IMovie and auto scene detection

i would really really like to turn this option off.
in previous versions iMovie imported full clips - how do I get it to do this again with iMovie 9??
I looked in preferences and do not see the option to turn auto scene detection off.
I use iMovie to import and then i turn around and export to QuickTime Full Res for use in Final Cut Pro.
Thanks!
Enero

iMovie does not capture timecode...which is one of the most important things in video editing. If you edit and spend months on a project, and the drive containing your media dies...gone...then you are hosed. Because you cannot recapture the footage exactly the same way you did before...you'll have to re-edit from scratch.
If you have timecode, then when you went to recapture the footage, it would keep the same IN and OUT points and recapture the clips and your timeline would remain intact.
A better way? What is wrong with capturing with FCP? It is designed to do this you know...
A better way would be to get a capture card like the AJA Kona LHe and capture the footage as DVCPRO HD. MUCH easier to work with than HDV native, and not as lossy picture wise as AIC.
Yes...the AIC has significant quality loss. But..depends what you are editing.
Shane

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As a completely new user of Premier Elements 8 (running on a AMD phenom 3 core, 4g Ram, 500G Sata HD, Win Xp prof) I brought into Organise in the PE8 workspace clips imported in through Windows Movie Maker from my old DV video camera. I wanted to dectect the scene boundaries so I ran Auto-Analyse from the PE8 workspace. This took upto 4 hrs to analyse a 1hr clip which puzzled me as Movie maker only took about 20mins to detect the scenes on a much slower and lower spec laptop.
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P.S.
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1) I have scene detection turned on for capturing (using a XL2), but it doesn't seem to stop and split up the scenes.
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Scene detection normally works, so there must be something going on with you old camera.
I have a bunch of old analog 8MM tapes that I imported through a DV 8MM Digital camera. These all came in as 1 long clip.
It is true you can delete a frame and then use iMovie to split the events. However, I have found a much quicker way that is non-destructive and allows you to enter the date metadata.
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2) Drag your long clip into MPEG Streamclip. (If you don't know where it is, Right-click on the clip in the imovie event and select "Reveal in FInder".
3) Think if dividing your long clip into Events (everything you shot on a single day, for example) - and Scenes (clips) - an individual unit of footage within the Event.
4) Move the MPEG Streamclip playhead to the beginning of the 1st scene and press I for in point. Movie the Playhead to the last frame of the scene and press O for out point.
5) Now, FILE/EXPORT TO DV. Save it to a location you can easily find, like a folder on your desktop. Give it name in the following format: clip-yyyy-mm-dd hh;mm;ss.dv This will preserve the time metadata for later when you are editing. You may want to have your camera handy so you can easily see this data.
6) Repeat this process until you have all clips done. You should find that the playhead is still at the out point. You can simply type I and you have set the in point for a totally nondestructive capture of the next clip.
7) Finally, open iMovie and use FILE/IMPORT/MOVIES... and navigate to the place where you saved all these clips. iMovie will import and sort into Events (you may have to check "split days into new events". Let it generate thumbnails and you are done.

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I am importing previously edited footage for conversion. This still contains the timestamps.
After importing, iMovie automatically places each clip by time/date order in Events - which means it is jumbled up because it has previously been edited.
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I am new to Premiere Pro. I have used Pinnacle Studio, where scene detection involves the storing of the scene information in a separate file from the captured video, which is stored in a single AVI file. I run Premiere on Windows, so as I understand it, the options I have are to capture my video to a single file, or to use scene detection, which creates one file per detected scene.
On the one hand, having a single file per DV tape is convenient. On the other hand, such a file is rather large.
On the one hand, using the scene detection feature will result in a large number of files. On the other hand, any files for scenes that will never be used can be deleted, saving disk space.
What I'm looking for is how others prefer to capture video -- either in one file or in multiple scene files -- and why you prefer to do it that way.

Scene detect.
I discovered the hard way long ago that each of my camera ops needs to set date/time on their camcorder or else it doesn't work (why they never set it, who knows...).
Add to that, if the little battery dies in the camcorder, it'll toss out the date and all saved functions - including white balance - each time the camera is turned off. Little things you learn....but anyway....
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Adobe, why is this different on each platform?
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I've never seen such behavior with an app that is more AVI-centric, like PPro (on Windows, anyway) and Edius.
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How to disable scene detection in auto analyzer?

I thought I saw this setting once, but now can't find it.

You can't....
You can selectively disable the filters, the ones that each clip will be analyzed for. But scene detect seems to be a must-do before the analysis begins. Maybe for performance reasons, and for accuracy of the filters in each of the smaller clips.
Say if you have a 10 min clip. The first 2 mins has some shake in it. But the rest of the clip does not. If the scenes were not analyzed, the complete clip will not have a "shake" tag associated with it (Purely because 2 mins is too small a duration compared to 10 mins). Now if the scenes have been detected, the first two mins could be a part of a scene and that "shake" tag will be meaningful for this scene alone and not for the full clip. Hence the accuracy. Similarly for all tags and all scenes within the clip. To make meaningful analysis, a smaller clip is always more meaningful rather than a big clip.
I agree with them if this is the design criteria they used when designing the feature.
Hope I was clear.

