Image stabilization question...

I have use the image stabilization in Motion and found it very good.
I have also got AE CS3 (Windows) which does not have a good comparitive image stabilization.
What 3rd party plug in should I buy for AE that would do a good job?
(At the moment I am testing out Mocha but the trial version would let me export more than 10 frames !!! So, I can't really tell what a good overall job its done?)
ps: I know its an Apple forum,but I know a lot of users here also have AE and would like to help me out)

You might have better luck at Creative Cow. Lot of AE users hang out there.
Andy

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I did some preliminary research last night and found that the Sanyo Xacti HD1010 is very similar to the Sony TG5V, and it/the Xacti HD1010 does indeed have an external mic jack, so that solves the microphone requirement.
Reviews have said, however, that the Sanyo HA1010 has poor IS (Image Stabilization) and that in fact, the Sony TG5V has a much better IS. I even saw some comparisons, and it is obvious that the Sony stabilizes better.
HOWEVER: *Since I am going to edit with iMovie '09, which has a fine Image Stabilizer/Non Shake feature, would that make up for the bad shake in the raw footage?* More precisely: Would the same footage I shoot come out just as smooth with the Sanyo Xacti HD1010 with poor IS as it would come out with my Sonya TG5V and the iMovie '09 Image Stabiizer, working double time, so to speak?
And also: I am still looking for a small, lightweight videocam that I can carry in my purse. I do not need or want a larger one. I have a larger Sony that I never use. I welcome any suggestions.
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Can't tell you why it suddenly set itself, that seems odd. But the mechanism it uses to 'stabilize' video is to zoom into the video frame (cutting out stuff around the edges) then it tries to tilt the video frame left and right to keep everything oriented properly. That's why it has been zoomed in to the 105% level. It only really works for High Def video frames that already have a lot of extra space to work with and if the subject in the frame isn't in a very tight closeup but has a good deal of empty, 'whitespace' around it.

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I've got a multicam clip in my timeline that I would like to use image stabilization on. What I'd like to do is:
double click on the clip which brings up the angle editor with the range and angle selected.
press cmd-B to blade the clip
turn on image stabilization.
Unfortunately, step one doesn't work. I'm forced to open up the angle editor and manually skim and search for the desired angle and time range. It would be okay if the playhead in the angle editor was slaved to the one in the timeline. Then when you went into the angle editor you'd be right at the desired source material, but no, the two seem to be independant of each other. It makes performing the task much slower and more tedious. So much so I am convinced more experienced users are going to know a quicker way to do it.
So, does anyone know an easier work-around for this?

Thank you Tom and Luis, but I'm not with any of this. I can add a clip to the timeline or insert a clip into it via the "arrow tools". If I attempt to shorten the clip IN the timeline there is a blank space representing the amount trimmed from the clip.
I want the next clip along to that I've trimmed to automatically move along the timeline albeit shortening the total project duration.
Pressing "A" on the keyboard doesn't achieve this.
I simply click on the clip in the timeline to highlight it with the yellow margin. I then click on one "edge" with the arrows symbol and drag the edge inwards. This then leaves the space I do not want.
As for "Preferences" when I click this under "Final Cut Pro" i see nothing either relevant to this problem or that I could trash.

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A tripod.

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When I access image stabilization, apply, and render it. Only sometimes will it work. Help.

daveypr
It looks like you have come up with the answer to your particular situation. Great.
But, so that your experience can be of benefit to those finding your thread
a. What version of Premiere Elements are you using and on what computer operating system is it running?
b. How were you not applying the video stabilizer to the whole video clip in the first place? Or, are you suggesting
that others apply the video stabilizer to all the clips on the Timeline instead of one video clip that may really need that effect?
Thanks.
ATR

Can 5 axis image stabilization be engaged with non system lenses for A7II and A7rII?

