IMAP Gmail + Apple Mail = strange behavior?

I'm using Apple Mail 3.0 and Gmail IMAP. I have several mailboxes (Gmail calls them "labels", I guess) set up in Gmail's webmail application, and they are mirrored on Apple Mail. I have also set up Gmail to download mail from three different POP account.
Here's the problem: for some reason, when I click on a message that has been downloaded from one of the POP accounts in the inbox in Apple Mail, it still appears as "unread" in Gmail webmail and in the "All Mail" Gmail folder in Apple Mail.
Somehow Gmail doesn't know that I'm clicking on the message, so it stays marked "unread". Because it stays marked unread, it is not automatically deleted after 30 days as it should be (I've been told that the 30-day period is not related to the date the message was sent, but to the time it was first accessed.) This means that I have several months of old messages stored on the Gmail server (and in my Gmail folders in Mail) that I don't want there.
Or it means that I have to manually go into the Gmail "All Mail" folder, either on Gmail webmail or in the "All Mail" Gmail folder in Mail on my computer, and manually click on the messages to mark them as read. This gets VERY tedious throughout the day.
Anyone else encountered this issue and figured out how to resolve it?

Sorry, I just noticed something. The problem is not only with the mail that comes in from the Fetch accounts. It also happens with mail sent to Gmail.
In the left-hand column of Mail 3.0, there's a folder called "Gmail" with a triangle next to it. Let's say a new mail comes into my inbox to my Gmail address. If I click on it in the inbox, it gets marked as unread in the inbox. However, I still see a "1" next to the Gmail folder indicating there's an unread message. If I click on the triangle to expand the folder, and then click on "All Mail", the folder seems to "update" itself and the unread email is marked as read (without me clicking on the actual message).
Otherwise, it seems to stay marked unread. Why is this?

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Sorry, I just noticed something. The problem is not only with the mail that comes in from the Fetch accounts. It also happens with mail sent to Gmail.
In the left-hand column of Mail 3.0, there's a folder called "Gmail" with a triangle next to it. Let's say a new mail comes into my inbox to my Gmail address. If I click on it in the inbox, it gets marked as unread in the inbox. However, I still see a "1" next to the Gmail folder indicating there's an unread message. If I click on the triangle to expand the folder, and then click on "All Mail", the folder seems to "update" itself and the unread email is marked as read (without me clicking on the actual message).
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I have had good success with ML Apple Mail...Snow Leopard I preferred Sparrow. Until recently I had no issues and everything was playing nicely. However, in the last 2 or so weeks I have noticed odd behaviors between the two platforms. What I noticed first was that mail that was read on my phone was still showing unread in Apple Mail. A re-sync didn't solve it but a quit and restart of Mail did. Hmmm. Now I also notice that sometimes in deleting mail my whol folder for my Gmail account would show nothing and a restart of the program would fix that.
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There is a better forum for issues with iCloud.
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I've been noticing the last couple months that whenever a new incoming message arrives from an ongoing thread/conversation in my Apple Mail client, it makes all prior emails in the same thread show up again as "unread", instead of just showing the latest message as unread. This means I tediously have to go and mark all prior messages in the thread as "read" again each time. When I log into gmail where the mail is hosted (as an IMAP account), the thread in question is hi-lighted to indicate a new unread message (including the email count for the number of messages in that thread), yet it seems only the most recent email is shown as unread. Somehow it seems Apple Mail is interpreting this message count in the Gmail thread as all being unread messages again each time.
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racb,
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Close mail.
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Look for - com.apple.mail.plist
Drag it into a new folder on your desktop – just incase you might need it latter.
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1/ Yes, the instructions did help. It was obvious, but I haven't ever used Mac's. They are the best, but switching over it's not the easiest.
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