Images stored in both iPhoto and PE11?

I have many of the same pictures stored in both iPhoto and PE11. I would like to drop iP. When I delete pictures in iP, will that affect the same pictures stored in PE11 Organizer (stupid having a large number of identical images stored twice on the computer..?).

Thanks all of you! There seems to be no full agreemenet here, however. The mess I feel I'm in is partly due to my ineptness, partly to the absurd complexity of the matter and partly to the crash I had with my new iMac. I got my reconstructed data on a mobile HD and started loading iPhoto with images. When I had my (newly aquired) PE11 reinstalled, I started to import images from iP. The arrived in event-folder, which means that I have to go through every picture to relocate it in an appropriate folder and album. Then I continued loading images from a memory stick (having tapped the mobile HD...).
Barbara - I'd love to believe your assertion. It sounds logical: I can delete the images in iP, and it will not affect the images I have loaded into PE11 Organizer...

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Can I use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library?

I like some of the features of iPhoto (like faces and places) but prefer to work in Aperture for its rich tool content. Is there any way I can use both iPhoto and Aperture on the same library? Or, import images from Aperture into iPhoto?
Thanks much!
John

I think you may have answered a question I have with the above, but to be sure here is what I would like to do. I currently have iPhoto09 with about 50,000 pictures in it, which seems too much for it to manage. I would like to use Aperture, which I understand is better for managing a large number of photos, but still have iPhoto available to make slide shows, etc. for our AppleTV. Would the process you described above work for that?
Thank you

Using both iPhoto and Aperture workflow help

I am using both aperture 3 and iPhoto 9 to edit and keep track of images
I imported images to iPhoto the have Aperture import the iPhoto library this way I have i library..I know if something happens to it I am screwed
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program

Here's the best advice for using both iPhoto and Aperture:
Pick one horse and ride it. They both do the same job. If you're shooting Raw or high volumes of Jpeg, then definitely go with Aperture. If you're doing family snaps with a point and shoot stick with iPhoto. Using both adds unnecessary complexity to everything, and with complexity comes the risk of error and data loss.
1) I know that Aperture is non destructive, is iPhoto?
Yes. In a wholly different way, mind you, but yes. WHen you edit an image in iPhoto it creates a new file called the Modified Version. You can always revert to the Original photo. If you edit only with iPhoto then you can also avoid generational loss.
2) will changes ( like GPS location) in aperture be applied to iPhoto images
No.
3) looking to see if I can make changes made in one program appear in the other
You can't.
4) or it it better to import the images in from my external drive (how they were before iPhoto), and have a separate library for each program
It makes no sense to use both programs.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
What are you hoping to achieve by running both?
Regards
TD

RAW image import (problem in iphoto and aperture)

either the problem is me (my understanding of what I am trying to do) or something has gone awry with both aperture and iphoto...
when importing RAW images (canon 40d camera) many of which are shot in monochrome and show up as such on the camera (they even show up in b/w on the preview import in iphoto and aperture) ALL images once imported to both iphoto and aperture are in full color. This was not the case on two previous imports (shots taken in b/w RAW imported as b/w RAW images) but now seems to happen every time. I have restarted computed, reimported, checked all settings and nothing is working.
I am missing something, yes? Thanks for any help.

no ... you will have to export it as a .tiff or .jpeg ...
and then import into aperture ...
although aperture does have a great monochrome tool worth checking out ...
something to consider is to shoot your monochromes in RAW+JPG and import into aperture ...
see here for working with RAW+JPG:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=380111&tstart=0
when stacked you will have the B&W from in camera and the colour RAW file ... tweak the monochrome mixer until the RAW is to your liking ... you can use the B&W JPG for a baseline ...

