IMAP subfolders in Mail.app

I am new to Mac, a recent switcher, so please forgive if this is a FAQ.
I have one IMAP account, with a subfolder in the inbox. I see all my inbox contents when I click at the inbox symbol in Mail.app, but I do not see the subfolder at all.
If I set up another account (or the same one under a different cover), I see two smaller inbox icons under the larger top one, each of which shows the subfolder.
How can I make that subfolder visible with just one account set up, either under the top level inbox symbol or force Mail.app to show the smaller inbox symbol (plus folder) underneath.
Thanks
- Tom

It seems to me like it's a bug in mail.app - it only shows the subfolders if there is more than one.
My workaround is to create an extra subfolder in the inbox. It then shows both subfolders.
This is on OS 10.5.8 - I don't know if they fixed this in any updates (maybe in 10.6 they've fixed it)

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