Many people use/will use their excellent non system manual focus non system macro lenses on the A7II and undoubtedly on the soon to be released A7RII. Stabilization in the X/Y planes is very very important for macro. Sony on the A7II only stablizes the X/Y planes for lenses that report the focus distance as best I can tell. Perhaps the lens compensation app or another can be modified so this data can be manually inputted or even change the firmware to allow this and thus stabilize all 5 axes. Focal length will need to be inputted of course as well. Perhaps there is another way around this that I have missed. Thanks for any comments.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. I have done more digging in reviews and recalled sony's announcments which implied on 3 axis IS is available w/o a lens that reports focsing distance. Not my favorite source, but review from PCMag: "If you're using a non-native lens, or even a native manual focus lens like the Zeiss Loxia 2/50, it's stabilized along three axes—yaw, pitch, and roll. There's a technical reason for that. In order to compensate along the x and y axes, the camera needs to know the distance to the subject, which requires electronic communication of the focal distance from the lens to the body. To compensate for the other three axes, the only data that needs to be transmitted is the focal length of the lens. Even if you're using a purely mechanical Leica lensit can be stabilized—you're able to manually enter the focal length via a menu. The only real downside to this is that the A7 II does not add that focal length to the recorded EXIF data, so if you like to track which lens a shot is captured with, you'll need to take notes." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2475439,00.asp A friend informed me that on his A7II he must mount a non OSS Sony lens first to have any image stabilization with any of his totally manual lenses--seems the camera saves the settings of the last lens attached. Turning the cam off doesn't reset this--very odd---seems to be a bug in the firmware. I hope the A7rII is different. This whole issue is quite confusing. Appreciate any additonal clarification.

Allow 5 axis image stabilization for non system lenses in A7(r)II series

Many people use/will use their excellent non system manual focus non system macro lenses on the A7II and undoubtedly on the soon to be released A7RII. Stabilization in the X/Y planes is very very important for macro. Sony on the A7II only stablizes the X/Y planes for lenses that report the focus distance. Perhaps the lens compensation app can be modified so this data can be manually inputted or even change the firmware to allow this and thus stabilize all 5 axes. Focal length will need to be inputted of course as well. If the new field is left blank, no action is taken as not to affect users not interested in this feature. Olympus somehow allows all 5 axes to be stabilized just by putting in the focal length but it is not clear how they pull that off. Thank you for considering this.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. I have done more digging in reviews and recalled sony's announcments which implied on 3 axis IS is available w/o a lens that reports focsing distance. Not my favorite source, but review from PCMag: "If you're using a non-native lens, or even a native manual focus lens like the Zeiss Loxia 2/50, it's stabilized along three axes—yaw, pitch, and roll. There's a technical reason for that. In order to compensate along the x and y axes, the camera needs to know the distance to the subject, which requires electronic communication of the focal distance from the lens to the body. To compensate for the other three axes, the only data that needs to be transmitted is the focal length of the lens. Even if you're using a purely mechanical Leica lensit can be stabilized—you're able to manually enter the focal length via a menu. The only real downside to this is that the A7 II does not add that focal length to the recorded EXIF data, so if you like to track which lens a shot is captured with, you'll need to take notes." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2475439,00.asp A friend informed me that on his A7II he must mount a non OSS Sony lens first to have any image stabilization with any of his totally manual lenses--seems the camera saves the settings of the last lens attached. Turning the cam off doesn't reset this--very odd---seems to be a bug in the firmware. I hope the A7rII is different. This whole issue is quite confusing. Appreciate any additonal clarification.

AS3 image stabilization

I writing a motion detection script which works fine but there is a small amount of camera movement between frames and I need to automatically align the new frame with the old one to ensure the motion detection works well (the object I'm tracking is quite a small part of the image). This is what lenses with image stabilization do but this needs to be done in Flash itself. I could code my own but I'm sure there is a very efficient, tried and tested, way of auto-aligning images but I can't find it. Any suggestions much appreciated?