Sharing from iMovie and getting a total blank

Hi. I sort of have two questions. One that's bothered me ever since first fiddling around with iMovie and iDVD is why when I open a DVD project after having closed it before does it always give me a new name. The first one is project.dvdproj. The next is project 1.dvdproj. The next is project 2.dvdproj. How can I avoid this?
At the same time, though, if I make some changes in iMovie and want to send it to iDVD, do I need a new name each time? Can I set something to where it just automatically replaces the one that came before?
Now the main question. This new version of iDVD is so much harder for me to intuit. (And the help menus don't always help a whole lot, either.) A couple weeks ago I made an iMovie that needed no chapters, so when I "shared" it to iDVD, I had no "Play Movie" button or anything. I finally figured out that I had to add the movie seperately. (How is that "sharing" then?!) Currently I have an iMovie which I'm ready to make a DVD of. I shared it to iDVD and it gave me the "Play Movie" button, as well as the "Scene Selections" button. Great! But then I had to stop working and I wasn't happy with some of the submenus, so I decided to just quit without saving anything because I wanted to start from scratch. Now, when I try to go from iMovie to iDVD and "share" it, I'm getting a total blank. No "Play Movie" button, no "Scene Selections" button. I really don't want to have to put them in myself. Can someone please, please help?! I'm more than frustrated by all this. I just want to get the thing done.
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Hello, yvonne,
Welcome to the discussions.
why when I open a DVD project after having closed it before does it always give me a new name. The first one is project.dvdproj. The next is project 1.dvdproj. The next is project 2.dvdproj. How can I avoid this?
iDVD will ask you to name a new project when you first create it. You need to be sure you 'save' it before closing it. Then, you should be able to open it by clicking on the project with the name you gave it. The DVD projects usually save to your 'documents' folder by default.
At the same time, though, if I make some changes in iMovie and want to send it to iDVD, do I need a new name each time? Can I set something to where it just automatically replaces the one that came before?
Once your movie is in a DVD project and then you make edits to the movie, you should receive a message when you open that iDVD project that iDVD has detected changes and it will ask if you want iDVD to update. You can then click yes/ok.
Currently I have an iMovie which I'm ready to make a DVD of. I shared it to iDVD and it gave me the "Play Movie" button, as well as the "Scene Selections" button. Great! But then I had to stop working and I wasn't happy with some of the submenus, so I decided to just quit without saving anything because I wanted to start from scratch. Now, when I try to go from iMovie to iDVD and "share" it, I'm getting a total blank. No "Play Movie" button, no "Scene Selections" button.
When you are finished with your current iMovie, make your chapter markers and then save and close your movie. Don't send it to iDVD from WITHIN iMovie.
Open iDVD and select your theme. Then, using the 'Media' tab, navigate to 'Movies' and select your movie and drag it into iDVD's main screen. Be sure not to drop it into a 'DROP ZONE.'
That may have been what you did when you did not get the title or scene selections. You do not need to create these yourself.
You might also have a look at these for some assistance:
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/iDVDTutorial.pdf
http://www.apple.com/ilife/tutorials/idvd/

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Automatic Scene detection

Hi,
I just purchased a Powerbook and I am a new Apple user (converted from PC). I used to use a Pinnacle program but now I am very excited to try the iMovieHD which comes with the laptop.
Unfortunately, when I tried to create my first movie, I have a problem already with importing my images. My images won't split into clips. The program only shows everything as 1 long clip. I checked my preferences to make sure that the automatic scene detection feature is on. I didn't set the time and date of my camcorder.
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Any tips are greatly appreciated. I already convinced my husband to convert from PC to MAC, hoping that for media stuff MAC is better and friendlier than PC. Please, show me that this is true.
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Amanda
Here is a link to an Apple Article about automatic scene detection:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61412
My clock was not set, but as soon as I turn the "internal clock" on, it shows the correct time and date right away.
I'm a bit confused now! If the clock is showing the correct date and time then it must be set and shouldn't be causing a problem with scene detection. With my camera (see details below), when I switch to record (standby) mode and select the menu item Clock Set, it shows the date and time, but there is no switch to turn the clock off or on.
It might be worth doing a short test recording with, say, 3 or 4 short scenes with a break of about 10 seconds or so between each scene. Import that to iMovie and see if the scenes are automatically detected (make sure the preference is checked first). If not, it might be worth deleting (trashing) iMovie's preference file - it's in your User (Home) folder under Library/Preferences and named com.apple.iMovie.plist. A new default preference file will be created by iMovie next time it is opened - you may then need to change some settings to your own preference, as required. Note that preference files in OS X can sometimes become corrupted - trashing them can often fix minor issues.
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No scene detection in premiere?

Someway that the editing program can automatically detect and cut scene changing moments in a single video clip.
Does this function exist in premiere, or does it exist only in "capturing material in premiere" and "speedgrade (and using xml files to get it to premiere)"?

iMovie can do this automatically. FCE cannot.
The DV Start/Stop Dectection as already mentioned is the only way to break up long clips into Sub-Clips. This is a manual operation. An hours tape (capture) only tkes a few minutes when done correctly. The detection is based on jumps in the Clock Time of the tape.
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