How do I add photos to photo stream from BOTH iPhoto and Aperture

I use Photostream for displaying photos I have taken on my DSLR on my iPad. I take the photos, download them into iPhoto and then add them to Photostream. They then appear on my iPad for display to friends and family. But some of my photos are now being manipulated in Aperture. I'd like to display these in the same Photostream, but so far, because I have to choose either the iPhoto libray or the Aperture library - but not both - for the photostream, the only way I can do this is to export the photos from Aperture into iPhoto (which doubles up my photo files). Is there a simpler way to do this?

OK. But let's say you are in iPhoto and you switch libraries so that you are now looking at your Aperture library. In order to add photos to your photostream you have to activate iCoud/photostream again in your iPhoto preferences for the new library. Then you get a message up which says: "iCloud Photos for [my iCloud email address] is being used with another library named "iPhoto Library". Switching iCoud Photos to this library will turn it off in iPhoto library."
In other words this does not solve my problem of how to have one photostream which contains photos from BOTH iPhoto and Aperture.
Is it perhaps possible to merge the iPhoto and Aperture libraries so that you only have one library for both applications?

How do I rebuild a common library used by both iPhoto and Aperture?

I'm using a common library for both iPhoto and Aperture—latest versions of each and Mavericks. I'm finding photos that are in the library that seem to have fallen out of their events or projects. When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?

it will not matter, if you rebuild in iPhoto or Aperture.
You rebuild the library by launching either Aperture or iPhoto while holding down the key combination⌥⌘ (option-command) and double-clicking the Aperture or iPhoto icon. Keep holding down the keys, until you are seeing the Library First Aid panel. Select to Rebuild the database.
Back up your library before rebuilding.
When I open those events or projects, the folders are empty, however the photos are still in the database. How do I rebuild this library so as to recover my original organization?
Where are you seeing the photos, that are missing from the projects, but are still in the database?
Rebuilding will collect photos, that have lost the connection to the edited versions, and show them in a "Recovered Project". It will not restore them to the original projects, if it is not clear, what where the originals belong to.
Have you checked, if you have filters set, that are hiding the photos? Check the search fields in the browser and the Info panel, if they are cleared and set to "Show All".

Use both iPhoto and Aperture with one library-best practice?

I'd like to use both iPhoto and Aperture, but have both programs use/update just one photo library. I have the latest versions of both programs, but was wondering if the optimum approach would be to:
a)point Aperture to the existing iPhoto library and use that as the library for both programs
or
b)import the entire iPhoto library into a new Aperture library, delete the iPhoto library, and point iPhoto to use the Aperture library.
I should point out that up to now I've been using iPhoto exclusively, and have close to 20K photos in the iPhoto library, tagged with Faces, organized into various albums, etc; if that makes a difference...
Appreciate any advice!
Thanks,
Dave

Thanks Frank! I'll try it that way.
Appreciate the help!

HT204414 How to import both iPhoto and Aperture library to iCloud Photo Library (Photos app)

Hi all,
Based on the article here (Designate a System Photo Library in Photos - Apple Support) has anyone tried to bring both an iPhoto and Aperture library into iCloud Photo Library so that both libraries are available as one in iCloud and form the one Photos app library rather than being seen as separate libraries. I don't want the two separated as I have 200GB's of space in iCloud which is plenty to hold the two's collective space of about 40GB's.
It seems as though the procedure is pretty simple.
First of all set one of your libraries as the System Photo Library, this will happen naturally with setting up Photos app for the first time. I chose iPhoto as the original library.
Let this library upload all it's photo's to iCloud over a few minutes, hours, days etc.
When finished, enter your other library by closing Photos app and reopening while holding down the Option key (usually Alt). In this case I now opened the Aperture library that it had found.
Under Preferences > iCloud set this library as the System Photo Library and in turn it will have the ability to upload to iCloud.
When it's finished I suppose you will have both iPhoto AND Aperture pictures in the one iCloud Photo Library.
At least I hope the above makes sense.
Anybody already tried this with good / bad results, let us know here.

found it here - 'If you designate a new library as the System Photo Library and then turn on iCloud Photo Library, the photos and videos in the new library will merge with those already in your iCloud Photo Library. If you want to keep the contents of your photo libraries separate, don’t turn on iCloud Photo Library for more than one library in Photos.'
That bit seems clear. You can merge photos from different libraries by making them 'designated' first .
BUT this means that Photos app only shows you library A , or library B, depending on which one you have opened , but Icloud library contains photos from Both library A and library B .
is this correct ?
and if so, does it not get a but confusing ?!?

