realize that these other programs are far more extensive, but maybe iPhoto will have everything that I need for now. There's no way to do a trial version, is there?
Thanks.

My requirements are fairly basic. With some of my photos I may need to get more detail in dark objects that are against bright backgrounds. I usually select my photos in iPhoto and then batch process them in Photoshop. Since iPhoto reads in raw images from my Nikon D70, I thought it would be real convenient to make the initial shadow/highlight (and WB and noise, if necessary) adjustments there. I'm not sure I need or want Aperture or Lightroom as long as these basic capabilities are fairly decent in iPhoto. I guess from your response that it may be worth upgrading to iLife 08. Thanks.

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andan:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Locate of of those offending files in iPhoto's Library/Originals folder. Then type Command-I to bring up the Info window. There select Preview as the default application and click on the Apply to all... button. See if that won't do it.
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I get a (very thin) white line on the top of my images in iPhoto '09. It occurs on some (not all) images when I sharpen them. Anyone have any clues?
I have posted an example here.
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It's on the first page also. How are you adding the photos to the pages, both album and front? Are you processing the photos in a 3rd party editor?
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Images edited within iPhoto '11 export to the desktop without a problem but images that have been edited with an external editor (Photoshop CS4) will not export. The following dialog come up:
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Don't know if this has any bearing but the problem is on my wife's iMac, not my MacPro.
Any clues to the source of the problem will be appreciated.

Thanks TD for your input. While I could not get the rebuild to work (it would show 97% done then hang up), it helped me isolate the problem. I ended up deleting all the images that were edited by PS CS4 then tried to do the rebuild again. Still no luck. I then opened the file sans the edited PS images and it worked.
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Hi,
I tend to use Photoshop elements and bridge as my initial repository for RAW format photos. I use Bridge and Elements to select photos for editing, and storing the edited .psd file.
I also create a jpeg copy of the finished file, which I import into iPhoto. However when I do that, iPhoto uses the date that the jpeg was created, rather than the original photo date to organise into events. Any ideas how to get it to use the original photo date, which must be in the EXIF data...
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Try importing the psd file into iPhoto and see if it will retain the EXIF date. That way you can use PSE from within iPHoto to make additional edits as follows:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
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Wanting to use Photoshop CS6 to open images directly from iPhoto 11. Using OSX10.8.2 and iPhoto 11. Just installed Photoshop CS6 and want to open images directly from iPhoto. Before I installed PS I was not able to edit photos in iPhoto 11. Nothing

Wanting to use Photoshop CS6 to open images directly from iPhoto 11.
Using OSX10.8.2 and iPhoto 11. Just installed Photoshop CS6 and want to open
images directly from iPhoto. Before I installed PS I was not able to edit photos
in iPhoto 11. Nothing happens when I click on ‘edit‘ it is blank.
And now it will not work using Photoshop CS6 either.
From Help Center I have gone to iPhoto/Preferences/ Advanced and chosen Photoshop CS6 to Edit Photos but then cannot find an 'Open' to click? Perhaps this is the problem?
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This may be of help to you:
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
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When I edit my RAW format images I cannot find the resulting jpeg image in my IPhoto library

When I edit my RAW images (.neff format) I cannot the resulting jpeg image in my IPhoto 11 library.

bryanalt wrote:
Thanks. So it is probably worth upgrading to Aperture?
And you say that because? While Aperture has more features and more capabilities than iPhoto - especially in working with RAW - this is not one - depending on what yo do with previews in Aperture it may be even more difficult to use the edited photos incorrectly - iPhoto is simple - just correctly access the edited photo as TD suggested
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Same same for Aperture
LN

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I do not use Aperture so can not test or verify this - any there may be an even better way but iPhoto can have any editing program set in the preferences as the external editor - I assume that this would include Aperture and that once you have edited in Aperture you would save (not save as) to return the photo to iPhoto and have iPhoto update the thumbnail and place the edited photo in the modified folder
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LarryHN,
Thanks. I can see that iPhoto does indeed only edit in RGB as you say, but as a developer and user interface designer for 40 years including a dozen years at Apple, it *is* a bug. The original image does have a valid color profile of grayscale when imported, so iPhoto should either handle the RGB conversion correctly or refuse to import the original image (or at least warn).
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Thanks Terence. What a relief. I still don't understand what the book I read was talking about then. Here's a quote from the section I was referring to in "iPhoto 08: The Missing Manual" book, p 91 (ISBN: 0596-516185):
"Note, however, that the instant you edit a TIFF-format photo (Chapter 7), iPhoto converts it into JPEG.
That's fine if you plan to order prints or a photo book (Chapter 11) from iPhoto, since JPEG files are required for those purposes. But if you took that once-in-a-lifetime, priceless shot as a TIFF file, don't do any editing in iPhoto-don't even rotate it- if you hope to maintain its perfect, pristine quality."
After my test results, I thought maybe this was something that had changed from iPhoto 08 to iPhoto 09, so I went to the bookstore yesterday and checked the same book for iPhoto 09, and there it was, the same quote! (on a different page, of course).
Anyway, thanks once again for your confirmation that my test was indeed correct. Linda

How to edit external iPhoto Library pictures with an external editor?

That's my question.
I have my iPhoto Library on an external HD and I want to modify my pics with PSE 11. I've set my iPhoto prefs to do this but it just doesn't work. When I click on "edit with an externale editor" PSE 11 opens but doesn't show the picture, why is that?

The file you want to select is in the Adobe Photoshop Elements 10/Suport Files folder:
It should be the same for the earlier version of PSE as I recall.
Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
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Terence, Is the picture folder the primary source for the images or does that data reside somewhere else?
If you gathered them there, then yes.
I really don't want to have to go through 14,000 images looking for the pictures that I want to keep (or is that my only option?).
Only you can decide what you want to keep.
Why does the computer keep making copies of the images and filing them under date and events?
That's how iPhoto works. It's not a problem usually, only you did go in there and make a problem, and now we are trying to fix it.
You advise not to muck around in the picture file via preview,
No I don't. I advise not to much around in the iPhoto Library Folder.
but if I download images through a program other than iPhotos - image capture or adobe aren't I doing that anyway?
Adobe what? Adobe is a software manufacturer who make many excellent applications, you need to be more precise. And no, if you import photos with Image Capture or “adobe” no you are not interfering with the iPhoto Library Folder.
Can you edit a base image file somewhere and remove it from the HD without iphoto making a copy of it and storing it somewhere else?
This is stunningly easy. Don't use iPhoto. Use an image editor.
I want to look the negatives, decide which ones I want and throw the rest away. Can that be done or am I way off course?
Yes, and iPhoto (or similar apps) make this really easy.
Hook up your camera. Import the pics to iPhoto. Go through the imported pics. Trash the ones you don't want. Then process the ones you do. But you must learn how to use iPhoto to do this successfully
To trash: put the pic in the iPhoto trash and empty it. This removes the file from iPhoto and the Hard Disk.
Process it: If you want to use another editor: You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
Regards
TD

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Hi there,
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Well there's a first - someone complaining about lossless editing!
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