Images looks darker in Adobe Camera Raw than in Photoshop

when I open a raw image in adobe camera raw at 16 bit Adobe RGB and don't make any adjustments in acr when I then bring it into Photoshop is looks softer contrast and lighter.

James Bechdel wrote:
I think I solved it. Every place I could change to Adobe RGB I did
Er...I don't really think that solves anything. But you may succeed in temporarily hiding the problem.
You do have PS color management policies at "preserve embedded profiles", right? As long as you do, there's no particular need to synchronize PS / ACR / Lr color settings, any source profile should be honored anywhere.
The reason Adobe RGB works as monitor profile is because it's a known good, not corrupt, profile - not because it's the same as a document profile somewhere. Those two are not supposed to be the same. But for a wide gamut monitor it's close enough to work for diagnostic purposes.
NEC Spectraview is a solid and reliable calibrator. But that doesn't help if the OS doesn't load the profile correctly.
One gotcha with Spectraview (and Eizo Colornavigator) is that it's so easy to switch calibration target and the associated monitor profile. That's fine, but you also need to relaunch any color managed application that happens to use the monitor profile. That profile is loaded by the application at startup, and it will continue to use it even if it's changed at system level.

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Output sharpening in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and Photoshop CS5

Output sharpening in Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) and Photoshop CS5
I want to do two-pass sharpening - capture and output - with output capture done just before I print. I do the initial (capture) sharpening in the ACR Detail/Sharpening panel, with Amount slider set to, for example, 100. Then, I open the image to PS CS5 as a Smart Object, and use layers and masks for further editting.
My question is, can I go back to ACR for the final (output) sharpening pass? When I re-open the file in ACR, the Sharpening Amount slider is back to zero, but the other three sliders are still at the settings I used at the start of the process, i.e., the capture sharpening. If I again set the Amount slider to a positive value, then again open the image in PS for printing, will my second pass through the ACR Sharpening panel take effect - will it accumulate on top of the initial sharpening?
By the way, the reason I want do output sharpening in ACR rather than, say, PS Unsharp Mask, is so I can use the Masking slider in ACR, which is much easier than the comparable techniques available in PS. I am aware that some say you should not do any masking for the output sharpening. I'd like to though.
Thanks for ideas.

This is pretty much the way I do it, and I also always found ACR sharpening superior to anything in Photoshop. There is the "sharpen for output" in ACR, but you have little control over it.
The tricky part is feeding the file through ACR a second time. I don't think re-opening the Smart Object will do anything more than you could have done the first time. I do it with a rendered TIFF, and have an intricate set of actions that I run in the Image Processor Pro. It's a mess, and you don't want to know.
The frustrating part is how to action ACR. I just can't figure it out. It'll work, and then I have to change some setting and the action stops working. I suspect you need a script, but so far I haven't found any.
So I've come to a compromise: I first process to TIFF in a temp folder, then I bulk open them in ACR to sharpen, then a second process to finish up.
For less critical files I have a sharpening action that comes close, involving edge masks and blend ifs, using smart sharpen which tends to preserve edges better than unsharp mask, and with less accumulation of noise.
Bottom line: I'm also very interested in further comments to this. BTW, I recently bought Lightroom 4, so maybe there is a posibility using that in a mixed workflow.

Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7

Is it still possible to purchase the Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7?
If so, can the plugin read *.raw files from an Olympus C-8080?

HI mattscreative,
Yes I've installed that but that imports .orf files and my camera saves .raw files.
Thanks,
Mike
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:26:25 -0600
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Subject: Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7
    Re: Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7
    created by mattscreative in Photoshop Windows - View the full discussion
Have you tried using the software for your camera? Looks like Olympus has one available for PS 6.0 and up. C-8080 Software:
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/software_results.asp?id=961& os=w Instructions:http://www.olympusamerica.com/files/oima_cckb/Rawplugin_instr.pdf
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Adobe Camera Raw VS. Photoshop?

When should you use Camera Raw for white balancing and other image adjustments vs. Photoshop. Besides working with raw camera format images, are there things that ACR does better than PS?
Thanks.

