Images with no Embedded Profile

Can anyone tell me what LR does in terms of Colour Management if you import a non-raw format image e.g JPEG, that has no profile associated with it?
Does it Assign a specific colour space - if so which?
Thxs
Colin

>Does it Assign a specific colour space - if so which?
Images without an embedded profile are assumed to be sRGB and will be handled accordingly by Lightroom (i.e. on-the-fly conversion to Lightroom's own RGB colour space). Remember that all editing is carried out in Lightroom RGB.

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