Both iPhoto and Aperture hanging up immediately on launch

Both iPhoto and Aperture hanging up immediately on launch..
Please help in resolving the issues

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I have on my MacBook both iPhoto and Aperture and want to purchase iPhoto for iPad. If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ? Via icloud or some other feature tht work like PhotoStream?

I have on my MacBook both iPhoto and Aperture and want to purchase iPhoto for iPad. If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ? Via icloud or some other feature tht work like PhotoStream?

If I do so, will I be able to see all my MacBook iPhoto progress (places, faces, events, etc) on the iPad app ?
just some notes in addition to Ralphs answer: Your iPad is very useful to browse and show off your photos, i.e. the Retina iPad. You can sync to the iPad via iTunes or using the Photo Stream or a shared Photo Stream. But if you can browse and store all your photos on the iPad, will depend on the available storage on your iPad. Using iTunes you can sync events, albums, faces stacks, places stacks to your iPad. Not many metadata tags will transfer however.
See the iPhoto help on what iPhoto can actually do:
iPhoto Help: What is iPhoto? http://help.apple.com/iphoto/ipad/1.1/#blnkd2e20226
Regards
Léonie

Both iPhoto and Preview left 1 cm out my 4x6 inch (10x15 cm) at the bottom

Hi,
I test twice (printing) and both iPhoto and Preview left 1 cm out my 4x6 inch (10x15 cm) at the bottom of the photo paper. I'm using 10.5.6 and a HP Deskjet F380. Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Welcome to the Apple Discussions. First try the basic fix: close iPhoto, delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder, launch iPhoto and see if that helps.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

Bizarre import problems in both iPhoto and Aperture

Not sure how to explain this one .....
Tried importing photos (raw) from Cannon D10 into Aperture. Failed to import a significant number and gave a message saying that the following files were not able to be imported - but the list was blank!
So I tried the same import into iPhoto and although I still had a failure it was a significant amount less. So this time I tried just importing the failed files into iPhoto again and most of the failed photos went across with a small number still failing.
So I tried the same technique with Aperture and sure enough some of the failed files made it but not many. same problem with the list of failures being blank.
So I then imported the originally failed photos from iphoto into Aperture and all was fine.
I'm down to 2 files that are still failing to get into iPhoto, but it seems that perseverance pays.
There is nothing about the failed files that seems significant. They are frequently part of a series with exactly the same camera settings as ones that get across first time.
Duh?

With your camera connected, and both Aperture and iPhoto not running, try opening Image Capture. See how many images it displays for your camera, and then attempt to download them to a folder on your hard drive. I don't know why you're having issues importing using Aperture, but there are a number of things that Aperture can do and look for during an import that may be causing the problem. Image Capture is more basic in what it does, and may allow you to retrieve your missing images. If Image Capture is unable to get them, I'd try using a card reader.

Is it possible to keep both iPhoto and Aperture on the same Mac

I would like to use both IPhoto (for day by day pictures) and Aperture (for pictures made with my SLR in Raw format).
Is anybody able to advice me about this opportunity?

You can keep both Applications (iPhoto and Aperture) on the same computer and separate libraries for iPhoto and Aperture; images from both libraries will/should be available in other Applications from the Media Browser. In the long run, after you get accustomed to working Aperture, you will find it more convenient to migrate all your images to Aperture. Aperture has the more efficient storage strategy, you need less disk space to store multiple versions of the same image in Aperture than in iPhoto, and Aperture is the more versatile tool.
It is easy to migrate iPhoto libraries to Aperture, but that is a one way road, if you want to export back to iPhoto, you can export your images, but not all of your library structure.

