IMO after 12hr Tivo Premier Trial. Tivo and Verizon side by side.

Over the last year I have been a big Tivo fan and I still like my Tivo HD. BUT.............. Tivo Premier?????
Based on some of the things I have seen and heard. Verizon DVR with 1.9 img WILL beat the TiVO in many areas. If they get the guide right. The guide is one of, if not the biggest issues now. I have the TiVO Premier as of today and found the Cable Cards are portable as thought. I may wait for my second cable card to network the old with the new if it works, but with the Verizon img 1.9, I think it may just kick TiVOs bottom. I like some of the features of both. Shame we can't have our cake and eat it too.
Considering sending my Tivo Premier Back to Tivo.After 1st night's trial! Good News For Verizon! May cancel my second cable card order.
#1 The HD guide is nothing more than the SD Guide in HD format. Meaning no more data than the SD Guide.
#2 or #1 The HD Guide does not permit ANY parental controls and the box tells you, you must switch the DVR Back to SD for parental controls. WHAT A JOKE. Joke's on me!
#3 Tivo Premier all hype and no guts. Verizon's new DVR with img 1.9 will have all the hype and the guts to back it up. Kudos to Verizon!
#4 There are some advantages with Tivo, such as transferring content, but as new software and features are released content should become more portable with the Verizon DVR. Flex view needs work, and should offer more than what you buy on VOD. Recorded shows should be transferable to portable devices.
Overall I am not impressed with my $200 purchase and will be looking at a RMA for a credit on my purchase. I will keep my existing Tivo HD for now, but my new Tivo Premier is not all what it is promoted to be. I am not bashing another companies product, and like the product, but I am just posting my own personal opinion.
UPDATE:
TIVO Premier RMA in hand and TIVO is going back. My next upgrade will be a newer Verizon DVR.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I don't see a lot of need for the Tivo's anymore
now that you can get a DVR from Verizon and have the 1tb expansion with a clean fast running 7232.    The 7232 with 1.9 software is truly the way to go.  Especially if you need multi room viewing.   In order to get multi room out of the tivo units, you have to have tivo units in each room, and not every shopper or customer out there is willing or able to spend that much upfront on Tivo equipment.  It's a fine box, a polished interface, but the new 1.9 interface blows it out of the water for the most part
with Tivo you have a massive upfront investment, plus a monthly fee of about 16 bux a month comparable to the cost of a Verizon DVR, or you can add another upfront investment for a lifetime subscription.  
If you want the multi-room functionality to work, you have to multiply that upfront investment times the amount of rooms that you want.    
Not everyone can do that, or wants to do that.      
The 7232 or 7216 with 1 TB expansion and the 1.9 will be future proof, as prisaz pointed out, and is a no hassle no fuss solution tailored for the masses.  The only way I can see justifying a tivo at this point, is if I wanted to further off load my copied content to another PC, or upload it to the NET for back up purposes  

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    ----------- Payload: {7F9C94CD-0BAC-4F8F-8990-6A5886F4D550} Required Common Fonts Installation x64 1.0.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF054: Unable to read Adobe file version for file path 'C:\Windows\Fonts\KozGoPro-Heavy.otf'(Seq 16)
    ERROR: DF012: Unable to find file(Seq 16)
    ERROR: Error code: 2(Seq 16)
    ERROR: DF024: Unable to preserve original file at "C:\Windows\Fonts\KozGoPro-Heavy.otf" Error 32 The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.(Seq 16)
    ERROR: DW063: Command ARKDeleteFileCommand failed.(Seq 16)
    ----------- Payload: {2EE4F060-CEE6-4002-AA8B-91B791541767} Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.6.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF035: CreateAlias:Icon file does not exist at C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Utilities - CS5.5\Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.6\windows\pb_app.icofile:\\\C:\PIXELB~1\source\winwood\Staging    0X1.4E99CCP-1022rea\windows\pb_app.ico42178f80493091e8e552c84a2897e9da68fce32_32_f8049309 1e8e552c84a2897e9da68fce for icon C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Adobe Master Collection CS5.5\Adobe Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.6.lnk with target C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Utilities - CS5.5\Pixel Bender Toolkit 2.6\Pixel Bender Toolkit.exe(Seq 89)