I am of a mind with D Fosse on this one. Make it look right initially in ACR then make it right in Photoshop.
You might find there are those who seem adamant about doing virtually EVERYTHING in Camera Raw, but that seems flawed to me, because it virtually ignores the power of Photoshop proper - and make no mistake, there's real power there.
You should know that I experimented quite heavily for days to determine what all the sliders do and to finally choose a set of ACR defaults I can live with as a starting point - knowing that even with that set of defaults I'll be adjusting sliders in the ACR dialog for individual images.
Note that the 2010 process in ACR does not embody as much noise reduction by default as the previous 2003 process did. Don't be surprised if you end up dialing-in quite a bit more of it in the converter than you thought you might. And it's not simple; the results don't depend on just one slider, but a combination of several noise reduction and detail sliders. Tricky stuff to say the least, but it is conquerable.
I don't think there's any shortcut for experimenting then looking critically at the results. I found experimentation when I was getting close to the settings I wanted that went all the way through to creation of my various needed results (e.g., web images and prints) was helpful. In other words, when you have things where you think you like them, actually TRY making whatever products you like from your raw files - including making the color and exposure corrections you would normally do, sharpening, etc., and actually making prints or whatever. Then you'll know what to expect when you're on the hot seat to produce.
-Noel

Trouble with Adobe Camera Raw, Nikon D750, Photoshop CC 2014

I have Photoshop CC 2014 running on an HP ZBook 15 with Windows 7 Professional. I recently downloaded Camera Raw 8.7.311. I did not install the DNG converter. I shoot raw in my Nikon D750. I download the NEF images to my HP laptop using a memory card reader. I installed Bridge from Creative Cloud. When I check in Photoshop CC 2014, it says the Camera Raw 8.7.1.311 plug-in is present. But if I try to open a NEF image, it fails and says it is an unsupported file type. When I go into Bridge, the "Open using Camera Raw" option is faded and cannot be selected. So what do I do? TIA, Rob

Success! My problem was I had the old version of the Nikon software on my computer and I had used that to download the photos. I copied the NEF files directly from my memory card reader and then could open them no problem in Photoshop CC 2014. Many thanks to gener7 and all who made suggestions.
Rob

Adobe Camera Raw Plugin for Photoshop Elements 4

I have downloaded the latest Raw Plugin for Elements 4 successfully and have gone through all the steps except i havent installed Raw Plugin as yet, i would like to know if i have to unzip the files in the downloaded Plugin before i install into Elements 4 or install as is and unzip when it's installed into Elements 4 ? Many thanks Lloyd fro OZ

In order to use the new plugin in Photoshop Elements 4, you will need to run the 4.0.1 Updater. Support for this version of ACR is the ONLY feature of the 4.0.1 updater.
Unfortunately, the new ACR plugin came out before we could get the PSE 4.0.1 updater out, so we need to do a workaround for the time being.
Until the Updater gets posted (which we expect to be on or before May 20), you can use the converter to convert your Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ8 files to RAW, then use them in the program.
The Converter can be found at: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=3604
Sorry for the delay between the ACR posting and the PSE Mac updater posting.
-Mark

Adobe Camera Raw Update in Photoshop CC

Problem is my Lightroom 5 is using ACR 8.4 but when I use Ctrl E to send my photo over toe Photoshop CC for editing in TIFF it always says that the ACR is incompatible as a different version with the ACR in Photoshop being only only on version of 8.3.0.141 !! It says to use PS update to bring ACR up to date within PS but that just tells me PS is all up to date as I would expect being a CC subscriber. So I have two different versions of ACR, a later one in LR5 and PS CC with an earlier version.
So how do I update ACR in Photoshop CC to version 8.4 so it is the same version as in LR5 and avoid these error messages when porting photos over form LR5 to PS CC and so it remains in sync with LR5 in the future too ???

There should be a link to download ACR 8.4 for PS and manually install it, but I can't find it right now - keep getting sent to an ad page for CC. I'm not that familiar with LR, but there might be a feature that allows you to export your files as a lower version of ACR until someone can find the 8.4 download.

Adobe camera raw window won't resize and can't reach buttons

When I open an image from bridge into adobe camera raw 6.1 (Photoshop CS5) on my laptop, the camera raw window fills all of the screen (top to bottom) and the buttons at the bottom of the window are below the task bar. Thus I can't open the image in photoshop except by hitting the enter key. I can't reach the open, etc buttons. The window won't resize and there are no icon/buttons in the right upper corner to go to/from full screen. When I hit the icon in the top right hand menu bar in ACR (to go to full screen size) the window then fills the whole width of the screen in addition to the height, but no matter what I do I can't get the height of the window to shrink, so that I can access the icons at the bottom of the screen. What am I missing? Thanks

Don't worry about turning aero off just yet.
There are two key first questions:
What is your screen resolution (width in pixels x height in pixels)? Right-click on desktop, choose Screen Resolution.
What setting have you chosen for the display size (Smaller, Medium, Larger) in the Display dialog? Right-click on desktop, choose Personalize, then Display.
-Noel

Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop Actions

Hi guys,
I'm having troubles with Adobe Camera Raw settings and Photoshop actions. Basically, here is what I want to do :
apply settings for the general colours, exposure, tint, etc., but keep an automatic undistortion of the images thanks to the metadata of the CR2 file.
The preset I've done is working fine, and when I'm in ACR, I can apply the same preset to different photos with different lenses. Then when I'm opening them in photoshop, they look allright.
The problem seems to appear when I'm creating the action in photoshop. No matter if the lens profile is set to 'auto' in the preset, it looks like it's applying the one from the original preset. Then let's say the preset was created with a 50mm, then when I launch the action on a 85mm, the undistortion is wrong ...
If anybody has an idea how to fix the problem, that would be really helpful !
Thanks a lot,
Julien

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I'll put I this posting in the photoshop community so the experts there can help you.
We also have many other forums relating to other Adobe products
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Aperture and Adobe Camera Raw

I would love to set up Aperture to allow me to edit images in Adobe Camera Raw. I can open images from Aperture in Adobe Camera Raw by setting Adobe Bridge as my external editor, but none of the adjustments are saved in Aperture. From Bridge, I can also save the file as a dng file that Aperture should be able to read and save it in the numbered folder where Aperture placed the original raw image, but the saved dng file doesn't show up in Aperture. Apparently Aperture can't see any images in its own folders if it didn't place them there.
I also tried making my adjustments in Adobe Raw, saving it as a dng file and then importing it into Aperture. This is not ideal, as it would be convenient to do the Adobe Raw adjustments from within Aperture, but it does allow me to import the edits into Aperture. Aperture does something odd in this case. When I open the imported dng image in Aperture, at first it displays it with the edits I made in Adobe Raw but after a few seconds reverts to the originla raw image. I can't figure out how to recover the adjustments.
Can anyone fill me in on the nuances of Aperture in this workflow? Is there some way I can at least make the raw edits in Adobe Raw and make them available in Aperture.
Some of this may be my ignorance. For some reason, I have never been able to fully grok the whole version/master process in Aperture, never quite sure how to move between versions and masters. I suspect that some of my issues with the imported dng files is a version/master thing that I am not understanding.
I'm beginning to wish that I had set Aperture up to use external folders rather than place my files in the Aperture database. I think if I had done this it might have eased my current issues.
Is there any way to export an Aperture database so it exports the images into folders that correspond to projects and folders in Aperture? I suspect not, but . . . one can wish.
Any help with any of this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--Kenoli

Kenoli Oleari1 wrote
If this is what is happening, it means Aperture can interpret the ADR data, but chooses not to. If I could get it to use that data, it could solve most of my issues.
In the Adobe Camera Raw preferences, there is a section called: 'DNG File Handling'. You can (and may already have) select the option 'Update embedded JPG previews' and use the drop down to select either Medium or Full Size. The result should be (in Bridge at least) that adjustments you make in ACR and then either click 'Done' to save to the .XMP file inside the DNG file or click 'Open' to launch and render the image in PS for further work.
The result should be an updated embedded JPEG inside the DNG file that can be used by any program that can read DNG and is set to use an embedded JPEG.
In testing on my machine a couple of years ago on Snow Leopard, the OS X included program Preview did not show the updated previews though. It only displayed the original RAW data. I assumed it either was not set to show any embedded JPEG preview, or was simply not designed to be compatible in that way. Preview uses the same digital camera RAW compatibility function of OS X that Aperture uses. So it did not surprise me to see that it was not working in Aperture at that time. This was either a later version of AP 2 or early version of AP3, but I can't remember for sure.
It was my understanding that the purpose and function of dng files is so that raw edits made by any software could be accessed cross platform through the open source dng file. If Aperture simply chooses to ignore that data, it defeats the purpose of dng.
My understanding of DNG is that it is an archive type file made of (1) a RAW conversion which holds the decoded RAW data, (2) any .XMP file that has been created by the decoding software as well as; (3) ITPC and EXIF metadata and some other info such as ICC profiles and the JPEG preview. You can also opt to include the original RAW file.
I don't know the extent to which Aperture is designed to support the DNG file though. Does it handle it like a PSD file where it retains the full file content, but only supports displaying it in a limited fashion (e.g., no transparency)? Or should it actually read the .XMP data file and render it based on that info? I don't think this is the case as the .XMP data that pertains to adjustments made by another RAW decoder doesn't seem to be compatilble with the way Aperture is handling adjustments.
You could certainly test the embedded JPEG in a DNG file by making and saving some changes to the copy of a file in Finder and then comparing the original DNG to the adjusted one using the Preview program. If the changes are not shown, then the issue (or lack of one depending on Apple's point of view) is with the OS X digital camera RAW compatibility function (which they update for new digital cameras periodically).
If Preview does show the changes, you could then import both the original and adjusted DNG into an Aperture library (even a new test library) and see if it displays the differences. If it does, then this would point to an issue with sending a file from inside Aperture to an external program and then saving back (assuming this still fails to work as you expect).
Sorry I don't have more. I decided not to go with DNG and just archive with RAW and JPEG depending on what I end up wanting to do with the images.