If I understood your task correctly...
Camera image stabilization, to my knowledge is accomplished via employing mechanical devices (gyroscopes?). In software this kind of thing is done with some sort/degree of AI. Most famous is facial recognition. I guess everything boils down to BitmapData processing and math algorithms.
You said that you have already written some code so I assume you are profficient in BitmapData manipulations.
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I have an image printing question for an HP 8600 Office. I am trying to get a decent quality image to print
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Good luck and please let me know the results of your troubleshooting steps. Thank you for posting on the HP Forums!
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Camileo S10 Camera does not remember the image-stabilizer setting

Hello Forum reader,
Is it normal that my Camileo S10 Camera does not remember the image-stabilizer setting?
I mostly use the 720px setting and stablilizer on, but after the camera is turned off the stabilizer is off again.
Greetzz.. Ben

Hi
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I emailed them to ask if they would upgrade it soon and their reply was as follows:
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I have got a tripod but, as I explained in my post, the wobbly clips are caused by the fact that I was filming while walking about so my tripod would not be any help in that situation anyway. As the problem already exists in the video, I'd like to correct it.
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Hello,
Unfortunately there is no plan to update the Stabilizer plug-in for Mac OS X 10.7 or later. Since Apple closed the door for us to continue to develop plug-ins, we no longer have the resources to update plug-ins from iMovie HD 6 to the most recent versions of OS X.
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GeeThree Slick Team
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I have preordered CS5, and currently make use of the mercalli FX plugin to stabilize shaky video clips. It doesn't appear that mercalli will be compatible with CS5 for a while, is there some other plug in I can use to provide high quality image stabilization?
Has anyone used motion stabilization in After effects and compared it to what Mercalli does?
For now I guess I will stabilize clips in Premiere Elements, export them, then use the pre-stabilized clips in CS5 but that will get cumbersome fast.
Are there any really high quality motion stabilization plug ins that will be compatible with CS5? Has anyone here compared Mercalli to other solutions, and found one that's better?
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As far as I know, the new version is available to existing users only, on special request. It is expected to be generally available at the end of this month, and the help files will be with it then.
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field order - Mercalli is not good at detecting this automatically when used as a Premiere plug-in;
treatment of borders - an inevitable consequence of all stabilisation is that the area of video moves within the frame, leaving blank areas at the edges. these vary from frame to frame and there are three alternative ways of handling this. the new version is less clear in this, to me at least. I normally zoom the video to eliminate the black borders.
transitions - if you apply Mercalli to a clip in your timeline and then apply transitions to the end(s) of the clip, the analysis will have to be done again, as you have introduced previously unconsidered areas to the clip. I normally apply Mercalli to the clip on a second timeline, render and export the clip, making sure that I include all the material that I may want to use, if I apply transitions. I generally apply colour correction, etc before exporting to avoid as far as possible quality loss due to repeat rendering. I usually apply 10% sharpen filter at this stage too. The new version offers a stand-alone version, which I like very much as it marks in red areas of the video in which extreme correction has to be applied, opening up scope for selecting the "less-unstable areas of video for use.
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Image stabilization problem

I am having a problem with image stabilization. After applying motion settings to scale zooming in on the clip and also "panning" in the Canvas using Image and Wireframe, the image "flutters" I applied the image stabilization filter from the Effects tab > Video filter > Video folder in the Browser. It appeared to work very well, but after I burned and viewed my DVD, the image as I said, flutters.
Now, I tried applying the Stop Motion Blur filter, also in the Video directory, but I can still see faint fluttering in the Canvas. I could live with the quality that is displayed in the Canvas, but after burning the DVD, it looks pretty bad. Any ideas on how I can smooth out the image on these clips?
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What do you mean by, "unless it's set to be 100% size,
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He means that when Canvas is set to "Fit to Window" it
uses only one field of the image to save on processing
cycles. When it's set to 100%, both fields are used,
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