    ----------- Payload: {E39A5ABD-516B-46F9-A042-694BBA6A4E08} Recommended Common Fonts Installation 1.0.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF054: Unable to read Adobe file version for file path 'C:\Windows\Fonts\ChaparralPro-Bold.otf'(Seq 20)
    ERROR: DF012: Unable to find file(Seq 20)
    ERROR: Error code: 2(Seq 20)
    ERROR: DF024: Unable to preserve original file at "C:\Windows\Fonts\ChaparralPro-Bold.otf" Error 32 The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.(Seq 20)
    ERROR: DW063: Command ARKDeleteFileCommand failed.(Seq 20)
    ----------- Payload: {CBDD7465-CE11-4A58-9497-C370B65923F1} Required Common Fonts Installation 1.0.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF054: Unable to read Adobe file version for file path 'C:\Windows\Fonts\KozGoPro-Heavy.otf'(Seq 15)
    ERROR: DF012: Unable to find file(Seq 15)
    ERROR: Error code: 2(Seq 15)
    ERROR: DF024: Unable to preserve original file at "C:\Windows\Fonts\KozGoPro-Heavy.otf" Error 32 The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.(Seq 15)
    ERROR: DW063: Command ARKDeleteFileCommand failed.(Seq 15)
    ----------- Payload: {7202D4A7-F7E6-4e7a-B77D-7B1C4E8B5CA6} Adobe Flash Player 10 ActiveX 10.0.0.0 -----------
    ERROR: Error 1722.There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A program run as part of the setup did not finish as expected. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action NewCustomAction1, location: C:\Users\kellyc\AppData\Local\Temp\InstallAX.exe, command: -install activex -msi
    ERROR: Install MSI payload failed with error: 1603 - Fatal error during installation.
    MSI Error message: Error 1722.There is a problem with this Windows Installer package. A program run as part of the setup did not finish as expected. Contact your support personnel or package vendor. Action NewCustomAction1, location: C:\Users\kellyc\AppData\Local\Temp\InstallAX.exe, command: -install activex -msi
    ----------- Payload: {11C0657F-2BD4-4CBC-87F3-9455DC91886E} Recommended Common Fonts Installation x64 1.0.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF054: Unable to read Adobe file version for file path 'C:\Windows\Fonts\ChaparralPro-Bold.otf'(Seq 21)
    ERROR: DF012: Unable to find file(Seq 21)
    ERROR: Error code: 2(Seq 21)
    ERROR: DF024: Unable to preserve original file at "C:\Windows\Fonts\ChaparralPro-Bold.otf" Error 32 The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.(Seq 21)
    ERROR: DW063: Command ARKDeleteFileCommand failed.(Seq 21)
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {067E43CD-3E9C-44BA-89FA-EDE7461BC22B} AIR for Apple iOS support (FB) 2.6.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {7745F18B-FD8A-4011-BE16-588900C503D0} Adobe Flash Fonts1 1.0.0.0 -----------
    ERROR: DF023: Unable to delete backup file at "C:\adobeTemp\backup\adobetmp521125891" Error 5 Access is denied.(Seq 2)
    ERROR: DW063: Error committing command ARKDeleteFileCommand(Seq 2)
    ----------- Payload: {7CF76BDA-73EA-4C46-A59D-FC3142D83E65} Adobe OnLocation CS5.1 Third Party Content Wrapper 5.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {301D39AF-43B1-445B-88CF-D78584200322} Adobe WinSoft Linguistics Plugin CS5.5 1.2.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {47CE893F-A0FF-4094-AA16-5209AEA7C7E0} Firefox Plugin CS5.1 6.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeContribute6.1-FFPlugin\OEM(Seq 32)
    ----------- Payload: {208DE3D5-541C-41B0-8595-7A608A6E4306} IE Plugin CS5.1 6.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeContribute6.1-IEPlugin\OEM(Seq 26)
    ----------- Payload: {DD309051-FACF-4A5E-87F1-C57154BB3DE8} Adobe Contribute CS5.1 6.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeContribute6.1-mul\OEM(Seq 8283)
    ----------- Payload: {8DADF070-FE60-4899-8EF0-4242E7702F7D} Adobe Fireworks CS5.1 11.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeFireworks11.1.0All\OEM(Seq 1215)
    ----------- Payload: {1C9D6B02-8B92-4E40-8B22-37D8C95430F0} Adobe Fireworks CS5.1_AdobeFireworks11.1.0en_USLanguagePack 11.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeFireworks11.1.0en_USLanguagePack\OEM(Seq 74)
    ----------- Payload: {DDBDE7B0-6FC4-40B1-B673-66EEE8CB60CF} Adobe Illustrator CS5.1_AdobeIllustrator15_1en_USLanguagePack 15.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {F9F276DA-9EC6-492C-AF58-F27C5EC19D66} Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 English Language Pack_x64_AdobePhotoshop12-en_US_x64 12.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
