Image looks quite different when imported from camera to Lightroom

Hi there,
I am hoping that there is someone out there that might be able to help me with a problem I have.
I took a number of photos yesterday and I uploaded them to lightroom. The photos looked properly exposed with a nice color on the camera LCD screen. When I imported and then opened these photos in Lightroom, I noticed that the photos were underexposed with an orange cast on skintones. The photos were not very nice at all, and I played with levels etc, but could not get the same look I saw on the LCD.
I shot in JPG Fine, colour profile in camera is Adobe RGB (1998). imac monitor is calibrated.
Has anyone experienced this or know how I might be able to correct the image to look more like what I am seeing on the LCD when I am shooting?
Any help greatly appreciated - Thanks!
Donna

Since you are shooting jpeg, it is not the profile issue, so there are a small list of causes left.
1. The camera LCD is lying to you. This is very possible, but most cameras have a display that, while not trustworthy absolutely, at least renders skintones sort of OK. You can test this by posting one of your originals (so NOT the lightroom edited versions) somewhere for us to see. We can check if the skintones are normal.
2. The calibration is bad. Sometimes calibration hardware is simply defective and you will get bad results no matter what. To check this, use a color managed browser (Safari since you have a Mac is fine) and check out this page. The top image should look OK (normal skintones) no matter if you roll over your mouse or not.
3. If it is not 1 or 2, Lightroom is applying either auto-tone or some camera defaults to your images or you are applying a develop preset upon import. Check this by opening the original directly in preview and comparing to the version in Lightroom. If this is the case, go to your Lightroom preferences, hit the Presets Tab. Uncheck "Apply auto tone adjustments". Then click on "reset all default Develop settings". Now go back to your images and "reset" their develop settings, which is easy to do in the quick develop panel you get in Library. Also, next time you import, make sure you do not have any presets selected.

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OK, wondering if anyone else is experiencing this? I use Photoshop's Bridge import to pull my photos of my iPhone 3Gs. When I do, I often have these weird photos - I'm not totally sure why they are happening. And, the good news is that once they are pulled, they appear to be fine, but I'm just looking to see if I'm not the only one.
They seem to be possibly related to:
a) being taken by an alternate camera app (I've tried several, Camera Genius, Snapture, CameraFlash and CameraZoom - yep, trying to get a better photo!),
b) being altered in some way (I've used Photogene to improve some, but it makes a duplicate?), or
c) being copied or saved to the CameraRoll from another program (I'm a Phanfare user and their Photon app is phenomenal).
So, some pictures of examples below, but as long as they images are OK when they come in, is it just fine? I always worry when something is not what it should be on an Apple device or within an Apple software.
Thx - Alexa
(Saved to Camera Roll from Photon - you can see though that others saved the exact same way are fine?):
!http://www.alexacorcoran.com/misc/Picture4.png!
(Photo taken in Genius app)
!http://www.alexacorcoran.com/misc/Picture2.png!
(Photo edited with Photogene - is still vertical when I pull it off and obviously color, etc.)?
!http://www.alexacorcoran.com/misc/Picture3.png!
Message was edited by: akcorcoran

Hi Lawrence -
Thanks for your response! I'm on a Mac so my options are different, but I think about using a more basic viewer and went to iPhoto and looked at the pictures on my phone as a device, and they all look fine (or some are not duplicates) - so maybe it's just a Photoshop import thing or ghosting issue?
Alexa

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When I import photos from my camera to iPhoto, then upload them to facebook, they are not the original size. This is my first mac and first time to use iPhoto so maybe that's normal. Is there a setting I need to change? How do I know if the files I have imported are being saved on my computer with their original specs? I am hesitant to clear the pics from my camera, fearing I might lose their original quality!

Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
As for facebook, when using my old pc the photos remained the original size after uploading. It wasn't until I used iPhoto that they began to upload in a smaller version.
Are you referring to file size as in KB or MB or image size as in pixel dimension. As Terence pointed out I doubt if Facebook will accept a full image files at the original size. Most are in the MB range and Facebook would run out of storage space in no time.
It might very well be that iPhoto will resize the pixel dimension of the photos to a "standard" size for uploading and Facebook then downsizes the actual file size. That means compressing the file to make a smaller file but not a smaller image.

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When I plug in my digital camera to iPhoto 6, certain pictures do not import and get error message listing the files "file unreadable or wrong format." If I turn camera off and then back on, it gives the message again but with DIFFERENT files.
This happens recently on my iMac (never happened before). The same camera with same images plugged into my MacBook gives no problems. Both running 10.5.4.

Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. This will create a new library based on data in the albumdata.xml file. Not everything will be brought over - no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your albums and keywords back.
Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.
Regards
TD

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I'm importing old video from mini DV tapes into iMovie. Unlike many other people writing here, I'm not having trouble with the connection between the camera and the computer. That works fine. I click "import" and the video IS imported.
The problem is, iMovie splits up the video it loads into little clips, some are long and some are less than a second long. Then, when it displays them in the clips window, they are out of order. For instance, the first few bars of a song might be pulled off and be in a short clip near the bottom of the list while the rest of the song is in a longer clip near the top. As a result, I am forced to carefully put them back in order -- like making a jigsaw puzzle -- as I drag them into the project.
Can I either turn off whatever it is that splits the input into clips (I'd like just one big clip) OR at least could the clips be displayed in the order that they were loaded from the camera so that clips that belong together are next to each other?
Thanks (and sorry for asking what is PROBABLY a dumb question),
ak

The best answer I've found so far to my own question is the post from Randman here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9007098
As he points out, the problem is that iMovie is splitting and ordering the clips by their "time stamp", but if the video was previously edited (even by iMovie itself!) this time stamp may reflect the time it was edited rather than the time it was filmed. This is especially a problem for clips that have a title or special effect used on PART of it, because the modified part does not show up anywhere near the unmodified part in the list of clips.
Randman ALSO provides a sort of solution: rename the files themselves. I found this did work. (You rename them so that time stamps in the filename are in increasing order when listed in order by "last modified" which reflects the time they were loaded from the camera!)
I've written myself a script to do this automatically, but it is a bit of a hack and not really suitable for distribution. But, I suggest that someone with more time and programming experience than I write such a script that would help people with this problem!

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I just updated to iLife 06, and I noticed when I was importing new photo's into iPhoto 6, that the progress bar does not move. The photo's import fine, but I have no idea of the approximate time it will take, since the progress bar never shows up.
Has anyone else seen this? Is there any pref files I can clean out to see if I can get this feature back?
Thanks, and sorry if this has been discussed, but I could not find anything when searching the forums for this issue.
- Bruce

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I will test things out by locking some more photo's and seeing if the progress bar shows up when I import. I also chose to delete the original photo's after importing them.
Has anyone else imported a lot of pictures, and had a few locked on the camera, and noticed if the progress bar works or not?
- Bruce

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