Images importing with a NTSC timebase in PAL projects

Importing a series of jpeg images (various sizes) into a PAL project is resulting in the clips created having a NTSC timebase (Video Rate of 29.97fps). Not a big problem, but annoying as a clip that is set to 3:12 goes onto the timeline with a duration of 3:10.
Has anyone else had this happen?

When you say : «bad idea not to export at least a master in full res» how can I do this ?
What I meant was that for EVERY single project you work on you should always at the end export a QT movie self-contained with same settings as a Master.
So that is something to do next time you edit and complete a project, for this particular situation you posted about I told you already what to do.
Luca

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There is no reason why you can't save the PAL project as a new project - NTSC version - then take out all the assets that are video (and therefore PAL) then change the project to NTSC settings. This way the basic structure is there - you will need to reconnect stuff etc and you may find that buttons you have created "disappear" from the menu screens (due to the different frame size of NTSC and PAL)
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What Richard said. I'll add three things.
Encore won't let me edit the quality settings to change from NTSC to PAL. These settings are greyed out. I take it they are dictated by the assets.
They are dictated by your selections when you created the project. And NTSC vs PAL are not settings that can be changed in the project settings once created.
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Hi,
Ive been busy on this the last few days lol.
after using the "best quality dvd " settings in compressor, I go to import the assets into DVDSP but it says " cannont import NTSC assets into PAL projects"
1. how is it NTSC and since im in Europe Id like a Pal project. what dvd settings am i doing wrong in compressor?
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Hi seanie84
Check your timeline. It sound as if you have made your project in NTSC and not in PAL.
FCP has a default of NTSC when you start a new project from new unless you change all the defaults when you installed FCP.
If not this then your film footage maybe NTSC and when you first put a clip on the time line it would have asked you if you wanted to set the timeline to the same as the clip, if you said YES then it could be that, if so make a new timeline and then copy all footage from old timeline and if asked say NO to "the make timeline same as footage".
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God in heaven - NO!
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The results of attempting this "on the fly" with menus etc would very closely resemble a dogs dinner.
>I would therefore guess that you are stuck with copying the menus and other such assets into a new Encore project for each output format.
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