    ----------- Payload: {4A4F91EA-5951-4C5C-B911-027D802817EB} Office Plugin CS5.1 6.1.0.0 -----------
    WARNING: DF012: File/Folder does not exist at C:\CS5\payloads\AdobeContribute6.1-OfficePlugin\OEM(Seq 34)
    ERROR: DW050: The following payload errors were found during install:
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5 Support: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Recommended Common Fonts Installation x64: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - AdobeMotionPicture CS5.5: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe After Effects CS5.5 Support: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Required Common Fonts Installation x64: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe Story: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe After Effects CS5.5 Presets: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe After Effects CS5.5 Third Party Content Wrapper: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe After Effects CS5.5_AdobeAfterEffects10.5en_USLanguagePack: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Required Common Fonts Installation: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - AdobeColorVideoProfilesAE CS5.5: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - AmericanEnglishSpeechAnalysisModels: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5: Failed due to Language Pack installation failure
    ERROR: DW050:  - Recommended Common Fonts Installation: Install failed
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe After Effects CS5.5: Failed due to Language Pack installation failure
    ERROR: DW050:  - Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5_AdobePremierePro5.5en_USLanguagePack: Install failed

    Thanks. I tried the all the steps in the link you provided. Plus a few others from adobe support, I spent about 4 ½ hours on the phone with them over the past 2 days. I reinstalled all the Microsoft payloads, updated my video drivers, admin privileges, closed all my services and startups, uninstalled adobe air, flash player, deleted a few fonts from my system, although that was a pain because I had to go into safe mode to delete them, and I lost track off the rest. I haven’t had any troubles installing any other software, including CS4.
    Here is the new error when I try to install either after effects or Premier
    Exit Code: 7
    -------------------------------------- Summary --------------------------------------
    - 1 fatal error(s), 6 error(s), 4 warning(s)
    WARNING: DW031: Payload:{61A3D10A-AA4D-4E4C-B9DB-6A08D318EA41} Photoshop Camera Raw (64 bit) 6.0.0.0 has been updated and has been selected for repair. The patch {32841ECE-EC28-42CD-A4DD-6CE832A7EA8D} Photoshop Camera Raw (64 bit)_6.3_AdobeCameraRaw6.0All-x64 6.3.0.0 will be uninstalled now.
    WARNING: DW031: Payload:{2EBE92C3-F9D8-48B5-A32B-04FA5D1709FA} Adobe XMP Panels CS5 3.0.0.0 has been updated and has been selected for repair. The patch {42774483-D33C-46F7-8B20-FD0B1A3DAC25} Adobe XMP Panels CS5_3.1_AdobeXMPPanelsAll 3.1.0.0 will be uninstalled now.
    WARNING: DW031: Payload:{3F023875-4A52-4605-9DB6-A88D4A813E8D} Camera Profiles Installer 6.0.0.0 has been updated and has been selected for repair. The patch {A189C479-C7CD-4E08-8CCF-D999B68C0C71} Camera Profiles Installer_6.3_AdobeCameraRawProfile6.0All 6.3.0.0 will be uninstalled now.
    WARNING: DW031: Payload:{37AB3C65-E02C-4DCF-B0E0-4C2E253D8FA3} Photoshop Camera Raw 6.0.0.0 has been updated and has been selected for repair. The patch {FD58D99B-9927-4226-8E00-959A4F76BD89} Photoshop Camera Raw_6.3_AdobeCameraRaw6.0All 6.3.0.0 will be uninstalled now.
    ERROR: DW020: Found payload conflicts and errors:
    ERROR: DW020:  - Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 Core depends on Required Common Fonts Installation to be installed.
    ERROR: DW020:  - Adobe Illustrator CS5.1 depends on Required Common Fonts Installation to be installed.
    ERROR: DW020:  - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Base Files depends on Required Common Fonts Installation to be installed.
    ERROR: DW020:  - Adobe Fireworks CS5.1 depends on Required Common Fonts Installation to be installed.
    ERROR: DW020:  - Adobe Encore CS5.1 depends on Required Common Fonts Installation to be installed.
    FATAL: DW020: Conflicts were found in the selected payloads. Halting installation.

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