Using Adobe Camera Raw as External Editor

I've recently purchased Aperture 2.1 and am very pleased with everything thus far. I capture the majority of my photos in the RAW format (Nikon NEF specifically), and the one thing I'm trying to work out is this - with iPhoto I am able to choose Adobe Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' and when opening an image for adjustments, iPhoto sends the the picture in its native format. Consequently, RAW formatted images open with the Adobe Camera RAW plug-in, jpegs right into Photoshop and so on. With Aperture I notice that I am still able to select Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' but instead of sending the native format, Aperture allows only the 'temporary' format options of TIFF and PSD (8 and 16-bit). Needless to say, the files open directly into Photoshop -instead of the Camera RAW plug-in that I would prefer for my RAW files. Does anyone know of any work-arounds or possible solutions to this issue?

iPhoto has no RAW conversion controls, but just makes a copy of the file for iPhoto edits.
When you choose to edit it in photoshop, it sends the original over to Adobe Camera RAW. This is NOT a non-destructive workflow.
Aperture has its own RAW converter- a quite good one- so the need for ACR is removed, and the workflow IS non-destructive. You should only be going to Photoshop for the things that Aperture is not designed to do like compositing and hi-end retouching
The only work around is to export the master then open it in ACR, but that workflow would be senseless.
Honestly, if you prefer ACR, then you should be using Bridge or Lightroom for DAM as well.
DLS

Information in Histogram in Adobe Camera RAW

Since I capture my images in RAW, when I open them in Adobe Camera RAW (via Elements 11), what information is displayed in the image and the histogram I see?
Is it showing me the jpeg created in the camera? If so, the jpeg settings in my camera are not only important in viewing the LCD and the histogram in my camera at the time of capture. They would also be important in viewing my image when it first opens in Adobe Camera RAW.
Thanks for some input.
Mary Lou

I have an answer to this question supplied to me from a forum on www.luminous-landscape.com. It is as follows:
Re: Understanding Camera RAW article
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Quote from: mlfrost on September 30, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
Perhaps you can answer a related question on Camera RAW. When I open an image captured in RAW format, I see an image and histogram in Adobe Camera Raw. Am I correct in assuming that the opening image and histogram are created from the camera's jpeg settings?
No...Camera Raw rips the entire raw image and does a demosaic and application of ACR defaults to generate the preview and the histogram (which is displaying the resulting graph based on the output color space set in ACR Workflow Options). ACR doesn't use ANY settings from the camera's JPEG settings and the only thing that ACR uses from the raw file is white balance info and the ISO metadata...

Adobe camera raw plugin for Premiere Pro

Check out this article, I just tried and it'd be magic if you could use this in premiere natively! Sending a feature request right now!
Adobe's Camera RAW Plugin Can Color Correct Your Video, & It Does an Amazing Job

HI mattscreative,
Yes I've installed that but that imports .orf files and my camera saves .raw files.
Thanks,
Mike
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 23:26:25 -0600
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Subject: Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7
    Re: Adobe Camera Raw plugin for Photoshop 7
    created by mattscreative in Photoshop Windows - View the full discussion
Have you tried using the software for your camera? Looks like Olympus has one available for PS 6.0 and up. C-8080 Software:
http://www.olympusamerica.com/cpg_section/software_results.asp?id=961& os=w Instructions:http://www.olympusamerica.com/files/oima_cckb/Rawplugin_instr.pdf
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Elements 12 and Adobe Camera Raw

If I load a Canon CR2 file into the 'editor' the image is opened in Adobe Camera Raw 8 - that is fine. If I then make a change to the exposure slider, or any other, and click 'done' ACR shuts down. Not very good, anyone know what is going on?
Regards
Gordon

Click the open image button (bottom right) to continue to the PSE editor.

Adobe Camera RAW (All Versions) Import Canon .CR2 / RAW images with an orange / green color cast.

All versions of Adobe Camera RAW including the latest 7.3 import .CR2 images with a greenish / orange color cast.
Tested on 7D, and 5D III
Makes Hardwood floors, and flesh tones look abysmal.
Canon's Digital Photo Professional renders the colors fine, as does ACDSee 5.0 Pro (when viewing) Exporting from ACDSee however is another story as things look even worse than Adobe. DPP can export perfectly.
Changes to Color Gammut / Space have little or no effect.

Good day!
You might want to post on the dedicated Camera Raw Forum.
http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw
Also posting some screenshots might help illustrate the issue.
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Images looks darker in Adobe Camera Raw than in Photoshop

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