Does anyone use both iPhoto and Aperture

I just got an mac book pro and I am trying to decide what to do with my iPhoto library that is on my old G4 eMac. I'm wondering if the best (and safest) plan would be to transfer that library to the new machine, bring it into iPhoto and then import the entire library into Aperture.
On second thought I wondered if it would be a good idea to leave everything in iPhoto and just open images in Aperture only when I want the extra editing tools... using Aperture for keeping all the "prime" photos and iPhoto for snap shots and iPhone pictures.
And... is it even possible to import the library from another machine directly into Aperture?
Thanks in advance,
bd

Pick one and stick with it. They don't actually integrate very much.
Aperture and iPhoto are entirely different applications that work in very different ways.
The only communication between the two is as follows:
Aperture is able to parse the iPhoto Library to allow it to import the contents while stacking the Originals and Modified versions, preserving metadata and so forth.
Aperture can share its Previews with the iLife apps, including iPhoto.
That's it.
So, specifically, what interaction there is between the two is designed to facilitate migration from iPhoto to the more powerful app. After that, iPhoto has exactly the same relationship to the Aperture Library as, say, Pages or iMovie.
iPhoto has no knowledge of, and knows nothing of how the Aperture Library works. It cannot read the Aperture library.
So if you decide to try this:
using Aperture for keeping all the "prime" photos and iPhoto for snap shots and iPhone pictures.
You'll end up using two apps to manage two different sets of photos, with twice the complications. Aperture is not an "external editor" and can't be used as such.
Think: Writing your novel in Word and TextEdit at the same time. "I'll write this chapter in Word, this paragraph in TE and then back to word..."
What of you wanted to sync your Photos back to your Phone? Which library will you use? You can't use both.
And... is it even possible to import the library from another machine directly into Aperture?
The routine would be to move the Library to the new machine and them process it into Aperture. Then trash the unwanted iPhoto Library.
Regards
TD

Delete photos in both iPhoto and Finder at the same time??

Is there any way I can delete photos in iPhoto AND at the same time delete them permanently in the finder?
We all take too many pictures with out digital cameras and we can't say for sure which once are good with just looking at the camera... so we have to import ALL of them to iPhoto. When we do that, they also get saved in the Finder. When you delete the bad photos in iPhoto you still sit on the bad photos in Finder...
Does anyone know an easy way to delete BOTH at the same time?
Thank you

I'm not sure I understand your set up:
And I wanted to let you know that under Preferences the box "copy items to the iPhoto Library" is checked.
So, all your pics are copied into the iPhoto Library. BUT you also have copies in the Pictures Folder. Why do you have two copies? They don't count as a back up because they aren't on a different volume, all they are doing is wasting disk space.
If you let iPhoto manage the files then you have no need to access them in the Finder. With iPhoto 7 (iLife 08) the old iPhoto Library Folder is now a Unix Style Package File. The change was made to the format of the iPhoto library because many users were inadvertently corrupting their library by browsing through it with other software or making changes in it themselves.
There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:
For 10.5 users: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Apple-Click for selecting multiple pics.
To upload to a site that does not have an iPhoto Export Plug-in the recommended way is to Select the Pic in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export and export the pic to the desktop, then upload from there. After the upload you can trash the pic on the desktop. It's only a copy and your original is safe in iPhoto.
This is also true for emailing with Web-based services. If you're using Gmail you can use THIS
If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
Or, if you want to access the files with iPhoto not running, then create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use THIS
Other options include:
1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
You can set Photoshop (or any image editor) as an external editor in iPhoto. (Preferences -> General -> Edit Photo: Choose from the Drop Down Menu.) This way, when you double click a pic to edit in iPhoto it will open automatically in Photoshop or your Image Editor, and when you save it it's sent back to iPhoto automatically. This is the only way that edits made in another application will be displayed in iPhoto.
I'm not sure I understand your problem.
Regards
TD

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